Rumor: Ducks trying to unload a contract in order to re-sign Rakell/Lindholm

[Crosbysux]

I'll give you NJ, that one I struggled with.

"Easily", I don't agree.

Don't mind him, he's been doing that the whole thread. No way Rakell is included in any deal though.

 

[Crosbysux]

I disagree. They do.

Bernier is a UFA, and Anaheim has nothing behind Gibson.

They have Boyle and Matcalf in the pipeline, which Duck are high on. They'll sign a back up in FA next year if need be. Ducks aren't desperate for goaltending and there's much more pressing needs in the forward ranks. I find it funny that none Duck fans are telling Duck fans what they need. Lol

 

[Leon Draisaitl]

Hoping its Tatar+pick for Fowler and that the only hold up is finding a landing spot for Brendan Smith so Detroit can absorb Fowler's salary.

That barely helps out Anaheim and it would only help for one year...

 

[Ducks Nation*]

They have Boyle and Matcalf in the pipeline, which Duck are high on. They'll sign a back up in FA next year if need be. Ducks aren't desperate for goaltending and there's much more pressing needs in the forward ranks. I find it funny that none Duck fans are telling Duck fans what they need. Lol

Boyle and Matcalf are nothing special thus far

 

[Sens Vader]

which teams in the east can help the Ducks out? I'm guessing there can only be a handful

 

[WesMcCauley]

which teams in the east can help the Ducks out? I'm guessing there can only be a handful

New Jersey, Carolina?

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Depends what 'helping out' the Ducks is exactly.

If it's swapping Fowler for a good young winger who makes a lot less than Fowler, I doubt it's a long list. Seems like that type of trade would have been done in July or August if it were realistic.

If Murray wants to trade Fowler for futures and clear the cap room to re-sign his 2 RFAs, I suspect it would be a long list.

 

[BB88]

which teams in the east can help the Ducks out? I'm guessing there can only be a handful

Boston can help with Spooner.

 

[Sens Vader]

Depends what 'helping out' the Ducks is exactly.

If it's swapping Fowler for a good young winger who makes a lot less than Fowler, I doubt it's a long list. Seems like that type of trade would have been done in July or August if it were realistic.

If Murray wants to trade Fowler for futures and clear the cap room to re-sign his 2 RFAs, I suspect it would be a long list.

who has the capspace is the question, they are clearly trying to move out salary to sign their RFA's

 

[Emerald Duck]

Depends what 'helping out' the Ducks is exactly.

If it's swapping Fowler for a good young winger who makes a lot less than Fowler, I doubt it's a long list. Seems like that type of trade would have been done in July or August if it were realistic.

If Murray wants to trade Fowler for futures and clear the cap room to re-sign his 2 RFAs, I suspect it would be a long list.

Ducks could not (and can not) afford to move Fowler unless they are 100% certain they have a deal with Lindholm. As long as Lindholm remains unsigned, Fowler will remain a Duck. We suspect Murray may have already had detailed discussions with some clubs that will lead to a future deal, but he can't pull the trigger yet.

 

[Crosbysux]

Boyle and Matcalf are nothing special thus far

Boyle just had a great season in college, which prompted the Ducks to sign him. He's a fine developmental piece. The Ducks domt need anything this year and if Boyle doesn't progress, they only need a backup next season. Goalie is not a concern they're addressing, especially if it mitigates the return on a forward.

 

[Crosbysux]

Forgot to mention Tokarski as well. He's good enough for the AHL and a short term back up goalie if Gibby or Bernier gets hurt.

 

[Ducks in a row]

Vatanen to the Oilers for Reinhart.

Nope we are not trading or highest scoring defenseman to division rival Oilers who badly need a defenseman like Vatanen for trash like that.

The point of the trade is to save money to sign Lindholm and Rakell, not upgrade their top 6.
They need to move salary out, while getting good value with out bringing salary back in.
This where this thread will go off the tracks.
Ducks fans will want proven players as return, but that's not why this trade will happen.
Ducks best option is to move out cap for picks and under 1 million salary prospects.

I agree that Beaulieu wouldn't be needed, but Andrighetto/Sherbak/Hudon would definitely be of interest to Anaheim. Add to that a pick or 2 and it's done.
Beaulieu would be moved after Fowler was brought in, to recoup some picks used to acquire fowler.
Best option would be to move Emelin, as that's comparable cap to Fowler, but no idea of the market for him.

Ducks are a win now team as well trading Fowler for just picks and prospects shouldn't be a option we need someone who can help us now.

why, so they can not pay whoever they take with it in 3 years and do this all over again?

Only 1 time in out franchise history we didn't draft in round 1 we are not going to be trading our only 1st round pick from a draft.

