Rumor: Ducks trying to unload a contract in order to re-sign Rakell/Lindholm

[BatVader]

Anaheim wont need another D back so no need to move Beaulieu. And i doubt if Andrighetto is much of an upgrade on their top 6 not sure if Montreal is good trading partners here.

The point of the trade is to save money to sign Lindholm and Rakell, not upgrade their top 6.
They need to move salary out, while getting good value with out bringing salary back in.
This where this thread will go off the tracks.
Ducks fans will want proven players as return, but that's not why this trade will happen.
Ducks best option is to move out cap for picks and under 1 million salary prospects.

I agree that Beaulieu wouldn't be needed, but Andrighetto/Sherbak/Hudon would definitely be of interest to Anaheim. Add to that a pick or 2 and it's done.
Beaulieu would be moved after Fowler was brought in, to recoup some picks used to acquire fowler.
Best option would be to move Emelin, as that's comparable cap to Fowler, but no idea of the market for him.

 

[VoidCreature]

The point of the trade is to save money to sign Lindholm and Rakell, not upgrade their top 6.
They need to move salary out, while getting good value with out bringing salary back in.
This where this thread will go off the tracks.
Ducks fans will want proven players as return, but that's not why this trade will happen.
Ducks best option is to move out cap for picks and under 1 million salary prospects.

I agree that Beaulieu wouldn't be needed, but Andrighetto/Sherbak/Hudon would definitely be of interest to Anaheim. Add to that a pick or 2 and it's done.
Beaulieu would be moved after Fowler was brought in, to recoup some picks used to acquire fowler.
Best option would be to move Emelin, as that's comparable cap to Fowler, but no idea of the market for him.

This guy gets it.

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

I would eat crow, but now I'm not entirely sure how I'd do that. I used to identify them by their colour.

Are you gonna tell me that not all crows are black?

Others pointed out the albino crows, but they can come in brown too

 

[4thline]

Hunwick for Stoner+Pettersson+2017 2nd

or playing for the big fish:
JVR@50%
for Fowler+

2 birds with one stone for the ducks, saves 1.9m plus the topline winger. But that + can't be insignificant for 4.2 million dollars over 2 years

 

[go4hockey]

Praying for Fowler for Beaulieu + Andrighetto/Hudon

Well keep praying then cause I don't see how Ana accepts any defenseman coming back in a Fowler deal. They are loaded on the back end and deep in their system.

 

[StuckOutHere]

Well, thank goodness they signed Kesler.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

The point of the trade is to save money to sign Lindholm and Rakell, not upgrade their top 6.
They need to move salary out, while getting good value with out bringing salary back in.
This where this thread will go off the tracks.
Ducks fans will want proven players as return, but that's not why this trade will happen.
Ducks best option is to move out cap for picks and under 1 million salary prospects.

I agree that Beaulieu wouldn't be needed, but Andrighetto/Sherbak/Hudon would definitely be of interest to Anaheim. Add to that a pick or 2 and it's done.
Beaulieu would be moved after Fowler was brought in, to recoup some picks used to acquire fowler.
Best option would be to move Emelin, as that's comparable cap to Fowler, but no idea of the market for him.

Point well taken, We shall see what comes of this before to long here.

 

[taylorjonl]

Point well taken, We shall see what comes of this before to long here.

Hopefully before long, tired of waiting!

 

[Crosbysux]

The point of the trade is to save money to sign Lindholm and Rakell, not upgrade their top 6.
They need to move salary out, while getting good value with out bringing salary back in.
This where this thread will go off the tracks.
Ducks fans will want proven players as return, but that's not why this trade will happen.
Ducks best option is to move out cap for picks and under 1 million salary prospects.

I agree that Beaulieu wouldn't be needed, but Andrighetto/Sherbak/Hudon would definitely be of interest to Anaheim. Add to that a pick or 2 and it's done.
Beaulieu would be moved after Fowler was brought in, to recoup some picks used to acquire fowler.
Best option would be to move Emelin, as that's comparable cap to Fowler, but no idea of the market for him.

It's actually about both. Ducks are moving him for cap space, but they are not going to move him for nothing. They've said it all along, they want someone who is cost controlled. Fowler could have been moved previously if the return was right, but they chose to hold off. Many have speculated that the framework for a trade was already agreed upon, but Ducks were waiting for Lindholm/Rakell. Again, Ducks are going to get a very solid return for Fowler, since many teams are looking for legitimate top 4, if not top pairing, PMD. Spooner is a good starting chip, but it would not be a 1-1 trade. Draft picks and/or prospects would also be attached.

