LeBrun: Dubois wants out of Winnipeg, will not sign a contract for next season

[GoldenBearHockey]

Does anyone want to pay PLD to be a 3c? Not sure I like it in terms of cap management.

He'd only be 3C until Kopitar leaves, then he's part of a 1A/1B with Danault or if Byfield finally shows something..him.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Does anyone want to pay PLD to be a 3c? Not sure I like it in terms of cap management.

Between Fiala & Vilardi on the 3rd line?

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Does Boston make sense

About as much as punching yourself in the groin.

Hopefully they trade him soon so this ends and we can all go on with our lives.

 

[glr1926]

Cap seems pretty tough given that they still need to address GK as well. May be looking at multiple trades, or a three-teamer to move some other pieces out.

Would WPG want Arvidsson since he's a pending UFA? Iafallo might make more sense since he has term. But I still think Arvy would also need to be moved to clear enough cap to get a decent goalie and ice a full team.

 

[Buffdog]

Cap seems pretty tough given that they still need to address GK as well. May be looking at multiple trades, or a three-teamer to move some other pieces out.

Would WPG want Arvidsson since he's a pending UFA? Iafallo might make more sense since he has term. But I still think Arvy would also need to be moved to clear enough cap to get a decent goalie and ice a full team.

Jets can take them both if the other pieces coming back are the right ones. We could even include some cheaper options going the other way like Harkins, Appleton or Barron

 

[Pablo El Perro]

Between Fiala & Vilardi on the 3rd line?

Not saying it would be a weak 3rd line. Just don't if paying PLD to be on your third line is smart team management in a cap world.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

A trade involving Dubois for Byfield makes a lot of sense for both parties.

Do mean Winnipeg and the Jets? Because that doesn't make any sense for LA whatsoever.

Byfield is only 20, will be cost controlled throughout most of said 20s and is projected to be a stud top six player. It's far too early for LA to even consider giving up on him, not that I suspect they would.

 

[nabby12]

Do mean Winnipeg and the Jets? Because that doesn't make any sense for LA whatsoever.

Byfield is only 20, will be cost controlled throughout most of said 20s and is projected to be a stud top six player. It's far too early for LA to even consider giving up on him, not that I suspect they would.

Friedman actually speculated today that the Kings are at a crossroads with Byfield. Like Lafreniere, he hasn't exactly popped off so far in the NHL.

The Kings are in a win now mode. And Dubois is a much better player right now than Byfield, so a trade like that might not be as farfetched as you think.

 

[Fatass]

Friedman actually speculated today that the Kings are at a crossroads with Byfield. Like Lafreniere, he hasn't exactly popped off so far in the NHL.

The Kings are in a win now mode. And Dubois is a much better player right now than Byfield, so a trade like that might not be as farfetched as you think.

And it’s likely the Kings could extend Dubois too. Kopitar will be coming off the books when Dubois gets his next contract, no?

 

[MXD]

And it’s likely the Kings could extend Dubois too. Kopitar will be coming off the books when Dubois gets his next contract, no?

Dubois will be getting his next contract in a few weeks, and mostly everyone seems to agree that it will be a long term deal.

 

[Fatass]

Dubois will be getting his next contract in a few weeks, and mostly everyone seems to agree that it will be a long term deal.

Sign and trade or staying in Winnipeg?

 

[nabby12]

And it’s likely the Kings could extend Dubois too. Kopitar will be coming off the books when Dubois gets his next contract,

Sign and trade or staying in Winnipeg?

It will be a sign and trade.

Kopitar has one year left on his contract and will be a UFA next summer.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Friedman actually speculated today that the Kings are at a crossroads with Byfield. Like Lafreniere, he hasn't exactly popped off so far in the NHL.

The Kings are in a win now mode. And Dubois is a much better player right now than Byfield, so a trade like that might not be as farfetched as you think.

Friedman at no point even insinuates that LA will trade Byfield though. Which is what you were suggesting. He doesn't even mention crossroads but simply speculates that LA can't necessarily gift him a top two center spot. You're trying to conflate too different points Friedman was saying.

There's a big difference between LA being a little concerned with Byfield's development and trading him.

You mention New York and Lafreniere. Guess what player they're not trading and Ranger fans don't want to give up on yet?

Kopitar also put up more points than Dubois despite his age and hasn't really shown much in the way of decline. That isn't exactly a big incentive for LA to not only give up a haul but then turn around and pay 9M which all but guarantees they let Kopitar walk after next season.

 

[Oddbob]

May he never come to Detroit. Always wants out wherever he is so far in his career. How about just play and shut up!

 

[ole ole]

So this habs fan would be happy if the habs do not trade for PLD, not bcause he is not a good player but mtl has never really done a true rebuild, i am not a big fan of trading for dach last year and hoping it wont be another swing and a miss.

