Eastside Hockey Manager - Part X Patch 1.5 Edition! (Open Beta)

BKarchitect

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Nhlx has been a lot of fun so far! Tampa has managed to do something Ive never seen a cpu team do; theyve won 8 of 9 cups and made the finals the year they didnt win, im not sure if it actually matters but it seems like most good free agents prefer to sign with them. They’ll lose a solid player, like old stamkos, but then immediately replace him with a player almost as good in the off season. Its pretty crazy and lots of fun.

Other expansion teams have been struggling, but theyve honestly been making some good trades and solid draft picks. I was comparing all our early round picks the first 5-6 years since we were all bottom barrel teams and I cant even say confidently they I out drafted them, some of their picks have become really good players. In the drafts im noticing by year 2026 ish the talent falls off hard, not many great players but it could just be a couple weak drafts. Also pretty common for after the first round most of the ranked players to be playing in college, which has led to a lot of unranked players from different countries getting drafted. I personally love that, theres solid round picks coming from iceland, different african countries, numerous players from japan, and then of course smaller european nations.

I always try to build my teams with players from “unique” countries, so this has been so much fun so far. Really loving the Nhlx mode!

Tampa usually performs well for a few years into the game for sure, I've seen them win 4 or 5 Cups but 8 out of 9 is mind-boggling. A true modern dynasty - impressive that it is the CPU GM that is doing this too.

Regarding the amount of NCAA draft talent in future year, much of that may have to do with how much I boosted the NCAA - to match the Pivot rosters and to try and keep that league viable in the long-run. Perhaps it is working a touch too well lol.

In terms of the talent drought after say 2025/26 - that is mostly a result of the real prospects ending (and I believe the quasi-regens of retired stars not yet reaching maturation). I know the Pivot rosters use the Prospect Generator to bridge that gap to keep talent high. I am a bit loathe to add fake prospects - even that far out but I may consider it at some point. For now I am focusing on adding real prospects in that 06-08 birth year range.

Love to hear that the "rest of the world" is producing prospects - that was definitely one of the goals!
 

NathanB

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I don’t doubt I’m missing something, I’d be happy to Dropbox it

Ok right so bear with me now, theres quite a few things ive spotted that will cause issues.

Relating to the two error messages that you posted above, one was my fault. The number of team mismatch is because you also need to set "From prv stages use one stage" as True for stages 5 -8 in addition to the ones you have already done. That sorts that error message out

The fatal Cup error is because for stages 5-8 semi finals you have changed number of games to 4, this should be 2.

You also need to correct stage 5 to what i said above, you did this for 6-8 but stage 5 semi final now ahs 2 extra teams when it should be 3 and you also need to change extra team start index to 2 same as you have done in all other stages.

After you have done this it will draw correctly however as the playoffs progress you will likely encounter more errors around "unable to find fixture" This is because for your final you have a best of seven series, unlike you semi which is best of 5, however in the no. of legs column you still have 3 you need to change that to 4 for stages 5-8.

Ive tested it quite a few times now and if you do all of the above you should have no errors or issues. If you struggle with it i could just export the structure from the db that you could then import with all my changes and it should be good to go. Let me know how you get on
 

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Ok right so bear with me now, theres quite a few things ive spotted that will cause issues.

Relating to the two error messages that you posted above, one was my fault. The number of team mismatch is because you also need to set "From prv stages use one stage" as True for stages 5 -8 in addition to the ones you have already done. That sorts that error message out

The fatal Cup error is because for stages 5-8 semi finals you have changed number of games to 4, this should be 2.

You also need to correct stage 5 to what i said above, you did this for 6-8 but stage 5 semi final now ahs 2 extra teams when it should be 3 and you also need to change extra team start index to 2 same as you have done in all other stages.

After you have done this it will draw correctly however as the playoffs progress you will likely encounter more errors around "unable to find fixture" This is because for your final you have a best of seven series, unlike you semi which is best of 5, however in the no. of legs column you still have 3 you need to change that to 4 for stages 5-8.

Ive tested it quite a few times now and if you do all of the above you should have no errors or issues. If you struggle with it i could just export the structure from the db that you could then import with all my changes and it should be good to go. Let me know how you get on
Ah yes! Finally. Thanks for all your help. The playoff formats is something I don't have down yet.

