LeBrun: Dubois wants out of Winnipeg, will not sign a contract for next season

[Guffman]

Yeah, and how much respect are those posters getting when they post it?

Not much at all.

It’s just amusing that most Hab fan promote pace when talking about Dach and Dvorak, while you don’t when talking about Suzuki vs Dubois.

 

[ffh]

Almost 3300 posts. With no trade yet. Lol

 

[TS Quint]

Imagine how you would feel today if you took the Caufield, 1st, + offer we made for Laine back a few years ago? Remember when it was called spare parts? "Habs overrate our prospects"

I know you guys like Chevy but he deserves heat for taking that risks of trading Laine/Rost thinking Dubois will stay.

I hope that it is a Habs/Jets trade and whatever we give you, ends up turning into good assets. We will see how it plays out. I think Dubois does get traded before draft or on draft day.

Chevy bad, he didn’t accept fantasy offer on HF boards.

Habs fans do over rate their prospects. If you just keep saying every prospect is a blue chip eventually you will get one right even if it takes a decade, but overwhelmingly Habs fans have been out to lunch. That’s not talent evaluation, it’s a broken clock.

 

[Baksfamous112]

Not much at all.

It’s just amusing that most Hab fan promote pace when talking about Dach and Dvorak, while you don’t when talking about Suzuki vs Dubois.

Dach has an excellent pace. Suzuki likes to slow down the play and doesn’t play with a lot of pace.

Almost 3300 posts. With no trade yet. Lol

Expect another 1k post or so. This trade isn’t being completed before draft day

 

[lomiller1]

You can pretend pace means something, then you have to calculate Dubois’s pace the second half of the year in which he wouldn’t have hit 70 points with the way he was playing.

If we don't "pretend" pace means something Cole Caufield is a 40 point player, you can't have it both ways.

 

[Chadstudsky]

From left to right: PLD, Caufield, Subban, Hughes and Zegras. It was this weekend at the Grand Prix in Montreal.


it’s not photoshopped…it’s from PK Instagram

Who's the two in the back? They look so familiar

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Who's the two in the back? They look so familiar

on the article that i saw it said the guy behind Caufield was a NYI scout forgot the name but they didnt talk about the other one on the left

Caufield,Zegras,Dubois and Hughes are all represented by Brisson ( who was also at F1 ) he probably all got them tickets Dubois is always in Montreal in the summer and Zegras Hughes are very close with Cole so he probably invited them

 

[TS Quint]

That has nothing to do with his term

Yes, the lack of teams involved hurts his value, but that's a separate issue

At the same time, it only takes 2 teams to have a bidding war if they're the right teams

You would also have to ask if there were even 5-6 teams in on Horvat. Who knows, maybe there were only one or two. Just looking at cap space alone eliminates a lot of the league During the season.

 

[TS Quint]

You’re also talking about a player who has all but refused to play another game for the Jets and limited the number of teams he’s willing to extend with. He’s also a player that , fairly or not, has gotten a reputation of quitting on his team.

The Jets refused to let Copp play another game for them past the trade deadline. It was well known much like most rentals.He was shipping out to the best offer. There’s no difference. This is a stupid way to try and devalue a player in anfantasy trade.

 

[Whileee]

 

[Captain97]

I'm sorry but with PLD hanging with Canadiens in Montreal + publicly being on social media all over the city definitely feels like he has picked a spot.

Hughes and Zegras were with Caufield and Subban as well. But they've been friends with Caufield for a long time, PLD seems like the odd man out.

 

[nhlfan9191]

If we don't "pretend" pace means something Cole Caufield is a 40 point player, you can't have it both ways.

I’ve never given Caufield the official label of a 40 goal scorer. And we aren’t talking about Caufield.

 

[Buffdog]

I'm sorry but with PLD hanging with Canadiens in Montreal + publicly being on social media all over the city definitely feels like he has picked a spot.

Hughes and Zegras were with Caufield and Subban as well. But they've been friends with Caufield for a long time, PLD seems like the odd man out.

Andrew Ladd was just in Manitoba for a Jets sponsored fishing trip with Blake Wheeler

Must mean nes ready to sign a new long term contract here

You do know PLD lives in MTL in the offseason and as was mentionned, shares the same agent as the other guys...

