Post-Game Talk: ECQF 3 (Flyers lead series 2-1): FLYERS 1 vs. Canadiens 0, Sunday, Aug. 16, 2020
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JojoTheWhale
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He's Luis Scola. Good call.
You're overboard.
Striiker
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The Hakstol similarities are just too strong for me. We're at the point where like half the roster is either being used way too much or way too little. Thompson, Grant, Hagg, Niskanen, Provorov, Laughton, Ghost, Farabee, Frost, JVR...
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deadhead
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Yes I do, he started Farabee who right now isn't nearly as good as those two.
I saw Frost this season and Suzuki in the playoffs and there is no comparison, Suzuki > Frost.
Doesn't mean Farabee and Frost won't be solid top 6 forwards in a couple years, but not this year.
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By taking our team from being garbage to 1st in the East, and having won 5 of the last 6 games? I understand that hockey like yesterday isn't very entertaining, but so far AV has had success objectively speaking.
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It worked better at times in 19-20 than Thompson at 3C is working right now.
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You must have been just continuously creaming yourself when Hak implement the low high system that was all about point shots.
So many chances to see guys throwing pucks at the net from low danger areas, must have been amazing for you. I mean ANY can happen on a point shot, what more does a system or PP need?
Couts is great, I see no flaws in the lineup. The cup should be a lock.
Starat327
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Are You AV? Bunnaman is 6'1 210 and he isnt playing him over the 6' 1" 205 Nate Thompson, who has a clearly lacking skillset.
This isnt about Frost vs Suzukli to me, to be very clear. ITs about building an optimal roster, and Nate Thompson doesnt belong on it in any world.
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"Vigneault said postgame that he felt the fourth unit of Raffl, Nate Thompson and Tyler Pitlick was one of the Flyers' most effective lines in the victory."
Oh my lord. What is he smoking.
Oh my lord. What is he smoking.
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Braun has been on the ice for 4 ES GA in limited minutes. Provy-Niskanen are at zero despite getting the most minutes, and the hardest opponents.
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Well then it's a good thing we're only asking him to upgrade the garbage currently centering our 4th line, not be a top 6 center like Kotkaniemi and Suzuki.
You understand that the bar is set at Nate Thompson right? No one is expecting him to replace Couts or Hayes. Nate Thompson. I fully understand that Frost could get in there and be completely over matched and maybe even be just as bad as Thompson has been. I think there's a far higher likelihood that he is at least a slight upgrade. And please spare me the "It doesn't matter unless Giroux, Voracex, and Hayes play better."
And btw, this is coming from a fan who thinks AV is a good coach and has been a net positive on the team, despite some obviously boneheaded personnel decisions.
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Frost could be worse than Thompson, the way Farabee has been dominated.
I think AV is more interested in his bottom six preventing goals and playing physical than scoring goals in this series.
The real problem is getting the top six to play better and score some goals.
I think AV is more interested in his bottom six preventing goals and playing physical than scoring goals in this series.
The real problem is getting the top six to play better and score some goals.
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Well, a win is a win. It wasn't pretty. Teams like MTL, CBJ, NYI are hound mentality type teams that rely much more on structure & work ethic than skill. Playing teams like this is going to be frustrating & probably not the most fun games to watch, but a win’s a win at this point. Get what you can & keep moving forward. Lets gut out two more wins, get lindblom on the team, and move on.
NYI is pretty much an elevated and complete version of what MTL is trying to do. However, they do not have the goaltending that MTL does. They do have more star power and their structure they are a bigger team that plays very similar. That series will be a dog fight as well. I don't care about regular-season matchups and how we never won a game...I remember one of those games had Sanheim fall and turn the puck over twice and it resulted in a goal. We weren't the same flyers team then.
HART IS AMAZING. So happy that he got his first shut out.
NYI is pretty much an elevated and complete version of what MTL is trying to do. However, they do not have the goaltending that MTL does. They do have more star power and their structure they are a bigger team that plays very similar. That series will be a dog fight as well. I don't care about regular-season matchups and how we never won a game...I remember one of those games had Sanheim fall and turn the puck over twice and it resulted in a goal. We weren't the same flyers team then.
HART IS AMAZING. So happy that he got his first shut out.
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I don’t think Thompson or grant are huge problems. I do think grant and Thompson is a big problem.
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Frost could be better than Thompson, the way the Canadiens decided it was ok to replace Nate Thompson with a 23 year old Jake Evans.
I don't care what AV thinks, becuase what he thinks clearly isnt working. His team is getting dominated night in and night out.
The real problem isnt his topline who posted great numbers in last nights match. The real problem is that we can't solve Price, and our slower, less skilled bottom 6 can't keep up with the Candiens.
Wow, that was easy.
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Someone snapped a really good picture last night. I'd like to credit it, but I'm not sure who it was.
*Edit* It's from the NHL's gallery. The photographer is named Chase Agnello-Dean.
*Edit* It's from the NHL's gallery. The photographer is named Chase Agnello-Dean.
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Just go watch some Beabadoobee videos on youtube. You'll feel better.
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Someone snapped a really good picture last night. I'd like to credit it, but I'm not sure who it was.
The shadow looks like christ the redeemer. Not a coincidence.
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Someone snapped a really good picture last night. I'd like to credit it, but I'm not sure who it was.
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They didn't think it was OK, they traded Cousins and Thompson and Scandella because they thought they were out of the playoffs at that time.
Flyers weren't dominated last night, they lost the Corsi battle b/c of the Habs style of play (2nd in Corsi in regular season), but won the xGF battle, in other words, they weren't giving up as many rebounds and keeping the Habs on the perimeter.
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Starat327
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You watched a different game than I did last night, then. Because 3 inches another way, and the flyers lose that game 5-1. It wasnt as bad as game 2, but it wasnt pretty, either.
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Raffl was rusty, but with Raffl and Pitlick, Thompson can play ironically the way Bunnaman did on the winning streak, basically don't make mistakes and let people get behind you.
Grant at 3C is a bigger issue, but Grant has also been on the ice for one HDCA in 3 games.
Grant at 3C is a bigger issue, but Grant has also been on the ice for one HDCA in 3 games.
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