LeBrun: Dubois wants out of Winnipeg, will not sign a contract for next season

[Qwijibo]

I can’t wait until this gong show is over. I honestly don’t care where PLD ends up. I just don’t want Montréal overpaying for a guy with his red flags.

 

[gojetsgo]

He's probably right tho



You wish, but I don't think so

well considering the guy that said he thinks it's "95%" has seemed to have changed his tune on that it seems as you are the one that is wishing

 

[Bouboumaster]

well considering the guy that said he thinks it's "95%" has seemed to have changed his tune on that it seems as you are the one that is wishing

We'll see in the next few weeks but I'd be surprised if Dubois isn't a Montréal Canadiens before the beginning of the next season

 

[Hunter368]

well considering the guy that said he thinks it's "95%" has seemed to have changed his tune on that it seems as you are the one that is wishing

I don’t specifically care where he goes, only care about the return and LA has much nicer pieces to offer so hopefully it’s LA

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

In terms of finances, the Kings will have to move the contracts of Iafallo, Durzi and Lizotte to make it work, but that package isn’t landing you a top six forward. That’s where they have to entertain the thought of moving Kaliyev and possibly another promising prospect such as Chromiak.

A top nine of:
Byfield-Kopitar-Kempe
Fiala-Dubois-Vilardi
Moore-Danault-Arvidsson

That would probably give LA the deepest top 9 in the West.

 

[Caroline Says ll]

If Anderson didn't have the little flaws you are talking about, he would be worth a $7M Power forward rate. Because he is not a perfect forward, fans dwell on it and lower him down to a $4M or less player. Truth is in the middle usually and it applies in this case.

Anderson is paid fairly for what he does. He's also that type you want on your roster for the playoffs. He's valued by our management and around 50% of our fan base.

Those flaws are not little. The craziest thing is every time this argument gets brought up these vague generalities get brought up how he is "built" for playoff hockey, or his impact is off the score sheet.

Pucks die in his possession. This is a player that has played the majority on the second or first line of Montreal the past two years, has played 69 games both seasons, averaged 17 minutes TOI and been typically on the 2nd PP unit. Yet somehow, he has only managed 11 and 13 assists for those two years and even despite this reputation for goal scoring only managed to scrape to 20 goals one of those two years.

What these stats point to is an inability to continue offence past the rush chances. He cannot extend plays. He does not grind in the cycle. He has little to no vision and somehow can't even muster enough secondary assists to be respectable. Overall he doesn't have the skills to be a useful addition to any respectable team at the top of their lineup and has little to no versatility to be useful in the bottom - especially making 5.5.

 

[howkie]

In terms of finances, the Kings will have to move the contracts of Iafallo, Durzi and Lizotte to make it work, but that package isn’t landing you a top six forward. That’s where they have to entertain the thought of moving Kaliyev and possibly another promising prospect such as Chromiak.

A top nine of:
Byfield-Kopitar-Kempe
Fiala-Dubois-Vilardi
Moore-Danault-Arvidsson

That would probably give LA the deepest top 9 in the West.

If i was cheavy i would take back arvidsson since he is rumored to be on the block. Tell Arvid, play hard and we sell you to a contender near deadline and tell him he can have an input of destination, so keeps his Morales high, and addinng pieces from LA on top of that. Doubt we intresserad in Durzi.

 

[Omar]

I know what he was saying but how he said it made him look silly, even his peers mocked him comment that’s embarrassing

What if LA came in after? Don’t be childish

 

[gojetsgo]

What if LA came in after? Don’t be childish

he made the claim when the regular season was still going on lol

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

I don’t specifically care where he goes, only care about the return and LA has much nicer pieces to offer so hopefully it’s LA

LA does not have better pieces. Most of the players they would offer have flaws. Turcotte (glass body) for example. Habs likely won't move the players they have that would be better acquisitions though.

 

[larmex99]

What if LA came in after? Don’t be childish

Then he suffers from premature conjectulation.

 

[Whileee]

I stand by that also. Harris played a lot better than Romanov did before he was traded.

But 13Oa last year is worth a pick around 20 this year. The D man you pick at 20, you can only hope becomes as good as Harris as been at 22 playing top4 on a shit team.

Okay, I have an idea. First the Habs trade Harris for a top-20 pick (2023), then include that pick in any trade proposal instead of Harris.

 

[FerrisRox]

“Tons of risks” lmao It automatically becomes 4 of your 5 best under 27 pieces and maybe even your 5 most valuable since Pefertti is really struggling both offensively and defensively and could very well flop

Wow.

This is a really embarrassing take.

To be clear, this is this person's opinion; it is entirely his own opinion and it is not reflective, in anyway, of the Canadiens fan base as whole.

This take would be mocked and ridiculed by any level headed Canadiens fan and in no way, shape or form is this clueless take a representation of Canadiens fans as a whole on HFBoards.

So much for 95% chance of Dubois going to Montreal.

Do you struggle with numbers and math problems?

95 percent chance of going to Montreal means 5 percent chance of going elsewhere, so could you explain why the notion of him going some place other than Montreal suddenly makes the 95 percent claim false?

