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If we’re rebuilding why get rid of him at all? Rebuilding teams don’t need cap space. Hold on to him, eat the worst years of the contract while the team sucks, then dump him to a bottom feeder when the team is back in the playoffs and there’s only a few years left on the deal. It’ll still cost us, but less than trying to get rid of him now.
 

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If we’re rebuilding why get rid of him at all? Rebuilding teams don’t need cap space. Hold on to him, eat the worst years of the contract while the team sucks, then dump him to a bottom feeder when the team is back in the playoffs and there’s only a few years left on the deal. It’ll still cost us, but less than trying to get rid of him now.
There is a NMC that kicks in after this season
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chris kontos

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After watching the guy on three teams, when he was on the jets pretty closely, this guy does not give a rats ass whether the team wins or loses.
But i dont think thats a particularly rare attitude among pro athletes of all sports. Whats really incredible to me is how little he Appearently cares about his individual performance. Easpecially as the son of an ahl coach and player who had over 500 games played as a defenseman.
 

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Can you imagine having a bad reputation, then an employer puts faith you, invests in you, gives you the biggest paycheck you've ever dreamed of (making you set for life), then you pay that employer back by not-giving-as-shit and putting in a half hearted effort at work? Making the manager who put faith in you look stupid?

Because that's exactly what PLD has done.

It shows a lack of integrity.
It's not even a half-hearted effort. It's a career worst since he started in the NHL. Even the COVID shortened season saw 21 points in 46 games. That would still be a 37-point pace. So far, he has 35 in 74.
 
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If we’re rebuilding why get rid of him at all? Rebuilding teams don’t need cap space. Hold on to him, eat the worst years of the contract while the team sucks, then dump him to a bottom feeder when the team is back in the playoffs and there’s only a few years left on the deal. It’ll still cost us, but less than trying to get rid of him now.
He gets ~27 million over 14 years if he is bought out this summer. He makes ~22.5 million over the next two seasons and over 31 million over the next three seasons if PLD is retained. A buyout saves ownership money.
 
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He gets ~27 million over 14 years if he is bought out this summer. He makes ~22.5 million over the next two seasons and over 31 million over the next three seasons if PLD is retained. A buyout saves ownership money.
More imoprtantly, we get about $7 mil a year to use on a more useful player. Like a f***ing goalie
 

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Has a new guy that people were (or were told to be) excited about ever been hated this much since Roenick? At least he only had one year left on his deal.

As for buyouts, woah boy has Blake been good at spending Phil's money.

Stevens
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Petersen (not a firing or buy out but holy shit)
 
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johnjm22

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It's not even a half-hearted effort. It's a career worst since he started in the NHL. Even the COVID shortened season saw 21 points in 46 games. That would still be a 37-point pace. So far, he has 35 in 74.
"Half" hearted might have been generous.

But for me it's not even about the points, it's about the effort.

30 points from Iafallo would be worth more than 60 points from PLD.
 

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"Half" hearted might have been generous.

But for me it's not even about the points, it's about the effort.

30 points from Iafallo would be worth more than 60 points from PLD.
Yeah, sorry. Didn't mean to "well ackshully" you. Was just adding how terrible it is.
 
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tbrown33

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It absolutely does.

But just looking at it from the perspective of the individual player, it's baffling.

If someone hooked me up the way Blake did, I'd be working my ass off to pay him back. PLD seems to not care.
A good example of Dubois' antithesis is Mookie Betts. Dude has moved from OF to 2B to the hardest defensive position in baseball because the team needed him to, and he's embraced it bc he actually prefers more responsibility. He's already signed his lifetime deal.
 
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Only if you don't bring in anyone else to replace him though.
My response was to a post about why would a rebuilding Kings team would want to buyout PLD. His spot would be filled by a cheap contract (rookie/journeyman) so there would be savings of roughly 6 million in cash saved next season alone. There is zero reason to keep PLD.
 
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tbrown33

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On this note.
Sean Walker, who we gave away in that trade) is playing the best hockey of his career in PHI and CO

More proof that our development and coaching are shit
Still wild to me that they used Walker as a cap dump in a deal that netted them very little savings. But he was playing very well 2nd half of last season as it usually takes about a full season of return to play before a player gets back to 100% effectiveness. Hard to know how much "coaching" per se held him back vs ACL recovery, but there does seem to be a long line of ex-Kings who were middling here and thriving elsewhere.
 
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A good example of Dubois' antithesis is Mookie Betts. Dude has moved from OF to 2B to the hardest defensive position in baseball because the team needed him to, and he's embraced it bc he actually prefers more responsibility. He's already signed his lifetime deal.
Mookie was a second baseman until the Red Sox called him up. He moved to OF so they could have him and Pedroia in the line up at the same time.
 

