Rumor: Ducks trying to unload a contract in order to re-sign Rakell/Lindholm

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

It's been 20 minutes since someones said it so I'll go back to

Trouba + 2017 1st for Lindholm.

Jets give Lindholm his payday.
Anaheim gives Trouba 6 X $5 to $5.5

If you guys are strong on the right then just move....Trouba...to.....the.....dangit!

And Anaheim has zero reason to do this, BM wont downgrade doing Lindholm for Trouba and what makes you think that Trouba would accept a 6 year deal with Anaheim don't think that he wants to be that far west any ways.

 

[broman]

And Anaheim has zero reason to do this, BM wont downgrade doing Lindholm for Trouba and what makes you think that Trouba would accept a 6 year deal with Anaheim don't think that he wants to be that far west any ways.

If swapping for Trouba allows to keep Fowler for another year or two, I am game for it. That could be the perfect transition for the young D. If two of Theo, Montour and Larsson prove NHL ready, Fowler can be let go, as well. Maybe at TD in 1.5 years for an actual return.

 

[Willy Stylez]

It's been 20 minutes since someones said it so I'll go back to

Trouba + 2017 1st for Lindholm.

Jets give Lindholm his payday.
Anaheim gives Trouba 6 X $5 to $5.5

If you guys are strong on the right then just move....Trouba...to.....the.....dangit!

You don't make sense.

 

[haseoke39]

My prediction. Either:

(1) Multiple Ducks are on the outs -- Fowler AND Stoner, not OR, and maybe more depending on the returns for those guys. The dollars are just too tight to fit Rakell and Lindholm without moving out at least $5M -- more than Fowler alone, and Ducks fans seem to think they should be getting back a good roster player for Fowler on top of it. More guys than one have to move to get under the cap with, say, $6M to Lindholm and $3M to Rakell (and both could go for more).

(2) Perry, Getzlaf, or Kesler move in a deal that might actually return the value Ducks fans think they should get while saving real money.

(3) Lindholm gets traded for a young star on an ELC.

The numbers just don't work around the other premises people are discussing -- $4M in space, probably $9M in contracts to be signed, and no one on the "dumpable" list making more than $4M. It's going to have to be a couple moves in sequence or some bigger move than all this small fry stuff.

 

[KevinRedkey]

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[dracom]

If swapping for Trouba allows to keep Fowler for another year or two, I am game for it. That could be the perfect transition for the young D. If two of Theo, Montour and Larsson prove NHL ready, Fowler can be let go, as well. Maybe at TD in 1.5 years for an actual return.

So you would trade Lindholm who wants a long term deal for only 5.5-6.5 million, for a guy who we'll most likely lose in when his bridge contract is up and end up losing Fowler as well? At best, we get to keep one of Trouba or Fowler, but I would rather have Lindholm be the guy who stays instead of either one of them.

 

[gilfaizon]

My prediction. Either:

(1) Multiple Ducks are on the outs -- Fowler AND Stoner, not OR, and maybe more depending on the returns for those guys. The dollars are just too tight to fit Rakell and Lindholm without moving out at least $5M -- more than Fowler alone, and Ducks fans seem to think they should be getting back a good roster player for Fowler on top of it. More guys than one have to move to get under the cap with, say, $6M to Lindholm and $3M to Rakell (and both could go for more).

(2) Perry, Getzlaf, or Kesler move in a deal that might actually return the value Ducks fans think they should get while saving real money.

(3) Lindholm gets traded for a young star on an ELC.

The numbers just don't work around the other premises people are discussing -- $4M in space, probably $9M in contracts to be signed, and no one on the "dumpable" list making more than $4M. It's going to have to be a couple moves in sequence or some bigger move than all this small fry stuff.

Its 1. No Brainer.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

If swapping for Trouba allows to keep Fowler for another year or two, I am game for it. That could be the perfect transition for the young D. If two of Theo, Montour and Larsson prove NHL ready, Fowler can be let go, as well. Maybe at TD in 1.5 years for an actual return.

Losing Lindholm long term for Trouba who more then likely signs a bridge deal only to bolt in a few years plus losing Fowler as well still makes zero sense. As i seriously doubt Trouba would commit long term with Anaheim any ways just don't see this being an advantage for Anaheim.

 

[broman]

Trouba on a bridge deal, no. Trouba on an affordable long-term deal, I would give serious consideration. I love Lindholm, no question about that, but his actions (or lack thereof) are fast becoming a burden. There's still time and opportunity, but not indefinitely.