I suppose 'No. of Games' is the number of series taking place in that round? I thought maybe 'No. of Legs' ends up defaulting to number of games to win? But in each of my semifinal rounds (including the championship), they're playing 5 games, and the final rounds they're playing 7

edit: i'm having some playoff series where the two teams are playing extra games even after the series should be over, like teams are 'supposed' to be playing to 3 wins but still playing to 4 even though the program thinks it's supposed to be a 5-game series.

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NathanB

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Sorry didn't even notice that!

Can be fixed by changing "Higher Seeded Team Home in First Leg" back to FALSE in the round rules for all stages and rounds where it is currently TRUE.

The game will automatically have the highest seed play at home first anyway in this type of playoff. Think that rules isnt really designed for best of series but rather two legged playoffs like we have in the UK
 
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GKJ

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Sorry didn't even notice that!

Can be fixed by changing "Higher Seeded Team Home in First Leg" back to FALSE in the round rules for all stages and rounds where it is currently TRUE.

The game will automatically have the highest seed play at home first anyway in this type of playoff. Think that rules isnt really designed for best of series but rather two legged playoffs like we have in the UK
So, by my count, that should make the only "Seeded Draw" as the only thing that's TRUE?

Looks like that works in that each series is 7 games, but the display is still showing what I suppose is an error (the semifinal rounds displaying that the winning team wins only 3 games when it's playing 7-game series), so I'm assuming there's something somewhere else that's doing this.

edit: doesn't appear that actually, I think it's actually playing the extra games as a replay, but I'm not sure what the trigger is. For instance, in one series it played Game 4 twice what what it thinks is a 5-game series (when it's supposed to be 7)
 
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NathanB

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Seeded draw yes and best of 5/7 as well depending on round

When I checked, your semi finals were only a best of 5 series though not 7 unless you have changed it. Only your finals were best of 7.

And if you have changed it you also need to update no. of legs to 4

If it doesn't work I can export the structure for you to import as it definitely displays accurately in the one I've amended
 

GKJ

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Seeded draw yes and best of 5/7 as well depending on round

When I checked, your semi finals were only a best of 5 series though not 7 unless you have changed it. Only your finals were best of 7.

And if you have changed it you also need to update no. of legs to 4

If it doesn't work I can export the structure for you to import as it definitely displays accurately in the one I've amended
It does say 4 under No. of Legs on mine. I've even tried manually changing some of the round rules to match the NHL. Yeah, I guess I need that so I can see what I have different (or just to be done with it lol)
 

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Just to demonstrate that there are no issues with my version, As i said its based on the semi finals being best of 5 and the finals being best of 7, if you want me to change the semi finals to best of 7 as well let me know, otherwise ive sent you a message with the link to the structure
 

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Just to demonstrate that there are no issues with my version, As i said its based on the semi finals being best of 5 and the finals being best of 7, if you want me to change the semi finals to best of 7 as well let me know, otherwise ive sent you a message with the link to the structure
I think I have this working? I had to try it a few times before I could either save or view the schedule dates as the editor would crash. I am trying to get all 7-game series but may settle for 5-7-7-7 because I can't have it go past April 30. I can't see what I was missing that it wasn't working right though, because I did have 4 under both No. of Legs
 

GKJ

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Changing the round rules looks like it fixed that manually
 

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I did a fantasy draft with the Sabres with the full intentions on tanking for a couple seasons.

Won the cup two years in a row (without using tactics!!) instead. :laugh: The team was picked to finish last, too. Never had this happen. Was kind of cool though.
 

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HF Boards Superstar v18!! Follow your created players career in an EHM sim

We are getting V18 Started! V17 is pretty much complete. Please feel free to join v18. HF Boards Superstar v18 (EHM 1 - NHL X database)

We are going to be using the NHL X database so it will be amazing to track the different career possibilities. Really excited for this version and the use of this database.
 

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HF Boards Superstar v18!! Follow your created players career in an EHM sim

We are getting V18 Started! V17 is pretty much complete. Please feel free to join v18. HF Boards Superstar v18 (EHM 1 - NHL X database)

We are going to be using the NHL X database so it will be amazing to track the different career possibilities. Really excited for this version and the use of this database.

