Series Talk: ECQ: Boston Bruins (2-0) Toronto Maple Leafs. Well. We can Win at Home. We Have to.

[Pookie]

yah well at least he defended mitch's honour.

You could do that with a roughing penalty

 

[JadedLeaf]

He's trying it because a key player decided to run at someone's head and won't be available.

That doesn't mean put the guy on the first line though does it?

 

[SprDaVE]

Can you explain the logic? Hands of stone. Doesn't engage physically anymore. Slow.....

It's to have someone that can create space by being a wrecking ball and also being a net presence. That's why Hyman has been there every game.

Marchand and Komarov have a history, so maybe he wants Komarov there for next game to perhaps get in Marchands head a little more. And while Komarov isn't a big hitter like he used to be, he's a lot more willing to engage physically than Hyman.

I don't completely agree with the logic but I understand it. It's not a bad thing to make minor lines changes sometimes.

 

[Daisy Jane]

Do you think it's something Babcock might consider doing for Game 3 in Toronto when he has last change, assuming Kadri is suspended for more than 1 game. Unlike when Matthews was injured we have never seen him centre a line without Nylander, although given how success they have been together why break up their line.

i think so.
honestly, I feel it depends on how that 2nd line works (and how Matty + Will perform in Game 2).
when we win (because I feel we will), if most of our chances happen from line 2, i'd argue you leave that alone, and maybe move AJ up? (or Kapanen) just make that line really speedy.

if Matty + Will struggle, i'd contemplate splitting them up (moving will to centre, Marner to matty's wing and adjust as necessary)

 

[realgoodleafs]

wtf?

gg

 

[ShaneFalco]

I think if they can play not to lose against Marchand's line you can hope your other lines pick up the slack. Harder to do with Kadri most likely out but I think that's where the reasoning is.

That's fair

 

[Pookie]

That doesn't mean put the guy on the first line though does it?

Well, yep. Agreed.

That said, that first line didn't do too much as constructed.

 

[Daisy Jane]

Kadri is suspended for a game if not two.

I'd be shocked if he wasn't.

if Kadri doesn't get suspended, he better be on his knees and thanking the baby Jesus.

 

[JadedLeaf]

yah well at least he defended mitch's honour.

At the cost of missing 1 or more playoff games. Not worth it at all when you consider if could have been done at any time and with a clean (or accidentally on purpose) hit. That was Kadri playing into the Bruins game and costing the team. If he's suspended than it's just helping things go exactly the way the Bruins want it. It's certainly not helping the Leafs team.

 

[ShaneFalco]

It's to have someone that can create space by being a wrecking ball and also being a net presence. That's why Hyman has been there every game.

Marchand and Komarov have a history, so maybe he wants Komarov there for next game to perhaps get in Marchands head a little more. And while Komarov isn't a big hitter like he used to be, he's a lot more willing to engage physically than Hyman.

I don't completely agree with the logic but I understand it. It's not a bad thing to make minor lines changes sometimes.

The old Komarov I could understand. Guess we'll see if he still has it in him.

 

[JadedLeaf]

Well, yep. Agreed.

That said, that first line didn't do too much as constructed.

No it didn't do that much but I'm surprised Hyman was the one pulled off that line instead of Nylander considering I thought Hyman played one of his best games in a Leafs uni last night.
I just don't quite understand the reasoning behind putting Komorov there. If this was the Komorov from 2 or 3 seasons ago sure but he's an offensive black hole and his defense isn't what it was a few years ago either.

 

[Daisy Jane]

You could do that with a roughing penalty

hey. i know that and you know that, but quite frankly, i'm over it.
my hope is that the Leafs can overcome this and draw even. they've done it before.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Kadri is suspended for a game if not two.

I'd be shocked if he wasn't.

We have seen the Department of Player Safety not suspend someone when it was obvious they should. Remember during the 2014 Winter Classic when Lupul cross checked Patrick Eaves and he left the game. Lupul was given a hearing by Shanahan when he was in charge and given that he was suspended 2 games the previous season everyone assumed another one was coming. However he was only fined $10,000 which was a complete surprise.

