Confirmed with Link: Dubas the new GM - TSN

[hockeywiz542]

Kyle Dubas meets with the media after being named the 17th General Manager in team history.



Brendan Shanahan meets with the media following the announcement of naming Kyle Dubas as new General Manager.

 

[diceman934]

ya Crosby is the best ever. Is this even up for debate?

Lol not even in the top 3

 

[as Pure as Evil]

Leafs should just make Hunter the new GM of the Marlies. He'd practically be in charge of the Leafs' entire pro youth development and would still get to do pretty much anything he wants. Like what else could he want? Better title? More money? He'd get a better title by being the GM of the Marlies (or at least he'd get another title to add to like the 5 he already has) and we could easily offer him more money, especially if he's willing to take on more AGM responsibilities so the Leafs don't need to hire someone new. Other than that, he just needs to get his ego out of the way and understand that Dubas is the GM.

This is what I was thinking as well. Hunter will Now have the full duties of a assistant g.m rather then sharing half the work load with dubas. so in a point of view they both get promotions its just Dubas's is a little more glamourous. I hope Hunter stays but you never know . its been so long since we had a great drafting team it would be sad to watch it dissolve. The other thing is the leafs can give hunter gm money to stay assistant g.m . so the only reason he would leave is for personal or based on the fact he wants full control

 

[Daisy Jane]

with regards to the team needing changes or that the Leafs don't need a retread GM from yesteryear?

the retread. like retread, or brand new person - that shouldn't be the focus.
if Pittsburgh thought that way they wouldn't get Rutherford (who everyone thought was junk and living off the Carolina cup, ironically 10 years prior) - but then ripped off two cups in 3 years.

you simply need to get a person who is a fit for your organization.

 

[AllDay28]

Lol not even in the top 3

cool story. if you think people from the eras prior could even keep up with Crosby, then whats the point of arguing?

 

[Moncherry]

do you believe everything you here ?

I don't, but I know that what Shanahan says is more credible than the baseless speculation from nobodies on a terrible forum.

 

[Walshy7]

examine, or interviewed?

Examined and decided not to interview? I’m not sure he at a minimum didn’t just blindly sign dubas

 

[MattySnipes]

I don't, but I know that what Shanahan says is more credible than the baseless speculation from nobodies on a terrible forum.

Pretty much. Shanny is all class. I'd take his word all day, and twice on a Sunday.

 

[Daisy Jane]

I don't, but I know that what Shanahan says is more credible than the baseless speculation from nobodies on a terrible forum.

hey!
we're all somebody to someone

 

[diceman934]

Crosby is the goat. If he played in any other era he would embarrass it. McDavid if he continues on his career arc will be the new greatest player but he still has 10ish years to go.

Cosby is a great player but to call him the goat is so far from the true. His owner is better than him. Never mind Orr, Gretzky, Howe, Harvey. I put him around the Bobby Hull level.

 

[Suntouchable13]

I am happy about some new fresh young blood in there. I was getting tired of Lou's dinosaur ways. Really tired.

 

[djdev]

they hired who they believed was most qualified, nobody here can say whom they did or did not contact in regards to filling the vacant GM position since none of us are privy to behind the scenes in the office of shannahan. maybe they believed from day 1 that dubas was the guy, maybe they made calls and had meetings, nobody can say and they arent giving us that info.
at the end of the day, dubas has had a hand in turning around the franchise along with all the other management, how much? again none us know, and will never know. bottom line is i trust they knew more about the qualifications of the candidates being considered than anybody else outside the organization, and made the decision they believed to be best for the team going forward.

 

[Lauro]

About time, I am very excited. And glad, that these 3 years of LL didn't do much damage.

 

[Hogie Hogilthorpe]

Agreed, also if hunter is a great scout and became a gm we would need a new scout anyway. If Dubas is best for the job we replace hunter either way so why lose Dubas

Excellent post. Also, many picks could now be traded to improve this lineup so who cares who is there to make no picks anyway. This years first and second should be used to bring in defence and next years picks should be used on deadline deals to make a run. The window is now.

 

[Mess]

Shanny hired an excellent guy to execute the Shanaplan and not make any waves in the process in fulfilling Brendan's vision.

 

[IBeL34f]

cool story. if you think people from the eras prior could even keep up with Crosby, then whats the point of arguing?

