Rumor: Ducks trying to unload a contract in order to re-sign Rakell/Lindholm

[VictoriaJetsFan]

Bieksa won't waive his NMC to come to Winnipeg. And no thanks on the Trouba/Lindholm base.

didn't know he had a NMC..

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

If the Ducks want to clear space, the Rangers are more than willing to take Vatanen off their hands

 

[dracom]

If the Ducks want to clear space, the Rangers are more than willing to take Vatanen off their hands

should have grabbed him for Girardi a few years back when you had the chance. Ducks aren't going to trade the guy the just re-signed and made a big deal about it to season ticket holders.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

should have grabbed him for Girardi a few years back when you had the chance. Ducks aren't going to trade the guy the just re-signed and made a big deal about it to season ticket holders.

Yeah, going to haunt the Rangers for a while that they didn't make that deal

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Here is a Wpg-Anaheim idea.....

To Ducks:

Trouba
Telegin

To Jets:
Lindholm
Bieksa

Sorry but Bieksa isn't waiving for Winnipeg, And a deal around Lindholm Trouba just isn't going to happen.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

If the Ducks want to clear space, the Rangers are more than willing to take Vatanen off their hands

So would tons of other teams, The only problem with this seeing that Anaheim needs to shed salary so BM will want a player on a cheap ELC deal so unless you've the cap to fit that contract in and the Rangers don't then they don't make good trading partners here.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

Well, thank goodness they signed Kesler.

HF has so many clueless opinions about Kesler, it's either people don't watch him play or just personally hate him so much.

 

[King In The North]

Could Ducks fans explain the need for Bernier and his cap hit. Seems like that trade ****ed up their RFA strategy.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

Could Ducks fans explain the need for Bernier and his cap hit. Seems like that trade ****ed up their RFA strategy.

cap hit does not matter, the ducks acquired him after toronto paid out a 2 million dollar roster bonus, so he is a good contingency plan if gibson gets hurt, or when he has down periods. bernier slots in fine as a 1/b goalie who could play 30+ games

 

[Pinkfloyd]

So is Bickell and he's a rental. That extra year is a killer.

Why would anyone want to have Stoners cap hit next summer?
Cap space is highly valuable, and Stoner would take away over 3M.

Bickell is not an NHL'er. The Hawks thought so highly of Bickell that they were going to get more use out of the 950k they get by burying Bickell in the AHL over keeping him. That extra year isn't a killer when the guy you're getting is a competent 3rd pairing d-man. Now he's not valuable in any way and the Ducks will have to send an asset with him if they can't retain salary but it's not going to be to the level of a Teravainen or Crouse. It'll be less or if Anaheim is going to tag someone like Fowler with him, they will get a better return.

 

[BB88]

cap hit does not matter, the ducks acquired him after toronto paid out a 2 million dollar roster bonus, so he is a good contingency plan if gibson gets hurt, or when he has down periods. bernier slots in fine as a 1/b goalie who could play 30+ games

That just doesn't make sense, we have this thread because Anaheim doesn't have cap space to sign their RFA's without moving someone.

Bernier isn't anything special, he's your ok backup goalie.

 

[taylorjonl]

I checked the cap situations from eastern teams. At this point it seems that neither Detroit nor Montreal is able to make a deal where they take more salary/cap than Ducks.

I originally thought this too but I am not so sure anymore. Let me explain. This URL has the formulas for calculating cap relief from LTIR:

https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq

There are two formulas, one where you can become compliant before you put players on LTIR, the other where you LTIR them before the season starts. Detroit is in the second category.

You can go over the salary cap by %10 in the off season which is $80.3m, Detroit is at $78m or pretty close, so according to that they could spend up to another $2.3m more, right?

 

[taylorjonl]

That just doesn't make sense, we have this thread because Anaheim doesn't have cap space to sign their RFA's without moving someone.

Bernier isn't anything special, he's your ok backup goalie.

Anaheim has the cap space, they don't have the $$.

