Rumor: Ducks trying to unload a contract in order to re-sign Rakell/Lindholm

[joplin]

How much time does Anaheim have to sign Rakell and Lindholm? start of the regular season?

 

[Exit Dose]

How much time does Anaheim have to sign Rakell and Lindholm? start of the regular season?

December is the deadline for them to play this season.

 

[Paul4587]

How much time does Anaheim have to sign Rakell and Lindholm? start of the regular season?

December 1st is when they need to be signed in order to be eligible to play this season.

 

[Heraldic]

"Significant contract". Is it in terms of cap hit/salary or the caliber of the player?

I'm not sure is Despres a "significant". Stoner's contract is not significant despite it having a significant impact on Ducks. Fowler is a significant player, but not sure is his contract a significant?

 

[tony d]

Cam Fowler being traded is probably what will happen.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Fowler will definitely be gone... Ducks need to open a spot for Theodore

and then hopefully Stoner or someone

 

[Der Jaeger]

Buffalo (after signing Risto) and Detroit will have a tough time making the cap work.

NJ would have to be a mostly futures based deal. (Boucher+ as they don't have cost controlled top 6 forwards to spare)

I'm guessing the Ducks are trying to push a Spooner deal and Sweeney is trying to just do enough to beat out NJ without losing Spooner. When the Bruins moved out Lucic, Sweeney said they wanted to have the cap space to take advantage of another team like the Bruins had been taken advantaged of with Boychuk and Hamilton. Here is his chance.

Unless Buffalo goes higher than $6M with Ristolainen, they've got just a shade higher than $4M available.

McCormick is retired, and they are at 23 contracts on the roster on capfriendly.

 

[Jumptheshark]

"Significant contract". Is it in terms of cap hit/salary or the caliber of the player?

I'm not sure is Despres a "significant". Stoner's contract is not significant despite it having a significant impact on Ducks. Fowler is a significant player, but not sure is his contract a significant?

That is why I mentioned kesler. It is someone someone we are not expecting

 

[WhatTheDuck]

That is why I mentioned kesler. It is someone someone we are not expecting

It's not Kesler, you can all but guarantee that. The Ducks can't afford to move a key forward and he's as vital as they get.

 

[Vipers31]

"Significant contract". Is it in terms of cap hit/salary or the caliber of the player?

I'm not sure is Despres a "significant". Stoner's contract is not significant despite it having a significant impact on Ducks. Fowler is a significant player, but not sure is his contract a significant?

I'm pretty sure in a context like this a $4M contract would be labeled "significant". Heck, the opposite of an "insignificant contract" would usually be reserved to guys in the $1M range.

That is why I mentioned kesler. It is someone someone we are not expecting

Mentioning Kesler still made no sense, on any level. NTC, he wants to go nowhere, Ducks want him to go nowhere, as he's a crucial part of the team that's looking to win now. There's no reason to believe it's someone we're not expecting.

 

[Debrincat93]

no one is going to take stoner's coin unless the ducks are obtaining another bad contract.

despres has promise and some to offer, IMO.

Maybe the wings are still in talks for Fowler, but then again that would mean someone needs to go back the other way. so maybe not, unless theyll take pick instead.

they should look to unload kesler, he's not worth 6.8m but i cant see anyone taking that on.

 

[teravaineSAROS]

A Bruins deal would make sense considering the Bruins arent doing all too well with their defensive core

 

[Benstheman]

Fowler to Mtl

then

Emelin to NJ for a 4th rounder

 

[wintersej]

Unless Buffalo goes higher than $6M with Ristolainen, they've got just a shade higher than $4M available.

McCormick is retired, and they are at 23 contracts on the roster on capfriendly.

I think you are off by 25 - 50k in the wrong direction, but I think that Risto deserves 6+ based on the Hamilton deal, don't you?

 

[Not So Mighty]

"Significant contract". Is it in terms of cap hit/salary or the caliber of the player?

I'm not sure is Despres a "significant". Stoner's contract is not significant despite it having a significant impact on Ducks. Fowler is a significant player, but not sure is his contract a significant?

With the Ducks' cap situation combined with the RFA situation, all those contracts are significant.

That is why I mentioned kesler. It is someone someone we are not expecting

I'll eat my hat if it's Kesler. he has arguably been our MVP since he arrived. Yeah, his contract is brutal and will only get more brutal but he's likely going nowhere thanks to his NMC and how much better he makes us right now. I love the guy, I'm not interested in moving him unless it's a steal. We still believe the window is open.

