LeBrun: Dubois wants out of Winnipeg, will not sign a contract for next season
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i do like PLD, sometimes lol. i think his style of play, or maybe he just didn't GAF about WPG led to some inconsistencies notably in the tail-end of each year. he's a great 2C but don't see him as a 1C on a cup-caliber team. he's failed to deliver in critical moments for the Jets when Scheifele was out from suspension or injury.
apparently he's seeking a contract b/w Larkin's 8.7M and Barzal's 9.15M. based on his career history, he's not worth that at all imo. maybe he's been sandbagging it WPG or CBJ. not sure. it's not like he hasn't had massive opportunities to produce (great wingers, pp1, top-6 mins etc).
looking at the kings line-up i just think they should be in the market for helle as a primary target than PLD. 8.5-9M for PLD and what are they doing in net? it's not like they're a bad offense last year (t-10th in GF) & team SV% was 27th.
apparently he's seeking a contract b/w Larkin's 8.7M and Barzal's 9.15M. based on his career history, he's not worth that at all imo. maybe he's been sandbagging it WPG or CBJ. not sure. it's not like he hasn't had massive opportunities to produce (great wingers, pp1, top-6 mins etc).
looking at the kings line-up i just think they should be in the market for helle as a primary target than PLD. 8.5-9M for PLD and what are they doing in net? it's not like they're a bad offense last year (t-10th in GF) & team SV% was 27th.
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That's fine. Better offer elsewhere
FSL KINGS
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If PLD & Hellebuyck @ 50% Vilardi almost had to be in the trade to make it work.
PLD alone, probably not enough to get Vilardi.
Also, get Stanley for fun.
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Buffalo didnt go nowhere with Hasek who was the greatest goalie of all time
Price has no cups
Lundqvist has no cups
thats the best 2 goalies of this past decade
even the Oilers cant win with the 2 best players in the world
its okay if you dont want him but hes not overrated at all hes great
Oh yes. I misread his contract. It would, if that $8 million is the contract, be $11 million. They could still fit it but it would take more. Also, Kopitar's $11 million comes off year after this coming one.
Again, they could fit it, but I'm not sure I'd do it. Though, Blake seems to only be interested in this year so set it on fire I guess.
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Great goalies have the ability to carry teams farther than they should be. Jets have never went anywhere with him.
The Vezina voters disagree with your assessment of goalies in this case, but if you do not like him that is no problem your opinion is as valid as mine
But sorry to go off talking about Helly in the PLD thread
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Currently, they have the following amount players on non-expiring deals counting against the cap, and roughly 7.5M of caproom :
F : 11
D : 5
G : 1
Trade Durzi and Arvidson (and add Dubois at, say, 8M, and you have 11F, 4 D and 1 G, along with 5.5M of caproom; add Hellebuyck at 50%, and you have roughly 2.5M of caproom, with still 6 skaters missing...).
ole ole
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ole ole
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He submits a list of 8 teams he wouldn't go to.
You really think that Dubois is the missing piece to the Cup?
WarriorofTime
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And you can basically guarantee Winnipeg is on there.
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Vilardi has become a fan favorite in the analytic community for his defensive game
PLD is a better playing at driving offense but is pretty marginal defensively
PLD is a better playing at driving offense but is pretty marginal defensively
Yeah I don't think you're getting both of them for Durzi and Arvidsson. I'm just pointing out that you could get them with those two clearing the space. I'm guessing you'd also need to add another part or two. Hell, add an Iafallo or Moore and now you've got 6.5M to fill 7 spots.
Durzi >> Clarke and Spence and Bjornfot (now you have your 6 D)
Arvidsson >> Kaliyev
Moore >> PLD
It can easily happen if they want it to. The biggest issue currently, and even after this hypothetical trade, is Vilardi and his new deal.
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bah god, that's winnipeg jets music
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I'd be 99% sure that Winnipeg is on that 8 team list.
I think Dubois could help push LA over the top, they're already a really good team.
No they aren't. The Kings beat up on bad teams and struggled in crunch time. Sounds a lot like their coach.
Smoke and mirrors during the regular season and get exposed during the playoffs.
The Gr8 Dane
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How is losing to a stronger team than them getting exposed.
Most hockey fans didint even have Kings making the playoffs if anything last season was a success for the kings
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As a Jets fan I would take both to make it work if needed, and I'm one that doesn't want to take much salary back if possible. The reason I would is that both contracts are relatively short, and both have some value if they also needed to be moved.
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Also of note is that Chevy seems to like multi-player trades. Both The Kane and Laine trades moved multi players. Git ‘er done Chevy!
Huh? The Kings were 6th in the conference last year and then added a PPG player in the offseason. The fact that "fans" didn't have them making they playoffs this year says something about them and their viewing habits. Pretty much all Kings fans had them making the playoffs this year.
The Kings are a middle of the road team that is not "on the cusp of winning". Their best players are on the wrong side of 30. They've traded prospects and draft picks in the hope of competing and holding onto the past.
They're first round fodder and a chance for a contending team to get into playoff shape.
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Right but there are management groups in the NHL who believe in trying to actually ice a competitive team and try to do some damage in the post season if possible. Its not all about being a contender or a tanker surely there is some middle ground here no
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I would tend to agree.
I agree and that is why i don't believe that Dubois is the missing piece for a cup win.
I think any management group that said, at the beginning of any season, "We don't think we can win the whole thing, but we think we can at least win a round" should be fired.
Now, I fully believe the Kings org thinks they can win the whole thing, but they absolutely do not have a team that is capable of doing so.
This trade (and the potential assets that would have to be moved) would be another example of it. You're upgrading your goaltending, while getting rid of depth and cap space and making more moves mandatory in another year or two. All this in the hopes of getting lucky for four rounds.
I can't think of a team that's won in the past forever that has been led by 35+ year old vets and players who weren't on the team the previous year or two. That's what Blake is banking on.
He isn't...but Blake might think he is. Actually, he's probably just hoping the guy is enough to get them into the 3rd round. He's actively trying to save his job. Last year of his deal with absolutely zero success after inheriting a 29 year old Kopitar, a 27 year old Drew Doughty, a 28 year old Jonathan Quick, and a robust farm system.
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