 

[Mersss]

Okay, I have an idea. First the Habs trade Harris for a top-20 pick (2023), then include that pick in any trade proposal instead of Harris.

Not our job to do so. Thats your GMs job. We like Harris, he's expandable, but worse case we keep him and are more than happy with a very good 2nd pairing 2way D

 

[Buffdog]

Not our job to do so. Thats your GMs job. We like Harris, he's expandable, but worse case we keep him and are more than happy with a very good 2nd pairing 2way D

When was the last time you can remember a GM trading for an asset they didn't want, just to have to go through the work of trading that asset to recoup value?

I can't think of a single instance. In other words, what you're suggesting isn't a real thing

GM A: hi there, we'd like to aquire your really good player

GM B: I'm listening, what do you have to offer

GM A: well, a bunch of stuff that probably has some value, so you can take it and resell it on the market. This one is a LHD

GM B: well, we already have 6 LHD and we're already trying to move at least one or two of them

Gm A: not my problem... so are doing this or what?

GM B: *click*

 

[Hunter368]

What if LA came in after? Don’t be childish

Exactly, your exact post proves why his comment was so dumb. It was dumb

 

[Hunter368]

LA does not have better pieces. Most of the players they would offer have flaws. Turcotte (glass body) for example. Habs likely won't move the players they have that would be better acquisitions though.

We have no idea who will move what, but LA easily has better pieces for the Jets then the Habs, whether they move them or not who knows. Love it, LA has some great pieces if the two teams make it happen.

 

[Hunter368]

Then he suffers from premature conjectulation.

Exactly, does he have a crystal ball and can he predict the future? It was a silly comment by him and he would have no clue what the future holds when he made it. Of course it could still happen if the Habs out bid the other teams, but claiming 95% weeks ago was silly, even his peers mocked him for that comment bc far too many variables to claim that when he did.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Exactly, does he have a crystal ball and can he predict the future? It was a silly comment by him and he would have no clue what the future holds when he made it. Of course it could still happen if the Habs out bid the other teams, but claiming 95% weeks ago was silly, even his peers mocked him for that comment bc far too many variables to claim that when he did.

Ya putting a 95% value is ridiculously stupid and if he is wrong he deserves to be called out on as a BS artist.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Take him L.A . So our board can finally realize he used habs as leverage

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

We have no idea who will move what, but LA easily has better pieces for the Jets then the Habs, whether they move them or not who knows. Love it, LA has some great pieces if the two teams make it happen.

I am a Habs fan and I totally agree with this.

The Kings roster is filled with tradable pieces on contracts that they can move for value. All the valuable Habs pieces aside from Matheson are young players that they are not moving. Our veterans are mostly awful or highly overpaid.

As soon as it was clear that the Jets were not rebuilding and our FLA 1st rounder went from 17th to a late 1st, PLD becoming a Hab became highly unlikely unless he became a UFA in my view.

 

[Whileee]

Not our job to do so. Thats your GMs job. We like Harris, he's expandable, but worse case we keep him and are more than happy with a very good 2nd pairing 2way D

Nope. "Our GM" doesn't believe Harris is worth a top 20 pick, so he doesn't have that trade value. If you think he's worth that in a trade, prove it by acquiring the pick and trade that, because the Jets don't need more LHD.

Of course, if he's considered a core player for the Habs, keep him and don't put his name in future trade proposals.

 

[Hunter368]

I am a Habs fan and I totally agree with this.

The Kings roster is filled with tradeable pieces on contracts that they can move for value. All the valuable Habs pieces aside from Matheson are young players that they are not moving. Our veterans are mostly awful or highly overpaid.

As soon as it was clear that the Jets were not rebuilding and our FLA 1st rounder went from 17th to a late 1st, PLD becoming a Hab became highly unlikely unless he became a UFA in my view.

Agreed, Habs lost their most valuable trading chip in that Florida pick dropping to basically a 2nd rd pick. IMO if LA wants they can easily make an offer that Habs can’t even touch at this stage.

But until it’s done it’s not done, so we shall see who steps up and pays the most. Not counting the Habs out yet, but it sure just got more expensive to get PLD.

 

[Whileee]

I am a Habs fan and I totally agree with this.

The Kings roster is filled with tradeable pieces on contracts that they can move for value. All the valuable Habs pieces aside from Matheson are young players that they are not moving. Our veterans are mostly awful or highly overpaid.

As soon as it was clear that the Jets were not rebuilding and our FLA 1st rounder went from 17th to a late 1st, PLD becoming a Hab became highly unlikely unless he became a UFA in my view.

I agree. I think the #17 pick would have given the Habs a more valuable trade chip,band without it they really have a limited number of attractive trade chips.

Also, the Kings' potential vet cap adjusters (like Arvidsson) are much more attractive than Dvorak or Hoffman, both for their potential performance and their likely trade value at the 2024 trade deadline.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

LA has better pieces to trade then the Habs theres no way they trade Clarke but maybe Byfield or Vilardi for Dubois with an extension

500 pages later,over a year of talking about it and Dubois aint coming home