I'm not saying that's going to happen with Kadri, it's just an example where we thought a suspension was happening and it never did.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

Seemed like the Leafs were in the box the entire game... Some very questionable calls leading to goals and some very big non calls that also led to Bruin goals.

Need some consistent calls...

 

[ACC1224]

Not from Babcock, no.

Can't imagine any coach at this point of the season doing anything else.

 

[Willchel Marlynder]

Babcock going for the "it's so crazy it just might work approach".

 

[JadedLeaf]

The old Komarov I could understand. Guess we'll see if he still has it in him.

That's exactly my thoughts as well. When it comes to rookies Babs is a "what have you done for me lately" kind of coach but when it comes to the vets it seems like it's all about what they did years ago. I just don't understand how someone can be so self-stubborn and resistant to certain ideas.

I still take him as a coach probably 10 times out of 10 but it's not for no reason Red Wing fans had issues with his line choices when he was coaching there.

 

[Pookie]

hey. i know that and you know that, but quite frankly, i'm over it.
my hope is that the Leafs can overcome this and draw even. they've done it before.

We move on. Most likely without Kadri. Playoffs is about adjusting. Hopefully the 15 coaches, consultants, video crew and analytics folks can figure it out.

 

[Daisy Jane]

At the cost of missing 1 or more playoff games. Not worth it at all when you consider if could have been done at any time and with a clean (or accidentally on purpose) hit. That was Kadri playing into the Bruins game and costing the team. If he's suspended than it's just helping things go exactly the way the Bruins want it. It's certainly not helping the Leafs team.

i know. but apparently according to a whole whack of people, it's okay what Naz did and I really am not going to go down that path. i said what I said on the matter.

 

[The List Of Jericho]

At the cost of missing 1 or more playoff games. Not worth it at all when you consider if could have been done at any time and with a clean (or accidentally on purpose) hit. That was Kadri playing into the Bruins game and costing the team. If he's suspended than it's just helping things go exactly the way the Bruins want it. It's certainly not helping the Leafs team.

If Marner had been concussed, I think you would have been singing a different tune. You gotta send the Bruins a message that they can’t take liberties with our skill players. Was it done correctly? Nope and that’s the issue.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

We move on. Most likely without Kadri. Playoffs is about adjusting. Hopefully the 15 coaches, consultants, video crew and analytics folks can figure it out.

I'm surprised the video crew didn't catch the offside on the first goal. Everyone focusing on Bergeron not Marchand.

When I was the goal i was wondering how he got so far behind Polak...

 

[SprDaVE]

I'm surprised the video crew didn't catch the offside on the first goal. Everyone focusing on Bergeron not Marchand.

When I was the goal i was wondering how he got so far behind Polak...

 

[Pookie]

Sorry re-read that...

 

[JadedLeaf]

If Marner had been concussed, I think you would have been singing a different tune. You gotta send the Bruins a message that they can’t take liberties with our skill players. Was it done correctly? Nope and that’s the issue.

I wouldn't change my mind no. Kadri getting himself suspended wouldn't have prevented Marner from getting a concussion in that case. Like I said, I have zero issue with Kadri picking his spots and crushing the guy but not at the cost of making winning the series harder by missing one of our better players for at least a game.

I'm not saying bend over and let it happen, but don't end up costing the team by doing it. At 4-1 with the amount of time left a comeback wasn't likely. I don't really care that they scored on the pp, it's if Kadri is gone for a game or more that bothers me.

I mean come on though guys, some of us are sounding an awful lot like Bruins fans defending Marchand for his dumb hits. It was a bad decision resulting in a bad hit. There's no need to try and justify it, it was a shitty dirty hit and we've seen Kadri retaliate after losing his cool before.

 

[JadedLeaf]

i know. but apparently according to a whole whack of people, it's okay what Naz did and I really am not going to go down that path. i said what I said on the matter.

That's fine, I think it was a terrible hit. Nothing redeeming about it really.