I'm not sure why this is even a subject up for debate in this specific topic, but I can't deny that I'm intrigued - When you're trying to make these comparisons between different eras of history, are you assuming that Crosby would be as good as he is now if he was playing in the culture of the '60s and '70s, or are you assuming that players of the past wouldn't be as good as Crosby even if they were playing in the culture of today's NHL?

Professional athletes these days have so much more access to the nutrition and exercise breakthroughs over the past decades, as sports sciences have come a long, long way. In 1970, Crosby would've likely been huffing on a cigarette in between periods next to Guy Lafleur.

Guys like Orr, Lemieux, Gretzky, Howe would likely still be doing absolutely ridiculous things if they were athletes in their prime in 2018 instead of 25-50 years ago.

 

[Liminality]

About time, I am very excited. And glad, that these 3 years of LL didn't do much damage.

I thought he did a good job of clearing some of the roster but I don't think he did too much to add. Which might have been a design choice for the next GM, not sure.

 

[Daisy Jane]

I am happy about some new fresh young blood in there. I was getting tired of Lou's dinosaur ways. Really tired.

in regarding what?

 

[diceman934]

the retread. like retread, or brand new person - that shouldn't be the focus.
if Pittsburgh thought that way they wouldn't get Rutherford (who everyone thought was junk and living off the Carolina cup, ironically 10 years prior) - but then ripped off two cups in 3 years.

you simply need to get a person who is a fit for your organization.

It is amazing what a person can do without a cap ceiling from the owner.

 

[The CyNick]

hmm..you think? will be interesting to see their dynamic together in the coming months and years.

I believe Shanahan has a lot of respect for both individuals and admires what they bring to the Leafs. If Dubas could legitimately make a case to fire Babcock and present it to Shanahan, you'd have to think he'd consider it and then discuss it with the BOD. This is all speculation anyway. From what I've seen over the years it seems Dubas & Babcock have great respect for what each other can do. Obviously, now that they are both working directly with each other it'll be interesting to see how their relationship unfolds.

IMO, I hope Babcock stays on to finish his contract but at the same time I want them to work together because there are a lot of ideas that Dubas can enlighten Babcock on, and vice versa. It would be interesting to see if Babcock evolves a bit more or changes some of his traditional ways going forward.

One guy is in the middle of an 8 year deal for $50M the other guy is likely making close to the bottom of what GMs in the league make. One guy has won everything there is to win in hockey, the other guy's highlight on his resume is making a bad OHL team decent but never winning anything.

So yeah, the BOD will not be too receptive to Dubas coming in and saying Babs needs to go.

 

[Suntouchable13]

in regarding what?

I just did not like him. Didn't like his policies, or much of anything about him. Made a couple of good moves, but other than that didn't like him much.

 

[The CyNick]

All GM's got to start somewhere right? Dubas is more qualified than a lot more GM's who were starting out.

Don't know about that. Never played the game, has never led a department that acquires talent at an NHL level, no scouting background.

It's funny the only thing you ever hear about him is that Shanny was impressed by him. But then Shanny has no track record of success either, so I guess they fit together. Hopefully it all works out.

 

[The CyNick]

I just did not like him. Didn't like his policies, or much of anything about him. Made a couple of good moves, but other than that didn't like him much.

Aka I got nothing.

 

[Joey Hoser]

One guy is in the middle of an 8 year deal for $50M the other guy is likely making close to the bottom of what GMs in the league make. One guy has won everything there is to win in hockey, the other guy's highlight on his resume is making a bad OHL team decent but never winning anything.

So yeah, the BOD will not be too receptive to Dubas coming in and saying Babs needs to go.

Whoa... Dubas is firing Babcock? What did I miss? Why are we talking about this?

 

[The CyNick]

This is what I was thinking as well. Hunter will Now have the full duties of a assistant g.m rather then sharing half the work load with dubas. so in a point of view they both get promotions its just Dubas's is a little more glamourous. I hope Hunter stays but you never know . its been so long since we had a great drafting team it would be sad to watch it dissolve. The other thing is the leafs can give hunter gm money to stay assistant g.m . so the only reason he would leave is for personal or based on the fact he wants full control

A person like Hunter is not going to want to be GM of the Marlies. He knows that's a joke of a role. He'll look for a GM job, probably won't get one. May just end up back with London or head up another scouting department so he doesn't have to report into a toddler.