 

[Liferleafer]

Fowler will definitely be gone... Ducks need to open a spot for Theodore

and then hopefully Stoner or someone

Allow me to kill 2 birds with one stone....JVR for Fowler,Stoner and a 2nd.

 

[WheresRamziAbid]

Despres to Devils book it he checks off all the boxes for their tradeable defensemen.

Defensemen good enough to actually be wanted... Fowler and Despres
Defensemen meh enough for the Ducks not to miss them ... Despres, Stoner, Bieska
Ducks defenders who were drafted by a sitting GM in the East with cap space to spare... Despres.

Personally as much as Shero pissed me off bu te end of his tenure hes starting to scare the h*ll outta me in NJ. Got Palmieri, Hall for Larson a 2nd and a 3rd. And i wouldnt doubt he finds a way to get an easy D upgrade even if its a blah guy like Stoner.

Oh not to mention Pierre has a massive friend ***** for Shero. It makes too much sense not to happen

 

[Heraldic]

That is why I mentioned kesler. It is someone someone we are not expecting

Considering he has an NMC, it is highly unlikely Kesler is going to be moved at this point of a season.

I'm pretty sure in a context like this a $4M contract would be labeled "significant". Heck, the opposite of an "insignificant contract" would usually be reserved to guys in the $1M range.

Perhaps. But but it would have been a lot more clearer to speak about "significant PLAYER", because phrasing it like that, really doesn't tell us much.

But I think that tweet tells us that the contract is not likely going to be a "hockey trade", rather than a trade involving picks/prospects. You don't "unload" or "create space", if there is coming at least close to comparable salary back.

 

[Vipers31]

Perhaps. But but it would have been a lot more clearer to speak about "significant PLAYER", because phrasing it like that, really doesn't tell us much.

But I think that tweet tells us that the contract is not likely going to be a "hockey trade", rather than a trade involving picks/prospects. You don't "unload" or "create space", if there is coming at least close to comparable salary back.

I personally never expected comparable salary coming back - in regards to the "unloading", from what's been said about the actual source in this thread, that wasn't actually what was said. That would indeed have a much more distinct connotation.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

no one is going to take stoner's coin unless the ducks are obtaining another bad contract.

despres has promise and some to offer, IMO.

Maybe the wings are still in talks for Fowler, but then again that would mean someone needs to go back the other way. so maybe not, unless theyll take pick instead.

they should look to unload kesler, he's not worth 6.8m but i cant see anyone taking that on.

No one who follows the Ducks closely would say that of Kesler, he's easily worth what he's paid at the moment and isn't going anywhere.

 

[Heraldic]

I personally never expected comparable salary coming back - in regards to the "unloading", from what's been said about the actual source in this thread, that wasn't actually what was said. That would indeed have a much more distinct connotation.

I think there are plenty of Ducks' fans expecting Fowler bringing comparable player back. And given that there really don't seem to be a lot of those kind of players with lesser salary, it means at least comparable salary as well.

And at this point Fowler seems to be the most likely player to be moved. Despres doesn't free that much of actual salary. The other possibility is that B.Murray has decided to give a high end prospect along with a contract dump.

What was the original quote? I don't think I have seen it, then.

 

[Vipers31]

And at this point Fowler seems to be the most likely player to be moved. Despres doesn't free that much of actual salary. The other possibility is that B.Murray has decided to give a high end prospect along with a contract dump.

I'd tend to agree. Fowler would seem like the most logical candidate, also factoring in Theodore stepping in for whoever moves out.

What was the original quote? I don't think I have seen it, then.

This is what I've seen:

Almost word for word:

"I will not say the players name only because I don't think it's appropriate, but they are trying to move a high valued target to a team in the east. There have been a lot of discussions. Talking to at least two teams in the east."

 

[Jumptheshark]

I'd tend to agree. Fowler would seem like the most logical candidate, also factoring in Theodore stepping in for whoever moves out.



This is what I've seen:

I am shocked fowler is still a duck

 

[Neutral Hockey Fan]

They have cap space.

Who are the owners? Why are they so cheap?

You Would think a team that's old and trying to win now would, you know, actually spend to try and win?

 

[Heraldic]

I'd tend to agree. Fowler would seem like the most logical candidate, also factoring in Theodore stepping in for whoever moves out.



This is what I've seen:

Thanks for the quote.

So it's not a cap dump. After that quote there really isn't any other option than Fowler (considering he was the one the trade talks were about at the draft). Silfverberg might be the other, but I don't really see that being the case.

And the teams are probably the same teams as before (Wings, Montreal and Buffalo).

So basically there really isn't anything new here.