 

[Chadstudsky]

I'm sorry but with PLD hanging with Canadiens in Montreal + publicly being on social media all over the city definitely feels like he has picked a spot.

Hughes and Zegras were with Caufield and Subban as well. But they've been friends with Caufield for a long time, PLD seems like the odd man out.

Eh I'd disagree, I want PLD don't get me wrong but a bunch of players hanging out together, all represented by the same agent doesn't mean all that much, IIRC Caufield and PLD skated together in the summer last year

 

[Jeune Poulet]

I'm sorry but with PLD hanging with Canadiens in Montreal + publicly being on social media all over the city definitely feels like he has picked a spot.

Hughes and Zegras were with Caufield and Subban as well. But they've been friends with Caufield for a long time, PLD seems like the odd man out.

It's F1 week-end in Montreal. This is basically one of the most prestigious sporting event in North America along with the superbowl. A full week of basically great parties, food and women for rich young men.

I agree that the pics are not entirely innocent. But I don't think they indicate he has made a choice.

 

[Buffdog]

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Caufield and PLD look pretty friendly

Who is the 12 year old boy beside PLD?

 

[Baksfamous112]

Who is the 12 year old boy beside PLD?

Future hall of famer Cole Goalfield. I think he’s draft eligible in 2027

 

[Frank Drebin]

These "pace" arguments that have been popping up recently make my head explode. Scoring 63 points in 73 games doesn't ahkshually mean you're a 70 point player.

But it does mean that when that player is in the lineup they have the same offensive impact that a player who scores 70 points in 82 games does.

The biggest difference between the 63 point player and the hypothetical 70 point player is durability, and how much value you put on those missing 9 regular season games.

Pace should only be mocked when using very small or hand picked sample sizes, like a player scoring 14 points in 18 games during the middle of the season.

For all intents and purposes, pld affects the game like a 70 point player does, and Cole caufield affects the game like a 40 goal player does

 

[Qwijibo]

Almost 3300 posts. With no trade yet. Lol

Post count has zero baring on trade status. Imagine that

 

[Captain97]

Eh I'd disagree, I want PLD don't get me wrong but a bunch of players hanging out together, all represented by the same agent doesn't mean all that much, IIRC Caufield and PLD skated together in the summer last year

You missed the other half of my comment? He's been all over Montreal social media this week. Charities + Events.

 

[Heldig]

I'm sorry but with PLD hanging with Canadiens in Montreal + publicly being on social media all over the city definitely feels like he has picked a spot.

Hughes and Zegras were with Caufield and Subban as well. But they've been friends with Caufield for a long time, PLD seems like the odd man out.

Excepting the fact he lives in Montreal in the offseason.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Excepting the fact he lives in Montreal in the offseason.

Yeah there's not much to see here , they are all about the same age and play in the NHL, Montreal Canadiens and hockey USA connection forming like voltron in a hockey city during a globally renown event,nothing to see, probably all hung out during the draft in Montreal last year too. Obviously Brisson is pushing Dubois to post a bunch of these pics right now though lol

 

[Chadstudsky]

You missed the other half of my comment? He's been all over Montreal social media this week. Charities + Events.

You could be right, but I need to see more before getting my hopes up

 

[Guffman]

These "pace" arguments that have been popping up recently make my head explode. Scoring 63 points in 73 games doesn't ahkshually mean you're a 70 point player.

But it does mean that when that player is in the lineup they have the same offensive impact that a player who scores 70 points in 82 games does.

The biggest difference between the 63 point player and the hypothetical 70 point player is durability, and how much value you put on those missing 9 regular season games.

Pace should only be mocked when using very small or hand picked sample sizes, like a player scoring 14 points in 18 games during the middle of the season.

For all intents and purposes, pld affects the game like a 70 point player does, and Cole caufield affects the game like a 40 goal player does

Durability is important. If a player regularly misses 15 games/year, what is the production of the back-up players moving up in the lineup? It definitely will not be on par as the pace of the player that is out of the line-up.

Yes, when they are in the line-up, they have their pace impact but they create a hole in the line-up when they are unavailable.

I lose confidence in pace when a player establishes their lack of durability over a few years but still recognize their impact when they are actually playing.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

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Caufield and PLD look pretty friendly

They look a little more than friendly. Instantly though of Vito from Sopranos in the Club with that hat, lol....