 

[Liferleafer]

That just doesn't make sense, we have this thread because Anaheim doesn't have cap space to sign their RFA's without moving someone.

Bernier isn't anything special, he's your ok backup goalie.

Leafs paid his bonus and retained half.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

That just doesn't make sense, we have this thread because Anaheim doesn't have cap space to sign their RFA's without moving someone.

Bernier isn't anything special, he's your ok backup goalie.

ducks have a self imposed budget, the cap does not matter, total dollar amount does

bernier provides what the ducks need, an experienced goalie, who can step in to play for extended periods if needed

 

[Jumptheshark]

ducks have a self imposed budget, the cap does not matter, total dollar amount does

bernier provides what the ducks need, an experienced goalie, who can step in to play for extended periods if needed

also--Benier is signed for one year and is there for one reason only--If Gibson falls


Bernier is a goalie who behind a good d will look good

 

[BatVader]

Fowler to Mtl

then

Emelin to NJ for a 4th rounder

I'd be good with a 4th for Emelin.
I think Mtl is definitely in the mix on Fowler

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

also--Benier is signed for one year and is there for one reason only--If Gibson falls


Bernier is a goalie who behind a good d will look good

I think Carlyle liked him so much that he brought him over to Anaheim.

 

[Nylanderthal]

Could Ducks fans explain the need for Bernier and his cap hit. Seems like that trade ****ed up their RFA strategy.

It was more than likely part of the Andersen deal. Anaheim just waited for Toronto to pay out the bonus on July 1st to save some cash. Then the deal shakes out as 30th + 2017 2nd + bernier for Andersen.

 

[Vipers31]

I think Carlyle liked him so much that he brought him over to Anaheim.

Carlyle isn't in charge of making such decisions. But for Murray, it probably doesn't hurt knowing a goalie has played his best hockey under your coach. There weren't too many 1B goaltenders available this summer - Bernier at a $2.15M salary checks the boxes of what the Ducks were looking for better than most options.

 

[BB88]

Anaheim has the cap space, they don't have the $$.

7.5M cap space for Lindholm and Rakell, one of them is asking something around 6M and the other something around 4M.

Sign 1M goalie and run with, save money, save 3M in cap hit.

Lindholm-Vatanen
Fowler- Despres
Theo- Bieksa
and try to win the Cup, Bernier won't carry them, or make an impact like Fowler can to that D-group.

 

[LoovTrain]

Leafs paid his bonus and retained half.

The Leafs didn't retain anything

 

[robbieboy3686]

Pierre never said anything about a significant contract, the guy who posted the tweet was way off on how he posted it. He said a player, who he did not want to name out of respect for said player, and then he said, "let's say Ducks are in trade talks to move a highly valued player, to an east coast team." They were discussing Rakell and Lindholm's contracts and how Anaheim will have to free up space somehow. The size of contract for the player being moved was never discussed. He didn't want to say Fowler, since Fowler has already dealt with the consistent trade chatter at the deadline.

Now to the Fowler trade. Guys can dream that they will get Fowler without giving up a player you wouldn't want to lose, but you would be doing just that, dreaming. If Ducks just wanted to clear cap space, they find a way to move Stoner or even trade Despres. Moving just one of those guys would clear enough space. BM has said that he wouldn't move Fowler unless he got a good return. There's enough teams looking for a player like Fowler, that BM will be getting a good return.

Ty exactly on point the entire post

 

[Exit Dose]

7.5M cap space for Lindholm and Rakell, one of them is asking something around 6M and the other something around 4M.

Sign 1M goalie and run with, save money, save 3M in cap hit.

Lindholm-Vatanen
Fowler- Despres
Theo- Bieksa
and try to win the Cup, Bernier won't carry them, or make an impact like Fowler can to that D-group.

Gibson hasn't shown he can carry them either, so no, it was important to get someone like Bernier.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Gibson hasn't shown he can carry them either, so no, it was important to get someone like Bernier.

Exactly, there was a reason we targeted Bernier and not a cheap back up - starting experience.