Phil Di Guiseppe + 2nd
For
Fowler

PDG could easily be a 40+ point LW on Anaheim next year and is on an ELC. Canes add to a position of strength and eventually move out a D for a F.

He wouldn't easily be a 40+ point LW for us he might be one but probably not. Not trading Fowler for a 22 year old forward with just 41 games of NHL experience with bottom 6 production levels.

I could see the Ducks trading Fowler for a 1st + prospect.

How can you see that with us being in win now mode?

Silf to Ottawa?

We are not trading Silf especially back to Ottawa

Fowler
Kerdiles

For

Spooner
Vatrano

----

Merrill
Quenneville
Boucher

For

Fowler

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Nylander
Girgensons
Minnesota 2nd 2017

For

Fowler
Rakell

Deal 1 seems fine.

Deal 2 has us getting a defenseman we don't want any defenseman and we are not getting a good enough forward coming back to us.

Deal 3 not traiding Fowler and Rakell.

I disagree. They do.

Bernier is a UFA, and Anaheim has nothing behind Gibson.

Bernier is signed for this season so we have Gibson and Bernier as our goalies we don't need anymore yet.

That barely helps out Anaheim and it would only help for one year...

Tatar + for Fowler gives us a top 6 LW that we need and saves us 1.25 this season and Tatar is still a RFA after that. Sure it would be great if we save more but it won't can't do anything better this is better then nothing.

Boston can help with Spooner.

Yea he would be a big help for this season.

 

[Spazkat]

Vatanen, Fowler or Despres obviously.
I doubt Despres has max value right now though due to his concussion last year.

I seriously doubt it's Vatanen. They trotted him out with his shiny new contract for the season ticket holder event. Plus Bob is always making a big deal about "guys that want to be there" and Sami is all that. Going on about how the Ducks were his favorite NHL team growing up at the draft etc.

 

[King Weber]

have a gut feeling one of Perry or Getzlaf will go before the trade deadline. To who or for what.. I have no idea.

 

[wintersej]

I really think that if a Fowler deal that Anaheim wanted was out there, it would be done. Now it's waiting to see who blinks. Anaheim isn't in a great spot right now.

 

[Hally BlackWood]

have a gut feeling one of Perry or Getzlaf will go before the trade deadline. To who or for what.. I have no idea.

They need more help up front and are loaded on the back end why would they trade one of them?

 

[IDuck]

have a gut feeling one of Perry or Getzlaf will go before the trade deadline. To who or for what.. I have no idea.

might want to have a doc check out your gut.

 

[Ducks Nation*]

have a gut feeling one of Perry or Getzlaf will go before the trade deadline. To who or for what.. I have no idea.

I have a gut feeling Nashville will trade Forsberg and Subban

 

[taylorjonl]

I really think that if a Fowler deal that Anaheim wanted was out there, it would be done. Now it's waiting to see who blinks. Anaheim isn't in a great spot right now.

I think if it were an overpayment I agree, but otherwise they can't trade Fowler until Lindholm is signed or they lose any leverage they have with his negotiations. Imagine they enter the season with Lindholm not signed and without Fowler.

 

[King Weber]

I have a gut feeling Nashville will trade Forsberg and Subban

might want to have a doc check out your gut.

geez, no need to get all pissy about it

 

[ginner classic]

Despres to Devils book it he checks off all the boxes for their tradeable defensemen.

Defensemen good enough to actually be wanted... Fowler and Despres
Defensemen meh enough for the Ducks not to miss them ... Despres, Stoner, Bieska
Ducks defenders who were drafted by a sitting GM in the East with cap space to spare... Despres.

Personally as much as Shero pissed me off bu te end of his tenure hes starting to scare the h*ll outta me in NJ. Got Palmieri, Hall for Larson a 2nd and a 3rd. And i wouldnt doubt he finds a way to get an easy D upgrade even if its a blah guy like Stoner.

Very logical. I like it. I prefer Fowler to Winnipeg for Connor but yeah...this makes sense.

 

[ginner classic]

Boston, New Jersey, Detroit and Buffalo all could use Fowler.

 

[caliamad]

Oh?

That is well played.

You forgot the mic drop.

 

[wintersej]

Boston, New Jersey, Detroit and Buffalo all could use Fowler.

Buffalo (after signing Risto) and Detroit will have a tough time making the cap work.

NJ would have to be a mostly futures based deal. (Boucher+ as they don't have cost controlled top 6 forwards to spare)

I'm guessing the Ducks are trying to push a Spooner deal and Sweeney is trying to just do enough to beat out NJ without losing Spooner. When the Bruins moved out Lucic, Sweeney said they wanted to have the cap space to take advantage of another team like the Bruins had been taken advantaged of with Boychuk and Hamilton. Here is his chance.