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Speculation: Ducks grabbing a top 6 forward for Fowler/despres

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heusy_79 said:
Have to upgrade the prospect to Senyshyn to keep my interest.


I'd propose Boucher + conditional 2018 3rd (becomes a 2nd if Despres plays 140 games or more in two seasons) for Despres.
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Id do that, and I think Senyshyn could become pretty damn good


On another note, funny to see this board do a 180 on the kid. Putting up points will do that i guess
 
KnightofBoston said:
Id do that, and I think Senyshyn could become pretty damn good


On another note, funny to see this board do a 180 on the kid. Putting up points will do that i guess
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I was the guy on the Ducks board last year telling everyone Senyshyn would be a 1st rounder, and one of the few people who wasn't shocked to see him drafted that high. Always have been a big fan so I'm probably not the best example of your point :)
 
The trade that makes sense to me the that these two teams, ANA and NSH may not make is:

Fowler for Wilson.

This is a trade that helps both teams. Fowler is on their third pair.... insulated and not exposed. He's a good fit there.

But these two teams have to go through each other in some realistic scenarios if they want to make the finals.

Do they pull the trigger on a move like this?

Dollar for dollar, need for need, both teams dealing from a position of strength to fill a contender type of need.
 
Mikos87 said:
The trade that makes sense to me the that these two teams, ANA and NSH may not make is:

Fowler for Wilson.

This is a trade that helps both teams. Fowler is on their third pair.... insulated and not exposed. He's a good fit there.

But these two teams have to go through each other in some realistic scenarios if they want to make the finals.

Do they pull the trigger on a move like this?

Dollar for dollar, need for need, both teams dealing from a position of strength to fill a contender type of need.
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I'm not even sure which Wilson you're referring to but we're not moving Fowler for him regardless, nor is anyone trading for him to put him on their third pair, that's just silly.
 
heusy_79 said:
I'm not even sure which Wilson you're referring to but we're not moving Fowler for him regardless, nor is anyone trading for him to put him on their third pair, that's just silly.
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Colin Wilson. The purpose of putting him on a third pair is making sure you have a sick backend.

NSH has the forward depth to make this deal, ANA the defensive depth. They make both teams better.

Wilson can play a top 6 game that matches the ducks style. Go back to that 20 goal form. Slots the ducks forward units nicely.

Just my thinking as an outside fan.
 
trading vatanen would be incredibly stupid. i don't see it happening

fowler/despres i'm fine with. especially despres since he'd be playing in vegas next season anyways
 
Mikos87 said:
The trade that makes sense to me the that these two teams, ANA and NSH may not make is:

Fowler for Wilson.

This is a trade that helps both teams. Fowler is on their third pair.... insulated and not exposed. He's a good fit there.

But these two teams have to go through each other in some realistic scenarios if they want to make the finals.

Do they pull the trigger on a move like this?

Dollar for dollar, need for need, both teams dealing from a position of strength to fill a contender type of need.
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I don't think teams should worry about strengthening same conference yet different division teams. If you make it to the WCF, you are going to be playing a good team, whether your trade helped them get there or not. If you believe you are building a contender, you should only avoid helping the other contenders in your own division.
 
robbieboy3686 said:
My fellow duck fans vastly underestimate stoner( because he is overpaid maybe a million) and how beloved he is by BM, the guy has a lot of intangibles, he isn't a throw away
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Well...we wouldn't be interested in Bieksa. Not sure how you are hoping for a top 6 fprward as well as shedding salary...
 
robbieboy3686 said:
No thanks to this weak, small.( 0 come playoff time) player, when we played the flames a couple years back. he was aboslutely crushed and scared when we started hitting him, he belongs in the east, hes to much of a pansy for the west.
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So you are going to base your opinion on what you saw once, 2 years ago?

:laugh::yo:
 
robbieboy3686 said:
My fellow duck fans vastly underestimate stoner( because he is overpaid maybe a million) and how beloved he is by BM, the guy has a lot of intangibles, he isn't a throw away
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You're right about Stoner but it doesn't change the fact that our youth has made him expendable and this team could seriously put his money to good use. I don't think he's worthless but I'd let him go as negative value just to free up the money. Maybe he doesn't deserve to be labeled a throwaway, but he is one due to our situation and he has BM to thank for that.
 
robbieboy3686 said:
My fellow duck fans vastly underestimate stoner( because he is overpaid maybe a million) and how beloved he is by BM, the guy has a lot of intangibles, he isn't a throw away
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I'm probably in the minority, but I actually think Stoner is going to have a good year under Carlyle. He'll still be overpaid by a million, but I think he's gonna be a very dependable 3rd pairing guy this season. Even if he is not, I still don't think he is untradeable. We would probably just have to retain some salary or throw in a pick to sweeten any potential deal, and since he's pretty much a depth guy, that's all we could really expect in return.

That said, we do need to unload one of Fowler/Despres/Stoner or maybe even two, for salary reasons and also because we simply have too many D, so if there is a good offer for Stoner I could see him being moved. I am much more inclined to move Despres though since we would likely lose him to the expansion draft anyway. And as counter-intuitive as it may seem, I would also be open to moving both Fowler and Despres for the right deals, if it meant freeing up a lot of money to re-sign Hampus for a long term deal and brought in a few good young forwards
 
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