Friedman: Dylan Larkin requests trade, Part II

[Hen Kolland]

I'm sure this will get crucified, but here's my attempt at a three team deal.

STL: Mav Bourque, DAL 2026 2nd
DET: Jason Robertsson(extension in place), Lian Bichsel
DAL: Dylan Larkin, Pius Suter(50% retained)

Flame away.....

St Louis just showing up to try to coerce both Detroit and Dallas into an undesired, unnecessary threesome?

 

[SuperScript29]

I have no idea what Yzerman has as priorities. But I could not care less about success this season versus chasing a Cup(s) long term. So while I'm fine with also landing a Peterka or McTavish or whomever to help, for me it's all about a path to being a high end roster down the road.

It's not about the success of this season, but:

- Young good roster player--> Closest thing to a grantee of what you'll get on the ice, and the player would be young enough to be part of the the current core and into the future.
- High end prospect --> This is the project, may be something, or may be nothing.
- 1st Round Pick --> Wile card, especially if the pick is top-10 protected.

Minnesota doesn't have the assets, I dont see how bringing in a 3rd team helps them. Unless that team overvalues some of their roster players.

Yup, I don't see why Minnesota is involved at all, the only way I see it happening is if a 3rd team really values Wallstedt and is willing to overpay something that Detroit is looking for.

Seriously, unless players like Boldy or Faber are involved in the play, the Wild have nothing to be part of anything Larkin related.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

I'm sure this will get crucified, but here's my attempt at a three team deal.

STL: Mav Bourque, DAL 2026 2nd
DET: Jason Robertsson(extension in place), Lian Bichsel
DAL: Dylan Larkin, Pius Suter(50% retained)

Flame away.....

Why is Dallas giving an extended Robertson, Bischel, Bourque, and a 2nd for Larkin lol.

 

[jkutswings]

There won't be a bidding war. Larkin will likely get a surprisingly bad return.

Close the thread! Our resident expert has the answer!

We're all just guessing here. I doubt many expected Byram to land 4OA, so let's see what actually happens and go from there.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

There won't be a bidding war. Larkin will likely get a surprisingly bad return.

Hell yeah man because the market for a low end 1C/elite 2C is non-existent.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

So true..the Byram trade reminds me of the Gobert to Minnesota trade and how people thought that was the new normal but that was just a ridiculous overpayment

I literally wouldn't even know this reference if not for the guy wiping his germs all over the microphones right before COVID broke out lmao.

 

[Hockey Dad]

I'm sure this will get crucified, but here's my attempt at a three team deal.

STL: Mav Bourque, DAL 2026 2nd
DET: Jason Robertsson(extension in place), Lian Bichsel
DAL: Dylan Larkin, Pius Suter(50% retained)

Flame away.....

What did dallas do to you? You are bending them over.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

What did dallas do to you? You are bending them over.

You're gonna add Heiskanen and like it.

 

[SuperScript29]

Why is Dallas giving an extended Robertson, Bischel, Bourque, and a 2nd for Larkin lol.

Nothing to do with the proposal, but Dallas' current cap space is like $10 million. If Robertson is asking for something beyond that it might be tough to fit him in. I still think they can make it work even if asks for more than the cap space, but it's going to require trimming into the current lineup (Cutting Seguin loose seems like the obvious choice here to make it work).

 

[HaNotsri]

Hell yeah man because the market for a low end 1C/elite 2C is non-existent.

It is since Larkin decides who can bid. Yzerman should just tell him to suck it up and take away his captaincy.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

It is since Larkin decides who can bid. Yzerman should just tell him to suck it up and take away his captaincy.

And Yzerman can decide how many more years Larkin wants to stay in an organization that he doesn't want to play for.

 

[SuperScript29]

It is since Larkin decides who can bid. Yzerman should just tell him to suck it up and take away his captaincy.

Well it's going to come down to that. People should not be surprised to see Larkin part of the Wings without his C this upcoming season.

 

[izlez]

I'm sure this will get crucified, but here's my attempt at a three team deal.

STL: Mav Bourque, DAL 2026 2nd
DET: Jason Robertsson(extension in place), Lian Bichsel
DAL: Dylan Larkin, Pius Suter(50% retained)

Flame away.....

This really just seems like 2 separate trades, not a 3 team trade. And neither trade is good for Dallas

 

[HaNotsri]

Well it's going to come down to that. People should not be surprised to see Larkin part of the Wings without his C this upcoming season.

People change their minds. The other guys on the team will expect Larkin to perform.
The Buffalo gms being doormats did not help with the exodus. They bent over immediately for ROR and that showed Eichel the way.
I'd ask Larkin for at least 10 possible teams if he really wants to be traded.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

People change their minds. The other guys on the team will expect Larkin to perform.
The Buffalo gms being doormats did not help with the exodus. They bent over immediately for ROR and that showed Eichel the way.
I'd ask Larkin for at least 10 possible teams if he really wants to be traded.

That'd be the smart thing to do. You can either give me a 10 team list or you can just be miserable here for two more years and then you have to give me a 10 team list.

 

[cvaicunas]

I'm sure this will get crucified, but here's my attempt at a three team deal.

STL: Mav Bourque, DAL 2026 2nd
DET: Jason Robertsson(extension in place), Lian Bichsel
DAL: Dylan Larkin, Pius Suter(50% retained)

Flame away.....

As a wings fan I'd probably be happy. But that means the trade is imbalanced. Not sure what STL gets out of this.

 

[Petes2424]

We always hear a lot of chatter right before a big player (we know is going to be traded) is moved, and it’s usually about the team who ends up striking out, as leaks start happening to try getting just a little more from another team. Like Quinn to Detroit.

