LeBrun: Dubois wants out of Winnipeg, will not sign a contract for next season

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Barron (NHL ready RD)
Harris (NHL ready LD/RD... he can play both sides)
Mesar (former late 1st rounder and probably not NHL ready for 1 or 2 years)
NHL contract (one of Dvorak, Edmundson, or Armia)

Jets can try to get young NHL ready centers from the Helle/Scheifele trades.
#31 + Barron + Beck/Mesar. Unless the NHL contract expires in June 2024, forget about adding one to the deal without another 1st rounder or equivalent being added to the mix.

Harris has zero value to us, he isn't cracking our top 6 regardless of which side he plays on. If you find him more valuable than that, keep him.
 
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I don't think anybody wants to touch $9M+. $8M - $8.5M in a growing cap is fair to me.

It's possible that Brisson/Dubois can get $9M+ if that's what they are after but in that case, they need to sign a one year RFA deal and also have a good season next year. Then he is UFA in the summer of 24 and the cap for 24/25 is surely going to be closer to $90M. Things will change with a higher cap but fans today can't see it.

If the cap is closer to $90M and growing - then yeah 8M, 8.5M would definitely make sense.

And then, IF his wish is really to play for Montreal while being aware of the media circus, then that would definitely be a plus in my books.
 
Barron (NHL ready RD)
Harris (NHL ready LD/RD... he can play both sides)
Mesar (former late 1st rounder and probably not NHL ready for 1 or 2 years)
NHL contract (one of Dvorak, Edmundson, or Armia)

Jets can try to get young NHL ready centers from the Helle/Scheifele trades.
Replace Harris with one of your other forward prospects (Kidney? Ferrell?) and I would say that is a very good offer.
 
There were no reports that he was asking for that much. Why even hypothesize about it? JFC
Actually, there were:

But this is probably more a speculation with comparables than a report.

On that note, were there any credible reports that other teams are seriously on him ?
That Byfield or Vilardi are offered ?

Huh. Dach still seems like quite a dud. I don’t even know what to ask for anymore with their decimated roster.

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Glad you think Dach is a dud, we will gladly keep him.
Why go so hard on devaluing him when you actually want him so bad in that trade ?
My opinion: He will not be offered. Close to untouchable. Especially at the value you put on him.
 
No deal I guess. Ill take the chances of 2024 UFA PLD.
He'll be signed to an 8 year extension this summer with his new team so that won't be an option. You'll be looking at 2032, but he may still have some gas left in the tank at 33 years old
 
If LA does not step up with a nice offer this may be the best type of offer the Habs put on the table
If LA does not step up, Montreal doesn't offer close to that. The clock is ticking till draft day, after that there is no Florida pick to offer. No indication from any source that Dubois is a priority for Montreal management, so if no LA involved I would be shocked if Winnipeg winds up with much of value for Dubois. Do people really expect them to bid against themselves?
 
Dubois seems like such a dork.

I dont think I would trade for him if I was another team. Just sign him as a UFA.

Sucks for Winnipeg though. I wonder if there even getting decent offers for him.
 
#31 + Barron + Beck/Mesar. Unless the NHL contract expires in June 2024, forget about adding one to the deal without another 1st rounder or equivalent being added to the mix.

Harris has zero value to us, he isn't cracking our top 6 regardless of which side he plays on. If you find him more valuable than that, keep him.

31
Barron
Mesar
Hoffman 1 year at 4.5

Call it a deal.
 
See, that's a reasonable offer from a Habs fan.

Depending on what else is offered, I'd take that deal
Didn't we have a deal at page 107 ?

Barron, FLA1st, Kidney and Dvo ?

Hurts to let go an NHL ready RHD, but we can trade down our 5thOV, and draft Reinbacher à 8... Recouping an asset...
 
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Replace Harris with one of your other forward prospects (Kidney? Ferrell?) and I would say that is a very good offer.

That's workable with me. Not sure with other Habs fans.

* I think Harris and Farrell are equal talent in value. But if you want Farrell over Harris, sure.

* Kidney is a undersized center but putting up some real top notch numbers in the Q. Hard to say where he tops out at but I see 1 or 2 AHL seasons before we know.

* Barron is the prime piece. We are not really deep at RD but I if we are able to keep Beck and Panthers 1st, I think I do it.

* Mesar is another grade B+ type prospect that could develop into a top 6F. Too early to tell.
 
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Not if Dvorak is involved…
Other than you, this offer was the first that was vastly agreed on from both fan bases.
You get a young NHL ready top4 RHD and a 2023 1st round pick, and you get a 100pts C B prospect turning pro to take cap back in the deal... I mean, it sounds pretty much a win/win deal...

+, you will need Dvorak if PLD and Sheiffle are dealt...
 
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Not if Dvorak is involved…

Sorry to say it but any team trading for Dubois will be sending a NHL contract and that contract won't be a Dach type. Maybe the Kings cough up Vilardi. Hard to say on that.

What are you plans at center if Both Dubois and Scheifele is traded this summer? Sign a UFA to both AAV/Term you rather not?

If not Dvorak, it will be one of Armia, Hoffman, or Eddy from the Habs.

Other than you, this offer was the first that was vastly agreed on from both fan bases.
You get a young NHL ready top4 RHD and a 2023 1st round pick, and you get a 100pts C B prospect turning pro to take cap back in the deal... I mean, it sounds pretty much a win/win deal...

+, you will need Dvorak if PLD and Sheiffle are dealt...

If that trades goes through, Jets fans will be saying the same thing after the fact, but today, they see it but won't acknowledge it.

Dvorak is not a bad contract and he's a good 3C. Jets may have to play him at 2C and also find another C. Maybe Toews comes home. If all of Scheifele, Helle, and Dubois are traded, Jets will be in a mini rebuild or transition for a year or two. Reality! And Dvorak is a good stop gap piece vs having to sign someone else to 4/5 years at a AAV you rather not in free agency.

To be fair, Jets fans are just like the Habs. They are not united and I do think many Jets fans see our point.
 
Glad you think Dach is a dud, we will gladly keep him.
Why go so hard on devaluing him when you actually want him so bad in that trade ?
My opinion: He will not be offered. Close to untouchable. Especially at the value you put on him.


Montreal only has middling prospects that are on the table. In terms of roster players, Dach is the only one of value that could plausibility be traded. Would I take him if he was the central piece of a Montreal trade? Yes. I would just prefer we trade with another team.
 
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What do you think? Considering in the poll on the Habs board about 65% don't want to trade for Dubois at all.

With all due respect, I really don't care about popular bandwagon narratives on the internet. I'm pretty sure the Jets and Habs are in serious talks and Gorton/Hughes will engage. It will happen if the trade and contract fits. It won't happen if the trade cost is too high and/or the contract is too high.

Pretty sure if someone posted a Romanov+ trade for Dach before it happened, 65% of Habs fans would have tried to acquire Dach for less value. :nod:
 
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Sounds inevitable that the discussion will be centered on Barron + Fla 31st, involving a B prospect and cap back, this last part might vary... And we will probably not care.

It will be interesting to see if HF was close...
 
Other than you, this offer was the first that was vastly agreed on from both fan bases.
You get a young NHL ready top4 RHD and a 2023 1st round pick, and you get a 100pts C B prospect turning pro to take cap back in the deal... I mean, it sounds pretty much a win/win deal...

+, you will need Dvorak if PLD and Sheiffle are dealt...
We will never need Dvorak.
If both Scheif and PLD are dealt, we will need a top 6 C.. which Dvorak isn’t even close to being.
No Dvorak or No Deal… he does nothing for the Jets
 
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