LeBrun: Dubois wants out of Winnipeg, will not sign a contract for next season

[Buffdog]

Re: "pace"....

Why not use stats we already have like g/60, a/60, p/60 etc... it's not like it isn't tracked

You can even sort it via even strength vs power play, etc (although you may not want to if you're a Kirby Dach fan)

Edit: obviously these stats have limitations too

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

love the pic of Dubois next to Caufield and hopefully we make that trade happen but yea that pic doesnt mean much just a few young hockey players represented by the same agent hanging out together for F1 weekend

do you guys think they talked about it tho ? like Caufield and Dubois hopefully Cole told him to tell LA to f*** off lol

 

[Habs Halifax]

Chevy bad, he didn’t accept fantasy offer on HF boards.

Habs fans do over rate their prospects. If you just keep saying every prospect is a blue chip eventually you will get one right even if it takes a decade, but overwhelmingly Habs fans have been out to lunch. That’s not talent evaluation, it’s a broken clock.

False. We are not saying every prospect is a blue chip so you are making shit up to belittle. Go away, we don't need your spins, exaggerations, and belittle narratives. They hold no value to this discussion.

 

[TS Quint]

But it does mean that when that player is in the lineup they have the same offensive impact that a player who scores 70 points in 82 games does.

The biggest difference between the 63 point player and the hypothetical 70 point player is durability, and how much value you put on those missing 9 regular season games.

Pace should only be mocked when using very small or hand picked sample sizes, like a player scoring 14 points in 18 games during the middle of the season.

For all intents and purposes, pld affects the game like a 70 point player does, and Cole caufield affects the game like a 40 goal player does

I like it. But let’s use the same criteria for each. 46 games played makes Caufield affects the game like a 40 goal player. The same period of time, 46 games played makes Dubois an 87 point player or at least affects the game as one. Habs better up the ante.

 

[BLONG7]

I like it. But let’s use the same criteria for each. 46 games played makes Caufield affects the game like a 40 goal player. The same period of time, 46 games played makes Dubois an 87 point player or at least affects the game as one. Habs better up the ante.

Sample sizes rarely work...
Look at his career to date, and you get an avg season for him is 57 points............can he reach 70 pts sure, but strange he didn't do it on a very gifted offensive team in the Jets.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I like it. But let’s use the same criteria for each. 46 games played makes Caufield affects the game like a 40 goal player. The same period of time, 46 games played makes Dubois an 87 point player or at least affects the game as one. Habs better up the ante.

Horvat had 54 pts with 31 goals in 49 games before being traded. That prorates to 90 pts and 52 goals.

Why do we need to up the ante? Because you are comparing Caufield's prorated stats to Dubois and not Horvat? Your line of reasoning is basically cherry picking what suits your narrative.

We have our multiple offers in place. You don't have to like it but it's pretty clear at this point in time. We are interested but not desperate. Our offers will be similar to the Trouba and Horvat trades. Deal with it.

 

[Hookslide]

Eh I'd disagree, I want PLD don't get me wrong but a bunch of players hanging out together, all represented by the same agent doesn't mean all that much, IIRC Caufield and PLD skated together in the summer last year

Eichel hung around and works out with Bruins players , does that mean he will be a Bruin in time............doubt it

 

[Kurrilino]

love the pic of Dubois next to Caufield and hopefully we make that trade happen but yea that pic doesnt mean much just a few young hockey players represented by the same agent hanging out together for F1 weekend

do you guys think they talked about it tho ? like Caufield and Dubois hopefully Cole told him to tell LA to f*** off lol

Yes please

 

[tbcwpg]

At most 8 days until this annoying saga is over.

 

[Guffman]

We have our multiple offers in place. You don't have to like it but it's pretty clear at this point in time. We are interested but not desperate. Our offers will be similar to the Trouba and Horvat trades. Deal with it.

This guy acts like he's the actual GM lol. I am not surprised he put me on ignore last summer after I beat him down on even worse proposals ("Fine, we'll just get him for for free. No deal!").

There will be a lot of crow to be eaten when this is all said and done. I certainly expect to not be the one to be dining on it.

One more week, kids! If you haven't given your proposals yet, get them in now but it comes with a risk... you will either look like a genius or a .

If Chevy sends him off to Montreal for Florida's 1st, Dvorak and one of their B prospects, you guys can tear into me.

 

[nhlfan9191]

This guy acts like he's the actual GM lol. I am not surprised he put me on ignore last summer after I beat him down on even worse proposals ("Fine, we'll just get him for for free. No deal!").

There will be a lot of crow to be eaten when this is all said and done. I certainly expect to not be the one to be dining on it.

One more week, kids! If you haven't given your proposals yet, get them in now but it comes with a risk... you will either look like a genius or a .

If Chevy sends him off to Montreal for Florida's 1st, Dvorak and one of their B prospects, you guys can tear into me.