 

[Breakers]

I can tell you one thing. NO ONE wants to take on Kesler's Horrible contract.

 

[dracom]

Trouba on a bridge deal, no. Trouba on an affordable long-term deal, I would give serious consideration. I love Lindholm, no question about that, but his actions (or lack thereof) are fast becoming a burden. There's still time and opportunity, but not indefinitely.

But what about Trouba's actions? Trouba is sitting out because he a team isn't putting him on the right side, whereas Lindholm just wants the money he feels like he's worth. Trouba just seems a little petty if that's the sole reason he's not signing, while Lindholm is trying to think of his future along with other RFAs on the team. Again, i would much rather give Lindholm the long term deal instead of giving Trouba a bridge deal where he will most likely just bolt somewhere else for more money.

 

[dracom]

I can tell you one thing. NO ONE wants to take on Kesler's Horrible contract.

ok? None of us want to trade Kesler anyways, you know the guy who was just nominated for the Selke. I imagine people see a big contract and the age on the older side and assume that player sucks and the contract is terrible. Just shows people don't watch Kesler at all.

 

[deckercky]

ok? None of us want to trade Kesler anyways, you know the guy who was just nominated for the Selke. I imagine people see a big contract and the age on the older side and assume that player sucks and the contract is terrible. Just shows people don't watch Kesler at all.

Kesler is great, and is probably fair value for the contract this year, but there will definitely be some anchor years on that contract.

That said, I think Kesler is moveable (just not at anything close to a price that would incentivise the Ducks).

 

[Daximus]

Daximus

But what about Trouba's actions? Trouba is sitting out because he a team isn't putting him on the right side, whereas Lindholm just wants the money he feels like he's worth. Trouba just seems a little petty if that's the sole reason he's not signing, while Lindholm is trying to think of his future along with other RFAs on the team. Again, i would much rather give Lindholm the long term deal instead of giving Trouba a bridge deal where he will most likely just bolt somewhere else for more money.

Right side thing is just smoke and mirrors. He wants to be close to Detroit.

 

[dracom]

Kesler is great, and is probably fair value for the contract this year, but there will definitely be some anchor years on that contract.

That said, I think Kesler is moveable (just not at anything close to a price that would incentivise the Ducks).

Yeah, it's possible it becomes an anchor, but it's not one right now. So while we're still trying to win a cup, there's no reason to bring up Kes as a possible player to be moved. That doesn't even bring up his NMC either...

 

[Breakers]

ok? None of us want to trade Kesler anyways, you know the guy who was just nominated for the Selke. I imagine people see a big contract and the age on the older side and assume that player sucks and the contract is terrible. Just shows people don't watch Kesler at all.

I dont assume the contract sucks.

It does suck.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

But what about Trouba's actions? Trouba is sitting out because he a team isn't putting him on the right side, whereas Lindholm just wants the money he feels like he's worth. Trouba just seems a little petty if that's the sole reason he's not signing, while Lindholm is trying to think of his future along with other RFAs on the team. Again, i would much rather give Lindholm the long term deal instead of giving Trouba a bridge deal where he will most likely just bolt somewhere else for more money.

Usage playing on the right side is just smoke and mirrors for Trouba, He wants out of the Peg period plain and simple.

 

[dracom]

I dont assume the contract sucks.

It does suck.

Why? Because he's 32? For a guy that just got nominated for a Selke, had 53 points, and still shutdown teams top lines on a constant basis. He's worth the money. Probably should have just admitted you say the amount and age and assumed it sucked.

 

[OCSportsfan]

I dont assume the contract sucks.

It does suck.

Of the big three, I think Keslers contract is the most reasonable for what he brings, since it is $2 million less. He will be serviceable even at the end due to his face off skills and defensive ability. Perry's will be the worst in a few years as he slows down IMO.

 

[njdevil26]

Somehow we have to get Fowler to the Devils and reunite him with his Windsor teammates Henrique and Hall.

 

[Doublechin]

You got Hall for Larsson, Fowler will cost Hall and a 1st.

 

[Smitty426]

You got Hall for Larsson, Fowler will cost Hall and a 1st.

Done, send over the papers

 

[BB88]

So Anaheim has $3,398,835 cap space, with 14 forwards, 8 defenseman.
http://www.generalfanager.com/teams/anaheim-ducks

Something like 4.7M with 12 forwards, don't know which defenseman they'll drop.



Yet Berniers 4.15M cap hit doesn't matter to Anaheim at all

 

[tarheelhockey]

We're over 1000 posts, someone can make a new thread if they want to carry on the discussion.

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