Post-Game Talk: ECQF GAME 7 - That's All Folks - It's Over - THANK YOU BERGIE

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No one is saying put an asterisk. But there is no shame in acknowledging that they had a very easy path and wouldn't have beaten Tampa and probably wouldn't have beaten Washington.



No. Same one. Top seed vs the lowest seed. Team didn't show up. Simple.

I don't know anything about easy paths. Every team that qualifies for the Stanley Cup playoffs is a quality team. This isn't the 1990s with 16 out of 21 teams making it.

I'm not sure how Top Seed vs. Low Seed has anything to do with match-ups. So TB lost because they had a better regular season than CBJ? When I think bad match-ups I'm thinking style of play, specials teams, weaknesses and strengths.

I didn't realize this before the series but Carolina was a bad match-up for Boston. Strong face-off team that negated on off Boston's usual strengths. Strong PK team against a team that relies on it's PP to gain momentum. A team strong up the middle vs. a team that wasn't.

Maybe the Bruins would of fared better against say Florida. Like 2019 and TB, we'll never know.
 

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Hate telling you this but if they stay the course and Bergy retires the 2023 playoffs aren't guaranteed.
Well with the eight teams that qualified in the east all getting over 100 points,it’s definitely not a given,have to expect Islanders to have a better season this year also .
 
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unfortunate but way too many players simply didn`t contribute on the scoresheet when needed. Beaten by, IMO, the better team, Carolina was the team I feared most in one of our polls here, our boys extended it further than I anticipated they would. Not gonna yakk away on Bergy, Biggest off season moves has to be addressing the absence of grit and physicality on this roster, they simply have 0 nasty left

Watching a beanpole like Kotkaniemi and Svechnikov throwing their weight around like they were Lindros, our boys? Sure at times, not nearly enough

I`ll get bashed here for this but rooting for Carolina to win, the kind of team that if wearing Spoked B jersey`s we`d all be pumped about, young, fun, physical, fast....
 

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Ok I will go on believing 2019 was a terrible wasted opportunity,you that it wasn’t,we’re both entitled to our opinions,and neither one of us will change the others opinions,so why continue to argue about it.Lol

Wasted opportunity? They wasted a chance to win a Game 7 at home where they had last change.

Had they gotten past Toronto only to lose to CBJ then yeah maybe it was a wasted opportunity. But that isn't what happened.
 

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Not really. Staal's job wasn't to score so looking at his points is silly. His job was to limit Bergeron. Just look at the home and away differences to see the results. Ignoring that obvious factor is............dumber.
Yep that is why depth comes in line... saying the contrary is simple dumb imo. 37 and 63 is the reason it got to game 7. 7 th game Bergeron and the first line has 1 goal +1 and missed a couple of opportunity. Stay on your agenda boys!
 
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unfortunate but way too many players simply didn`t contribute on the scoresheet when needed. Beaten by, IMO, the better team, Carolina was the team I feared most in one of our polls here, our boys extended it further than I anticipated they would. Not gonna yakk away on Bergy, Biggest off season moves has to be addressing the absence of grit and physicality on this roster, they simply have 0 nasty left

Watching a beanpole like Kotkaniemi and Svechnikov throwing their weight around like they were Lindros, our boys? Sure at times, not nearly enough

I`ll get bashed here for this but rooting for Carolina to win, the kind of team that if wearing Spoked B jersey`s we`d all be pumped about, young, fun, physical, fast....

just wanted to express some love for the word beanpole, lol
 
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It's the end folks. Say goodbye to the remnants of the 2011 cup core.

But those results make JJ money and that is why Sweeney will be here next year and until he starts to show a loss to JJ.

Anybody who thinks it still isn't all about the money explain why we moved picks for cap space that was never used? Two answers, Sweeney doing JJ's bidding or Sweeney was incompetent.
 

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It's total bullshit. All it means is that the Bruins had no other center.

Staal did his job better than Charlie Coyle, I'll give him that.
That is my point... Canes rolled 4 lines and 3 of them were good. Our third line wee on the ice for three Canes goal on breakdown and bad D coverage. First line was + 2 yesterday while no goals and major D breakdown D coverage from especially line 2 and 3.
 
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Each defensive pair was on for a goal against. But all 3 goals scored with Coyle's line on. Cassidy obviously tried to hide them, but nothing worked.

Hall, Pasta, Fred & Nosek were particularly terrible, Smith not too far ahead of them.

Was the best defensive play of the night McAvoy going behind the Canes net to cut off Debrusk's rush?

Good experience for Swayman.

Only goals from D for B's came from Forbort & Clifton.

Was Slavin the difference? Led Canes in scoring (2-6-8) and plus/minus (+10)
Swayman was the only positive. Imo
 
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Yep that is why depth comes in line... saying the contrary is simple dumb imo. 37 and 63 is the reason it got to game 7. 7 th game Bergeron and the first line has 1 goal +1 and missed a couple of opportunity. Stay on your agenda boys!
This loss was on the third line man we’re they brutal,what the hell happened to the 2019 playoffs Coyle I guess it must have been his line mates or something.
 

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Raanta is a very good goalie who has had problems staying healthy. There is a reason we had trouble scoring on him.
agree. Alot of lack of respect for the guy here, blessing agenda to say how Boston stinks losing to him. Some posters feeds themselves being negative!

This loss was on the third line man we’re they brutal,what the hell happened to the 2019 playoffs Coyle I guess it must have been his line mates or something.
It's a sport game, we win as a team and lose so. Maybe the Canes depth was simply better and we loss because of that. That said I am proud of the Bruins. They won 3 games against the Canes who alot here thought the Bruins would be an embarrassment.
 