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Mookie was a second baseman until the Red Sox called him up. He moved to OF so they could have him and Pedroia in the line up at the same time.
I know, but he hadn't played 2B in years when the Dodgers asked him to move back for some starts. The point is he got his bag and embraces his salary as a responsibility to do what the team needs. Dubois got his bag and withered away.
 
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My response was to a post about why would a rebuilding Kings team would want to buyout PLD. His spot would be filled by a cheap contract (rookie/journeyman) so there would be savings of roughly 6 million in cash saved next season alone. There is zero reason to keep PLD.
Also why the hell would you want a player like PLD around your rebuild. His lack of effort will cause a rift in the locker room, just watch. And if it doesn't then you have to wonder does anyone want to win in that locker room.

Get this bum out of the locker room and his lazy azz play away from Byfield and all the other talented youth.
 

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It has been said before but the thing that gets me the most about PLD is he is identical to the player that was on the Jets or the Blue Jackets. There is no difference to how he is playing now to when he played with them. Sure, he got dragged to higher point totals tied to some insane linemates, but he was never the driver of offense or the creator of plays. The trade and his performance are damning evidence against this organization's plan, competence, decision-making, and assessment.

They bought him as if he was the missing piece to get them over the hill to the cup and decided to roll the dice like Vegas on goaltending because they were so top-heavy and had an okay defense. It was a "f*** it" all-in move you make when you're overly committed and it is boom or bust time, but it wasn't. It was getting close because Blake backed himself into that corner after acquiring the likes of Avridsson, Danault, and Fiala - which weren't horrible moves individually - but definitely didn't work the way they intended and stunted an already stalling player development program. They didn't develop anyone in the lineup practically. Byfield, Anderson, and Spence are pretty much all they have to show from their "trove" of prospects, and the rest they have either panic sold to other teams for veterans or banished them for the same veterans.

It is just an utter failure top to bottom and needs to be answered for. If Blake is still here come July, it will be mind-boggling and infuriating.
 

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A good example of Dubois' antithesis is Mookie Betts. Dude has moved from OF to 2B to the hardest defensive position in baseball because the team needed him to, and he's embraced it bc he actually prefers more responsibility. He's already signed his lifetime deal.
In 2011 after Lombardi signed Justin Williams to an extension, JW did an interview and said something to the effect of "Now I'm going to make Dean Lombardi look like a really smart GM".

And that's exactly what he did. If someone shows faith in you (Williams had some injury issues in previous seasons), you make an effort to show how thankful you are.

I wish I could find the interview clip.

PLD apparently doesn't give a shit that he's going to get the front office that showed faith in him fired.
 

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Okay, so apparently the Kings are getting paid $7 million by Quebec City to run two preseason games next October.

Dubois and Danault are the only Francophones on the roster.

Hmm...
 
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tbrown33

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In 2011 after Lombardi signed Justin Williams to an extension, JW did an interview and said something to the effect of "Now I'm going to make Dean Lombardi look like a really smart GM".

And that's exactly what he did. If someone shows faith in you (Williams had some injury issues in previous seasons), you make an effort to show how thankful you are.

I wish I could find the interview clip.

PLD apparently doesn't give a shit that he's going to get the front office that showed faith in him fired.
You'd think that at the very least that even the possibility of a buy out would motivate him.
 

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My response was to a post about why would a rebuilding Kings team would want to buyout PLD. His spot would be filled by a cheap contract (rookie/journeyman) so there would be savings of roughly 6 million in cash saved next season alone. There is zero reason to keep PLD.
Not disagreeing with you at all about that.
 

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Hard to ignore the daily train wreck comments.

Especially moving my frozen finger out of the air to my keyboard.

PLD is going nowhere and he may not be happy with his linemates and 3rd line slot.

He needs better linemates and more minutes.

Even though he has not earned it for most of the games, I would bump PLD up with Kopitar and Kempe, and but Byfield at 2c , especially if Danault is still out.

Byfield has also been not that good lately. Swap the two biggest problems.
If Danault comes back, put Byfield at 3c.

Dubois - Kopitar - Kempe
Fiala -Danault (or Byfield) - Arvidsson
Moore - Byfield (or Thomas) -Kaliyev
Lewis - Lizotte - Lewis

I would argue the Kigs need more goals recently, so you have to deploy players that can create offense further up the lineup.
 
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Has a new guy that people were (or were told to be) excited about ever been hated this much since Roenick? At least he only had one year left on his deal.

As for buyouts, woah boy has Blake been good at spending Phil's money.

Stevens
Phaneuf
Kovalchuk
T-Mac
Petersen (not a firing our buy out but holy shit)

Don't forget paying Provorov to not play for us!

Can't think of anyone who has done less with more
 

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