Value of: Dylan Larkin

[Hockey 4 Life]

Claims? Are the Leafs not a top defensive team? Can’t you open NHL.com? Do you need help?

You provide nothing but fan boy wishes for a player who has proven nothing. He’s going to be on the edge of the press box with a pick up of a defensman at the deadline. Compared to the guy who is actually successfully doing it in the top pair.

Way too many Leafs fans are too proud to spout their ignorance of ”their team”.

You've also proven nothing lol. Your foolish takes have not been backed up by any Stat or evidence. Your a hypocrite and an ignorant one at that. I've missed 5 Leaf games in 3 years so I'm well aware of what the team I cheer for is and what it is not. Holls value comes predominantly on the pk but he is solid 5 vs 5. He is also prone to a few medium to large mistakes a game. He's a borderline 4 or 5 who is average 5 vs 5 but is excellent on the pk.

 

[TS Quint]

You've also proven nothing lol. Your foolish takes have not been backed up by any Stat or evidence. Your a hypocrite and an ignorant one at that. I've missed 5 Leaf games in 3 years so I'm well aware of what the team I cheer for is and what it is not. Holls value comes predominantly on the pk but he is solid 5 vs 5. He is also prone to a few medium to large mistakes a game. He's a borderline 4 or 5 who is average 5 vs 5 but is excellent on the pk.

How am I a hypocrite? LMAO!

You watch hockey. This clearly makes you a genius. You have proven with every post you value your feelings over facts. Hopes and prayers. Keep posting about the Leafs. Your pride in talking about a topic you have zero knowledge of is entertaining. Tell me more how the bottom pair defenseman on the team is so much better than the top pair.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

How am I a hypocrite? LMAO!

You watch hockey. This clearly makes you a genius. You have proven with every post you value your feelings over facts. Hopes and prayers. Keep posting about the Leafs. Your pride in talking about a topic you have zero knowledge of is entertaining. Tell me more how the bottom pair defenseman on the team is so much better than the top pair.

The fact that you refer to Holl as the top pair RD tells me all I need to know about your analysis lol. Also all you've done is expressed your opinion and feelings regarding this topic. I don't think you really understand what hypocrite means and if you do then your an even bigger hypocrite then I initially claimed you were.

 

[norrisnick]

Leafies... I get this has spiraled out of the original context, but if Larkin is traded, he's not getting traded for a D unless he's on the short list of elite sub-25yos.

 

[StewieP19]

You've also proven nothing lol. Your foolish takes have not been backed up by any Stat or evidence. Your a hypocrite and an ignorant one at that. I've missed 5 Leaf games in 3 years so I'm well aware of what the team I cheer for is and what it is not. Holls value comes predominantly on the pk but he is solid 5 vs 5. He is also prone to a few medium to large mistakes a game. He's a borderline 4 or 5 who is average 5 vs 5 but is excellent on the pk.

Defend in season and in playoff are different
In season Leafs are looking great like last year.
Last year they finish 8th in PK% in the league
This year the are 16th but clost to be in the top 10 this is pretty good
But in playoff the big problem they will facing another time the Tampa Bay Lightning.
They need to find a way to shutdown this team and score more goal than last year.
I really think the winner of this series will have a lot of chance to be stanley cup final team.
Toronto management need to find players can shutdown Tampa bay.

I really think Colorado need help. They need to find someone like Larkin who can fit very well in this lineup

 

[WingsToPick4th]

Stevie can accelerate the Rebuild DRASTICALLY by trading Larkin for a HAUL as a rental (late 1st + C prospect) and then having a gentlemen agreement to sign him as a UFA in the offseason. Larkin gets playoff experience + larkins original team in which he is the captain can rebuild quicker. win win for everyone.

Which playoff team needs a 2C and has solid C prospects? Colorado? Minnesota? LA kings? Hurricanes?

 

[norrisnick]

Stevie can accelerate the Rebuild DRASTICALLY by trading Larkin for a HAUL as a rental (late 1st + C prospect) and then having a gentlemen agreement to sign him as a UFA in the offseason. Larkin gets playoff experience + larkins original team in which he is the captain can rebuild quicker. win win for everyone.

Which playoff team needs a 2C and has solid C prospects? Colorado? Minnesota? LA kings? Hurricanes?

You think taking away Larkin's 8th year makes him easier to re-sign?

 

[WingsToPick4th]

You think taking away Larkin's 8th year makes him easier to re-sign?

theres risk here, but honestly id rather get the assets and then pay him $9 for 7 years, a 34 year old larkin wont be worth 8.5 million

 

[Bfan14]

no one else on the wings is worth moving knies for at the moment. if you want knies you have to give to get.

larkin for the 1st, 3rd and a prospect like niemela might be the top offer. with retention obviously.

Knies is now worth more than Kasper, Raymond and Edvisson?

Those three are vastly better players/prospects as of now

larkin is just an overhyped high-end 2c. 1st round pick is the main piece.

He’s scored awfully similar to Nylander the last two years while being better defensively and having very little help.

Would you trade Nylander for a late 1st?

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Knies is now worth more than Kasper, Raymond and Edvisson?

Those three are vastly better players/prospects as of now

I think he meant availible players. Why would the wings entertain moving any of those prospects. I think you were just looking for a reason to be outraged lol.

 

[Bfan14]

I think he meant availible players. Why would the wings entertain moving any of those prospects. I think you were just looking for a reason to be outraged lol.