Dallas seems to be all the noise right now. Everything from Robo being involved, which will prompt a Debrincat trade, to Dallas having to finish up a contract or trading Robo…. then the Larkin deal will be finalized, to it being a 3 team deal with a Chicago or New Jersey.

I just can’t see Yzerman paying a winger $14-$15 million. $12 might even see him losing hair, and he’s definitely NOT gonna pay Debrincat on top of another winger like Robo. Not when he knows as much as anyone, you win in the NHL “up the middle.” Tying up $33-$35 million on 3 wingers, makes it hard to pay legit Cs. Especially when you have Seider and Edvinsson to pay.

So whether Dallas is that bridesmaid we always hear about right before a trade, or they’re about to get the Larkin trade done, more and more people in the sport, think there’s a good chance a Larkin trade gets done within days, if not today… and Dallas seems to be the leader at this point. Everything seems to hinge on what happens with Robo.

 

[Ezekial]

As a wings fan I'd probably be happy. But that means the trade is imbalanced. Not sure what STL gets out of this.

Mav Borque and a second for Pius Suter at 50%.

You know, a f***ing crazy return.

 

[DatDude44]

As a wings fan I'd probably be happy. But that means the trade is imbalanced. Not sure what STL gets out of this.

Mav bourque is younger fits the timeline and the 2nd is just value.... we really don't need Suter.....With holloway, snuggerud, neighbours, Stenberg, Berggren, Drouin, Buchnevich, Toropchneko, Walker and mcmichael(if he's on the wing) + kaskimaki, peterson and others in the A that can fill bottom 6 roles. Suters a UFA next season anyway.

What did dallas do to you? You are bending them over.

If Robertson isn't signing with them, idk how i'm bending them over here. You're getting dylan larkin and a swiss army knife forward at 2mill who can score 20 goals and provide very good defensive play. Bourque doesn't really fit in Dallas and ya'll are in win now mode. Suter is much more valuable to a team trying to make a cup run than bourque.

If bichsel is out of the deal then is it better? Would DET do that?

Why is Dallas giving an extended Robertson, Bischel, Bourque, and a 2nd for Larkin lol.

Suter at 2mill has value as well..... if I take out bichsel would it work? Clearly Robertson isn't resigning in Dallas soo....

 

[MNRube]

Yup, I don't see why Minnesota is involved at all, the only way I see it happening is if a 3rd team really values Wallstedt and is willing to overpay something that Detroit is looking for.

Seriously, unless players like Boldy or Faber are involved in the play, the Wild have nothing to be part of anything Larkin related.

They are involved because that is where Larkin wants to land. Worst kept secret in hockey. Yzerman can play hardball if he wants but that won't be easy when the regular season approaches and the Wings are looking at another season of being irrelevant.

 

[SirloinUB]

We always hear a lot of chatter right before a big player (we know is going to be traded) is moved, and it’s usually about the team who ends up striking out, as leaks start happening to try getting just a little more from another team. Like Quinn to Detroit.

Dallas seems to be all the noise right now. Everything from Robo being involved, which will prompt a Debrincat trade, to Dallas having to finish up a contract or trading Robo…. then the Larkin deal will be finalized, to it being a 3 team deal with a Chicago or New Jersey.

I just can’t see Yzerman paying a winger $14-$15 million. $12 might even see him losing hair, and he’s definitely NOT gonna pay Debrincat on top of another winger like Robo. Not when he knows as much as anyone, you win in the NHL “up the middle.” Tying up $33-$35 million on 3 wingers, makes it hard to pay legit Cs. Especially when you have Seider and Edvinsson to pay.

So whether Dallas is that bridesmaid we always hear about right before a trade, or they’re about to get the Larkin trade done, more and more people in the sport, think there’s a good chance a Larkin trade gets done within days, if not today… and Dallas seems to be the leader at this point. Everything seems to hinge on what happens with Robo.

What legit Cs will Detroit have an opportunity to pay in the coming years?

Detroit has no business turning their nose up to Robertson at 15M. Acquire some god damn talent and pay them what it takes.

 

[SirloinUB]

They are involved because that is where Larkin wants to land. Worst kept secret in hockey. Yzerman can play hardball if he wants but that won't be easy when the regular season approaches and the Wings are looking at another season of being irrelevant.

Detroit is already going to be irrelevant this season. Might as well maximize the return on the Larkin trade.

 

[izlez]

Pius Suter was signed as a UFA in 2020, 2021, 2023, & 2025
Teams are not giving up anything of value for him. Depending how the Larkin thing plays out and how we may be desperate for a center, I MIGHT consider trading a 4th for him to increase the competition between Kasper/Compher/Danielson/Finnie/Lombardi to find some centers

 

[DatDude44]

Pius Suter was signed as a UFA in 2020, 2021, 2023, & 2025
Teams are not giving up anything of value for him. Depending how the Larkin thing plays out and how we may be desperate for a center, I MIGHT consider trading a 4th for him to increase the competition between Kasper/Compher/Danielson/Finnie/Lombardi to find some centers

What? He'd be going to Dallas...... as a depth piece with 50% retention in my proposal. a 2mill player who can play C or W can chip in 20 goals and is a great PK'er/ defensive fwd has value to a team like dallas who's in a cap crunch and trying to win a cup. Mav bourque doesn't seem to be part of their plans that 2nd is super late, if the 2nd is the deal breaker then take it out lmao

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Suter at 2mill has value as well..... if I take out bichsel would it work? Clearly Robertson isn't resigning in Dallas soo....

I mean yeah you'd have to. Robertson is the better player, albeit at the less important position.

Also not 100% sure Robertson isn't staying, but it certainly is trending toward a no.