 

[PuqTalk]

Well, thank goodness they signed Kesler.

Please, we don't need to be reminded.

 

[Henkka]

Okay Now that Fowler to Detroit.

Fowler <> Tatar

Then Fowler + extras to Winnipeg for Trouba.

 

[deathtouchtrample]

Ducks are not trading their first rounder.

why, so they can not pay whoever they take with it in 3 years and do this all over again?

 

[4thline]

Okay Now that Fowler to Detroit.

Fowler <> Tatar

Then Fowler + extras to Winnipeg for Trouba.

OT but don't go there, Jets fans have a crazy view of the value difference between Fowler and Trouba. In the context of the ducks like Larsson/Theodore crazy

 

[lindholmie]

Well, thank goodness they signed Kesler.

I know. Having a 50+ point selke finalist sucks so much

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Hopefully before long, tired of waiting!

Same here, Just want to get this stuff over with.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Well, thank goodness they signed Kesler.

He's worth every penny at the moment.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Okay Now that Fowler to Detroit.

Fowler <> Tatar

Then Fowler + extras to Winnipeg for Trouba.

Yeah knowing Cheveldayoff on top of Fowler he would probably ask for Mantha and it would end right there for Holland.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

We could have gotten Holland for nothing before he resigned, so likely not him. Don't see us trading with the Leafs.

I do, the two teams have a great relationship that goes back years wouldn't shock me st all to see Fowler become a Leaf at some point

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Well, thank goodness they signed Kesler.

kesler was arguably our best forward last season.... so that money hasn't hurt us yet( could by the end of the contract but kesler is a gamer)

 

[Crosbysux]

I do, the two teams have a great relationship that goes back years wouldn't shock me st all to see Fowler become a Leaf at some point

The realistic target for Ducks would be JVR, but if they're looking to shed $$$, he won't be it. Maybe we're looking at Nylander, but Spooner/Pastrnak seem like better options.

 

[4thline]

The realistic target for Ducks would be JVR, but if they're looking to shed $$$, he won't be it. Maybe we're looking at Nylander, but Spooner/Pastrnak seem like better options.

Both could be accomplished, the questions are are the leafs currently willing to move JVR, and are the Ducks willing to pay the cost of 50% retention

 

[OCSportsfan]

I think part of the problem is that people think Fowler is a cap dump, which he is not. He will return a top player that can help this year. They are probably talking about Stoner, and to a lesser extent Despres and/or Cogliano which the Ducks could trade for picks, ELC guys etc. Those players are probably not going to return top NHL players and will be traded for young players or lower contracts.

Fowler is valuable because of his contract, so he will return a comparable player like JVR or Tatar that will help now. Vatanen is a long shot to be traded, but he also could be moving since he has the highest salary right now of the Defensemen.

 

[wintersej]

The realistic target for Ducks would be JVR, but if they're looking to shed $$$, he won't be it. Maybe we're looking at Nylander, but Spooner/Pastrnak seem like better options.

Zero chance of Pastrnak for Fowler. Zero. I'm starting to hate the idea of Spooner, too. Fowler has two years at 4 million left. Then he will want to get paid. Meanwhile, Spooner will be on year two of a Victor Rask type extension. Even without adding a plus to Spooner, the Bruins probably win only one or two of the next 5 years on the deal. If I'm Sweeney, I see there are very few teams with the cap space to take on Fowler, and I am putting the screws to the Ducks.

 

[Crosbysux]

Both could be accomplished, the questions are are the leafs currently willing to move JVR, and are the Ducks willing to pay the cost of 50% retention

Probably not, since they want an RFA. They want some measure of control with whoever they are acquiring. JVR would fit on our team, but his next contract is likely to be much higher than he currently is. Spooner/Pastrnak would still have RFA status, so there is a degree of control with that. This isn't just my thinking, it's exactly what BM has been saying.

As much as people are trying to downplay Fowler's value right now, he's still a #2/3 offensive, puck-moving Dman, who plays solid D. Teams can go over the cap right now (unless I'm mistaken), so it's possible they acquire him, and move others to get under the cap. Detroit for instance, maybe it pushes them to trade and retain on Howard. Not saying it will happen, but some teams will make their situation work if they are interested in acquiring Fowler. Red Wings and Boston are the two most likely spots.

 

[Static]

Fowler will be moved in a hockey deal, bieksa/Stoner/despres in a cap dump move. Thats all there is to it.