There’s a very good chance you will be dining on crow with your takes my friend. Lol

 

[SCP Guy]

love the pic of Dubois next to Caufield and hopefully we make that trade happen but yea that pic doesnt mean much just a few young hockey players represented by the same agent hanging out together for F1 weekend

do you guys think they talked about it tho ? like Caufield and Dubois hopefully Cole told him to tell LA to f*** off lol

I think Cole told him .....ahh man your lucky to be going to California to get away from Canada's crappy winter weather.

 

[Guffman]

love the pic of Dubois next to Caufield and hopefully we make that trade happen but yea that pic doesnt mean much just a few young hockey players represented by the same agent hanging out together for F1 weekend

do you guys think they talked about it tho ? like Caufield and Dubois hopefully Cole told him to tell LA to f*** off lol

Caufield probably was laughing at Dach's faceoff percentage and hoped that Pierre-Luc would be his center. "I'm a small guy, Pierre-Luc! It's not like Suzuki will have my back in a scrum. Come play with me!"

 

[Habs Halifax]

if we accept your imaginary offer will you stop pretending like you are an actual gm?

You're focusing on a poster with this BS. If you are here on these boards, you are acting like a GM. Give your head a shake with your belittle attempt. Some of you are only making yourself look bad with that approach.

Reality check, everything you see here is guesses from fans. I'll wait to see how you react now. You have choices to make

 

[Guffman]

There’s a very good chance you will be dining on crow with your takes my friend. Lol

We shall see! It would be fun if he does go to Montreal for the direct comparatives. If he goes to LA, it won't nearly be as fun.

 

[Snowman]

This guy acts like he's the actual GM lol. I am not surprised he put me on ignore last summer after I beat him down on even worse proposals ("Fine, we'll just get him for for free. No deal!").

There will be a lot of crow to be eaten when this is all said and done. I certainly expect to not be the one to be dining on it.

One more week, kids! If you haven't given your proposals yet, get them in now but it comes with a risk... you will either look like a genius or a .

If Chevy sends him off to Montreal for Florida's 1st, Dvorak and one of their B prospects, you guys can tear into me.

He's the same guy that spent months and thousands of posts going on about how Weber for Laine was a great deal for Winnipeg back in the day. Same arguments every time, shot down hundreds of times, yet he continued to spam the thread over and over.

There really needs to be a kids thread for guys like him to play in, so the adults can discuss things rationally and logically.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Eichel hung around and works out with Bruins players , does that mean he will be a Bruin in time............doubt it

Not the same. Think about all the Montreal connections over the last year and now this. If you were Brisson and were trying to negotiate a sign/trade with one of the other 5 teams, I don't think this helps. Eichel was not connected to any team like Dubois was with the Habs. Not the same situation.

How well do you think Dubois and Caufield really know each other? I don't know. Anybody have information on that? Seems like a weird time for them to be hanging out to me.

 

[Guffman]

If Dubois is traded to Montreal, will the page count announcing it eventually exceed this thread's page count?

 

[Colezuki]

Yes please

lol dont you know, the kings are giving up Vilardi or Byfield, you should be excited!

 

[nhlfan9191]

We shall see! It would be fun if he does go to Montreal for the direct comparatives. If he goes to LA, it won't nearly be as fun.

All I’m saying is keep your appetite up because I’ll be certainly here to spoon feed you that crow myself. I will say, I’m interested myself to see how this ends gives the non stop talk.

 

[gojetsgo]

You're focusing on a poster with this BS. If you are here on these boards, you are acting like a GM. Give your head a shake with your belittle attempt. Some of you are only making yourself look bad with that approach.

lol, no most people don't act like they are an actual gm or have any control over the situation. I think you are the one making yourself look bad with the "We have our multiple offers in place. You don't have to like it but it's pretty clear at this point in time. We are interested but not desperate." type posts.

 

[Colezuki]

If Dubois is traded to Montreal, will the page count announcing it eventually exceed this thread's page count?

We usually fizzle out around 100pgs and then an extra 20 over the next 5+ years

 

[Habs Halifax]

lol, no most people don't act like they are an actual gm or have any control over the situation. I think you are the one making yourself look bad with the "We have our multiple offers in place. You don't have to like it but it's pretty clear at this point in time. We are interested but not desperate." type posts.

Sorry, I pass. You're too focused on belittling vs talking about the actual hockey subject. I have a firm opinion and you have a problem with it. Deal with it better than how you are managing that right now.

Several Habs fans have posted multiple trade packages with all sorts of different values. We are interested but not desperate. Not sure why that is hard to comprehend. I think you are frustrated with the hole situation and I don't blame you but don't blame that on us. Your GM created this situation by thinking Dubois would stay when he traded for him.

 

[Baksfamous112]

If Dubois is traded to Montreal, will the page count announcing it eventually exceed this thread's page count?

It is getting less likely by the day that he’s going to Montreal after all. Today article from Basu pretty much killed that idea. Not only is Montreal not willing to give up Dach but they also don’t want to pay PLD 9M per. They would be open to a similar contract that Hintz got but they are not comfortable giving more.

Hughes also wants to build a package around Dvorak, Anderson and picks. That doesn’t seems like the kind of news you would expect to hear if you want PLD to go to Montreal

 

[EveryDay]

At most 8 days until this annoying saga is over.

Why 8 days?