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agree. Alot of lack of respect for the guy here, blessing agenda to say how Boston stinks losing to him. Some posters feeds themselves being negative!


It's a sport game, we win as a team and lose so. Maybe the Canes depth was simply better and we loss because of that. That said I am proud of the Bruins. They won 3 games against the Canes who alot here thought the Bruins would be an embarrassment.
He was lights out especially in the first periods in Carolina he never let the Bruins get the first goal ,I don’t know may have preferred Freddy in net he has a tendency to let in some bad goals at terrible times in a game.
 
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i'd like the team to flush out some of its players but suspect it'll be just more of the same - no changes with players or management.
I am not sure what is more hilarious.

The fact that Sweeney gave both Ullmark AND Foligno NMCs in first year of their respective deals, or in a win-or-go home Game 7 one was relegated to the bench in favor of a rookie and the other was a 4th line corpse that had second lowest ice time of all forwards by :16.

That’s about $9 million dollars completely and utterly wasted in your biggest game of the year.

Absolutely pathetic, Sweeney.
 

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As far as heartbreaking game 7 losses at least this doesn't come anywhere close to St Louis 2019. Or even Montreal 2014, Philly 2010, Carolina 2009. This one sucks but is on par with the 2008 where it just sucks
Ya, this one is far down my list... except if that was Bergeron's last game.
We knew 3 really good teams were going to lose in the first round of the east this year. It is what it is.

There was no drama, no bs, and the redding was pretty decent this series. These were two excellent teams leaving it out on the ice.
Difference was essentially Staal, Slavin and Pesce being able to shut them down at home.
 

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Here are the main needs on this team assuming Bergeron comes back.
1-A new GM
2-A new coach
3-A number 1 center
4-A number 1 or 2 RW with aggression and size who can score 20 goals and create space
5-A top 4 D who is not passive and will hit
6-A depth D with same qualities
7-A third line W with speed
8-A third line wing who is aggressive with size
9-A tough 4th liner. Keegan Kolesar, Nick Deslauriers or someone like them.
10-Depth in Providence that can step in when injuries occur and fill some of the rolls listed above. Either veteran AHL players or prospects

Besides this things look great....
...oh and as always a new owner but at this point I just hope I outlive Jacobs
 

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Here are the main needs on this team assuming Bergeron comes back.
1-A new GM
2-A new coach
3-A number 1 center
4-A number 1 or 2 RW with aggression and size who can score 20 goals and create space
5-A top 4 D who is not passive and will hit
6-A depth D with same qualities
7-A third line W with speed
8-A third line wing who is aggressive with size
9-A tough 4th liner. Keegan Kolesar, Nick Deslauriers or someone like them.
10-Depth in Providence that can step in when injuries occur and fill some of the rolls listed above. Either veteran AHL players or prospects

Besides this things look great....
...oh and as always a new owner but at this point I just hope I outlive Jacobs

Start at #6 and work your way down. Thats the more realistic approach to this offseason. Unless they can find a taker for Ullmark which would open up caproom. Number 1 and 3 will not happen. Especially number 1.
 

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So tired of everyone discounting the Bruins trip to the finals. The Lightning beat the Canadiens in the ****ing cup for cryin out loud...Where is their asterisk? The year before they won because the season got pushed back and Hedman (who would have missed the playoffs) was able to get healthy? Where is the asterisk? The Devils were a 6 seed and the Rangers a 5 seed with 96 points, where is the Kings asterisk?

Ridiculous.
I'm not putting an asterisk on it, but don't pretend the Bruins had a hard road to the Cup in 2019. The Bruins got all the breaks to make it to the Cup finals that year.
 

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They did show up, Carolina is just better and snuffed them out. I do agree they let down and sulked for a stretch it seemed.

As for not beating Tampa, they crushed the team that beat Tampa.

'19 was a choke job, on the players and coaches. The Blues wanted it more, played an old school cross the line style and the Bruins at times had no answer. The Bruins won two games on the road in convincing fashion when Blues players were out with suspensions. They were also out coached by a large margin.
Perfect summary.
 

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That is my point... Canes rolled 4 lines and 3 of them were good. Our third line wee on the ice for three Canes goal on breakdown and bad D coverage. First line was + 2 yesterday while no goals and major D breakdown D coverage from especially line 2 and 3.
I think ultimately, the Canes have a lineup that is a) capable of playing balls to the wall hockey and b) EVERY player buys in, if you aren`t willing to play that way, you don`t play

Now, before I start hammering all those Bruins who I think played well below standards I think it`s wise for me to wait to see what was ailing them but that said, even if all were 110% healthy, can`t speak the same about this lineup up and down as you can about the Canes
 
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I think ultimately, the Canes have a lineup that is a) capable of playing balls to the wall hockey and b) EVERY player buys in, if you aren`t willing to play that way, you don`t play

Now, before I start hammering all those Bruins who I think played well below standards I think it`s wise for me to wait to see what was ailing them but that said, even if all were 110% healthy, can`t speak the same about this lineup up and down as you can about the Canes
Agree. And Canes took advantage of Boston breakdowns. Before blaming a player for mistakes, I will give credit to the team executing. Canes team has more depth and that is where it was played, they are in your face team and Slavin was a monster on D. As per health, imo ALL teams have their issue on the matter.
 
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If Bergeron is gone, please clear house with management. I really do not want to watch Sweeney rebuild another team and not do I want to see Cassidy coach that team.

Cassidy and Sweeney’s tenure should be tied to however long Bergeron wants to stay around
If I were Bergeron I’d be telling who ever is in charge, my return would be contingent on Sweeney and Cassidy’s employment being terminated.
 

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