Cool. See my post about the revised NHL regular season and new Cups (Canadian and American) featuring NHL teams. I'm trying to get that released in the next few days, so you may want to wait to officially start until then. Just more awards and trophies to win :)
 
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Cool. See my post about the revised NHL regular season and new Cups (Canadian and American) featuring NHL teams. I'm trying to get that released in the next few days, so you may want to wait to officially start until then. Just more awards and trophies to win :)

I'll take a look! I do like the current structure of the NHL, but it could be really cool to see the revised NHL regular season
 

GKJ

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Is there a reason the NHL schedule template would start disobeying me? I had the schedule start on September 28, and tried to move it to September 24, but the game is putting it on September 21 (Tuesday), and it's screwing up the rest of my schedule.
 

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Is there a reason the NHL schedule template would start disobeying me? I had the schedule start on September 28, and tried to move it to September 24, but the game is putting it on September 21 (Tuesday), and it's screwing up the rest of my schedule.

Under Competitions -> Schedule Templates make sure your starting day matches the day of the week of the first day of your schedule template and you also have the accurate day of week in for the start/stop of the stages using the template
 

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Under Competitions -> Schedule Templates make sure your starting day matches the day of the week of the first day of your schedule template and you also have the accurate day of week in for the start/stop of the stages using the template
Ah, thank god it was something simple and should've noticed
 

abo9

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Loving the new NHLX setup - I'll probably release v1.3 with this new NHL configuration this weekend.

- You'll have two new high-level Cup competitions to play - the NHL Canadian Championship and the NHL American Championship. I highly recommend turning them on if you play the NHL, but you don't have to.
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- The NHL regular season is now a 70 game slate. Balanced schedule (home and home versus every team). Conferences and divisions are gone. Standings are a single list. Top 20 make the playoffs but seeds 13-20 play a "play-in" round. So you really want to get into the top 12 to guarantee a spot in the "real" playoffs. The 4 winners of the play-in series join the top 12 seeds to make-up the 16 team playoff field.
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- The American Championship features all 28 USA clubs, with a regional 4-group initial round of home-and-home. The winner of each region advances to the playoffs.
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- The Canadian Championship has a single group stage of all 8 Canadian clubs playing home-and-home against each opponent. The top four in the group advance to the Cup stage and compete for the chapmionship.
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- I gotta say I just love having an extra high-level competition to play for as an NHL GM. In this sim, the Blackhawks finished 18th in the NHL standings but were extra feisty in the American Championship, winning the Central (beating the NHL Stanley Cup Champion Avs among others) while making it to the semi's in the competition. In Canada, the Leafs once again fell short of making it to the Stanley Cup but won the Canadian Championship - so it helps ease the pain of another playoff failure. Lots of fun new scenarios to play out.

- Also full-awards both individual and team for each of the new comps, which gives NHL players more chances to fill their history with cool new achievements.
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Right now the Cups are named for respective legends for each country with long resumes of winning trophies and longevity - who also don't already have NHL awards named after them:
- The Chris Chelios Cup for the American Championship
- The Jean Béliveau Cup for the Canadian Championship

Although I am open to ideas for the naming of the Cups!

Looks very cool! I tend to get sucked in EHM leading to hige wastes of time ... so I walked away for a bit

But your new DB seems too fun to pass lol
 

abo9

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Let's GOOOOOO! I'm wanting to explore the different leagues and championships available, so enabling "sacking human GM" for the full career adventure!

I know how long it can be to start "at the bottom". So, starting with the lowest Reputation on a NHL expansion team that's un-filled. I wanted to pick the Nordiques at first, but how can someone pass the "Rosebuds"?

I doubt I can win them a Cup before being fired, but maybe if I brush up on my tactics (usually let the coach run them), I could do the un-thinkable.

Edit: I pressed "Start" and immediately the fans are disapointed. Yikes, good luck to me :laugh:


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NHLX v1.3 Flash Update
- Visit the website for downloads here. Be sure to grab the Logo Pack Expansion to keep the graphics coordinated with the database updates.
Home/Downloads | Nhlx

Did a flash update to v1.3, includes the Avalanche trades, singings, transactions and some other tweaks and massages. Probably not worth starting a new game if you've already started a career in the original v1.3 (that includes the new NHL alignment and in-season Cups) but I'll periodically release flash updates when major NHL moves happen as we head towards the deadline.

- See change full log and feel free to comment on the NHLX thread at TBL:
NHLX - An EHM Database - EHM The Blue Line
 

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