I hope the jets get a good return.

And i would like to thank all the trolls for filling my day with laughter.

Well to start since when in acquiring Dach is considered a swing and miss?
Seems you know very little about the Habs or Dach.
Now that's a swing and miss.

 

[MardyBum]

Cap seems pretty tough given that they still need to address GK as well. May be looking at multiple trades, or a three-teamer to move some other pieces out.

Would WPG want Arvidsson since he's a pending UFA? Iafallo might make more sense since he has term. But I still think Arvy would also need to be moved to clear enough cap to get a decent goalie and ice a full team.

With PLD, Hellebuyck, and maybe Scheifele too, the Jets will have a lot of cap space, and it's not like they're landing a big UFA or have an expensive RFA to re-sign.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Not saying it would be a weak 3rd line. Just don't if paying PLD to be on your third line is smart team management in a cap world.

Kopitar is 36 in August, and going into the final year of his contract. Maybe he retires in a year? Maybe he doesn't. It seems smart to plan for his replacement in any case.

 

[JTeller97]

Not saying it would be a weak 3rd line. Just don't if paying PLD to be on your third line is smart team management in a cap world.

Fiala-PLD-Vilardi would easily be 2nd line if not 1st. Danault would slide to 3C and revert back into more of a shutdown type center though I think all 3 lines would play a similar amount. The Kings really need to cut down on Kopi's minutes, 36 year old centers shouldn't be playing 25 minutes a night.

Does Kaliyev+Durzi+Iafallo+ pick get it done? Can't see the Kings moving Byfield or Clarke and I highly doubt they'd move Vilardi. Kaliyev is basically a poor man's Laine and you get a 40 pt PP2 QB in Durzi.

 

[lanky]

Friedman at no point even insinuates that LA will trade Byfield though. Which is what you were suggesting. He doesn't even mention crossroads but simply speculates that LA can't necessarily gift him a top two center spot. You're trying to conflate too different points Friedman was saying.

There's a big difference between LA being a little concerned with Byfield's development and trading him.

You mention New York and Lafreniere. Guess what player they're not trading and Ranger fans don't want to give up on yet?

Kopitar also put up more points than Dubois despite his age and hasn't really shown much in the way of decline. That isn't exactly a big incentive for LA to not only give up a haul but then turn around and pay 9M which all but guarantees they let Kopitar walk after next season.

Does Byfield become available if we're talking about Dubois + Hellebuyck + cap relief? Or is he a non-starter in your mind?

 

[Habs Halifax]

So this habs fan would be happy if the habs do not trade for PLD, not bcause he is not a good player but mtl has never really done a true rebuild, i am not a big fan of trading for dach last year and hoping it wont be another swing and a miss.

I hope the jets get a good return.

And i would like to thank all the trolls for filling my day with laughter.

Please explain why Romanov+ for Dach was a swing and a miss?

 

[Habs Halifax]

Difference in tax between Montreal and LA. If it comes down to these two teams, I don't see tax being a difference maker.

Nice to see other fand in the mix on the Dubois trade talk. It took a while. Doubt the Kings trade Byfield but it's possible. Habs won't touch that.

 

[junyab]

Habs prospects have been overrated for 20 years.

Blanket statements are easy and a way fun of rebutting conjecture.

 

[TS Quint]

Friedman at no point even insinuates that LA will trade Byfield though. Which is what you were suggesting. He doesn't even mention crossroads but simply speculates that LA can't necessarily gift him a top two center spot. You're trying to conflate too different points Friedman was saying.

There's a big difference between LA being a little concerned with Byfield's development and trading him.

You mention New York and Lafreniere. Guess what player they're not trading and Ranger fans don't want to give up on yet?

Kopitar also put up more points than Dubois despite his age and hasn't really shown much in the way of decline. That isn't exactly a big incentive for LA to not only give up a haul but then turn around and pay 9M which all but guarantees they let Kopitar walk after next season.

Fans always go down with the ship when it comes to high drafted prospects. It doesn’t make it the smart move.

 

[dukeofjive]

Well to start since when in acquiring Dach is considered a swing and miss?
Seems you know very little about the Habs or Dach.
Now that's a swing and miss.

Sure bud, still waiting to see the kid become what he was drafted to become, but thanks for being one of those hockey fans with the power to see the future.

Please explain why Romanov+ for Dach was a swing and a miss?

Because its still early in the habs re build and dach has not proven anything yet?

 

[Buffdog]

Sure bud, still waiting to see the kid become what he was drafted to become, but thanks for being one of those hockey fans with the power to see the future.


Because its still early in the habs re build and dach has not proven anything yet?

How dare you insult "Future Hall of Famer" Kirby Dach.

Do you even know how many points he was on pace for at one point last season?

Greatest player in NHL history who has never broken the 40 point plateau