At no point did he say available players. He said the only one worth moving Knies for is Seider. And Seider sure as hell wouldn’t be available

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

At no point did he say available players. He said the only one worth moving Knies for is Seider. And Seider sure as hell wouldn’t be available

Logically think to yourself how many higher end prospect swaps happen, not many at all. He was saying he doesn't want to give up knies for Larkin presumably because he is a rental so the only other player who isn't a prospect is seider who knies would obviously be available for plus a heck of a lot more. You wanted to get upset and found a reason.

 

[Bfan14]

Logically think to yourself how many higher end prospect swaps happen, not many at all. He was saying he doesn't want to give up knies for Larkin presumably because he is a rental so the only other player who isn't a prospect is seider who knies would obviously be available for plus a heck of a lot more. You wanted to get upset and found a reason.

Raymond is a prospect now?

 

[Namikaze Minato]

He's talking with a leafs fan that is saying Knies is more valuable than Seider, and you're calling HIM delusional??

EDIT: I guess I misread where he said no one ELSE on the wings is worth Knies. Still, holy shit.

The other guy also said the majority of leafs prospects would be at the bottom of the red wings pool.

It's pretty delusional to come out of a draft and pretend your 6th and 7th round picks are better than a teams 3rd and 4th round picks, every year.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Raymond is a prospect now?

If thats what you want to get upset about, sure Raymond is a prospect now. You have MY permission to be as upset as you want!

 

[Bfan14]

If thats what you want to get upset about, sure Raymond is a prospect now. You have MY permission to be as upset as you want!

What are you going on about? The guy clearly stated only Seider is worth Knies. I pointed out that’s laughable.

*enter every leaf fan in his defense*

 

[Namikaze Minato]

What are you going on about? The guy clearly stated only Seider is worth Knies. I pointed out that’s laughable.

*enter every leaf fan in his defense*

I quoted you being upset about Raymond, thats what i was responding to.

I get youre very upset and that leafs fans are real big meanies to your favourite players.

 

[Bfan14]

I quoted you being upset about Raymond, thats what i was responding to.

I get youre very upset and that leafs fans are real big meanies to your favourite players.

I am not a red wings fan.

I am laughing at a Leafs fan saying Knies > Raymond, which is a beyond ridiculous statement

 

[Namikaze Minato]

I am not a red wings fan.

I am laughing at a Leafs fan saying Knies > Raymond, which is a beyond ridiculous statement

I can see you tunnel visioning on your interpretation of an argument you saw and taking something as literal as possible so you can feign outrage and pretend youre a hero policing leafs fans from being such big meanies.

 

[dirtydanglez]

Knies is now worth more than Kasper, Raymond and Edvisson?

Those three are vastly better players/prospects as of now


He’s scored awfully similar to Nylander the last two years while being better defensively and having very little help.

Would you trade Nylander for a late 1st?

you dont understand the point of my 1st post. knies isnt worth moving for a player of his calibre. it's not that hes worth more.


leafs are a playoff team not a seller. detroit is a seller.

 

[Bfan14]

you dont understand the point of my 1st post. knies isnt worth moving for a player of his calibre. it's not that hes worth more.


leafs are a playoff team not a seller. detroit is a seller.

Knies isn’t worth moving for a defensively sound 70+pt player in Larkin or Raymond?

Oh man are you guys ever going to be disappointed in him. Saw these same comments from friends about Robertson before he entered the league too.

I can see you tunnel visioning on your interpretation of an argument you saw and taking something as literal as possible so you can feign outrage and pretend youre a hero policing leafs fans from being such big meanies.

He said Knies is only worth Seider.

Raymond came into the league the same time as Seider.

Please explain to me how he’s not saying Knies > Raymond?

 

[ThankGord]

Stevie can accelerate the Rebuild DRASTICALLY by trading Larkin for a HAUL as a rental (late 1st + C prospect) and then having a gentlemen agreement to sign him as a UFA in the offseason. Larkin gets playoff experience + larkins original team in which he is the captain can rebuild quicker. win win for everyone.

Which playoff team needs a 2C and has solid C prospects? Colorado? Minnesota? LA kings? Hurricanes?

I wouldn’t call a pick around 30 and a C prospect a haul or trade Larkin for it.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

He said Knies is only worth Seider.

No he didnt, he said

Logically think to yourself how many higher end prospect swaps happen, not many at all. He was saying he doesn't want to give up knies for Larkin presumably because he is a rental so the only other player who isn't a prospect is seider who knies would obviously be available for plus a heck of a lot more. You wanted to get upset and found a reason.

Then you whined about Raymond being "a prospect now?" in your faux outrage.

 

[dirtydanglez]

Knies isn’t worth moving for a defensively sound 70+pt player in Larkin or Raymond?

Oh man are you guys ever going to be disappointed in him. Saw these same comments from friends about Robertson before he entered the league too.


He said Knies is only worth Seider.

Raymond came into the league the same time as Seider.

Please explain to me how he’s not saying Knies > Raymond?

raymond sure but a winger isn't a need for the leafs. it's the last thing they need. why would the leafs use their best trade chips on a winger, where is the logic?

 

[Canuck86]

Are Detroit fans okay paying Larkin long term at or north 9m cap hit? Larkin has a better track record of offensive production compared to Horvat and is around 18 months younger so I wouldn't be surprised to see him get up to 1m or so more than Bo did long term.

Seems similar to the Stamkos and Yzerman contract talks back in the day. Everyone thought Stamkos would go to the Laffs, yet he signed and signed for less than what people thought in regards to his current contract. So i could see Yzerman having a similar stance with Larkin, a local kid who sounds like he wants to be a life long Red Wing