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Rants Mulliniks said:
Who said it's easy to win a Cup (other than apparently you)? The only standard I set was winning a playoff round, which Lou has managed 5 times in 16 years and you apparently think is "getting it done for decades". As stated, if you think that constitutes success, give Kyle 16 years and I suspect you'll be first in line to have his babies if that is all "success" means.

By the by, the "elite" team he inherited? Only a couple pieces on this team had anything to do with Lou and only a couple pieces on the 105 point team had anything to do with Lou.
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I said it was easy to win a cup,? quote where I said that and then I will move on past the first line in your post?
 
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I've liked most of Dubas trades. It's only rumours at this point four days before the trade deadline, but I am reading names associated with the Leafs that for me, seem to miss the mark in regards to what this team needs to complete it's lineup before the playoffs.

By this point, he is smart enough to have a good grasp about what type of characters win in the playoffs, if a team doesn't have an ample number. May he be guided by this understanding, as he was outstanding in his offseason acquisitions.

Yes, we must crawl before we walk, but I genuinely believe that this unique season is the perfect opportunity to maneuver personnel accordingly and load up on what is needed to actually aim for the Cup. This can be a Cup contending team, if this franchise finds the courage and clarity of vision.
 
Toronto Bag Head said:
why didn't you quote the post where i said its easy to win a cup ...
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Allow me to explain it to you. See what you are doing is adopting a method of debate that seems to have afflicted an entire generation of people here on HF Boards. It works like this:

Poster A makes statement X. Poster B claims Poster A made statement Y. Poster B then tries to hold Poster A responsible for statement Y, even though poster A never made statement Y. Poster B is then holding Poster A responsible not for anything Poster A ever said, rather for something Poster B themselves said. In effect they virtually end up arguing themselves.

In many cases Poster A will engage Poster B in said argument, either because they aren’t bright enough to see what Poster B did or they are easily baited. As Poster A, I am the type who calls Poster B out on their Bravo Sierra.
 
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4thline said:
The winningest of attitudes. If you're not satisfied with *mostly sucking* it must be because you prefer *completely sucking*
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I’m sure more prefer winning to losing. You’ve also not enjoyed a series win? Maybe it’s just been so long that people don’t remember or haven’t seen it.
 
ACC1224 said:
I’m sure more prefer winning to losing. You’ve also not enjoyed a series win? Maybe it’s just been so long that people don’t remember or haven’t seen it.
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I remember the Quinn era well. I remember the dissatisfaction of that kind of "winning" (aka. losing a couple days later). What I remember the most what that "winning" cost us.

Glorifying losing is such a loser thing. We want cup(s).
 
4thline said:
I remember the Quinn era well. I remember the dissatisfaction of that kind of "winning" (aka. losing a couple days later). What I remember the most what that "winning" cost us.

Glorifying losing is such a loser thing. We want cup(s).
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Yet we see Dubas perpetually celebrated despite not winning a single thing in his entire life other than a AHL cup and a hasty promotion.

Strange double standards you have :laugh:
 
4thline said:
I remember the Quinn era well. I remember the dissatisfaction of that kind of "winning" (aka. losing a couple days later). What I remember the most what that "winning" cost us.

Glorifying losing is such a loser thing. We want cup(s).
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Who is glorifying losing? :laugh: Man, this place.
 
ACC1224 said:
Who is glorifying losing? :laugh: Man, this place.
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You are.
ACC1224 said:
What Leaf fan wouldn’t be ecstatic with that?
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Is this not you, implying that since the Leafs were 100% ass from ~06-15 that we should be "ecstatic" with a period that's only 90% ass and leaves the franchise in a death spiral?

ACC1224 said:
You’ve also not enjoyed a series win? Maybe it’s just been so long that people don’t remember or haven’t seen it.
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Is this not you, romanticizing "series wins"as if they're something to be celebrated as something more than potential stepping stones to a championship?
 
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BoredBrandonPridham said:
So we agree, a mistake by Lou. Just a continuation of numerous mistakes he made with the Leafs where he blew Nylander, Matthews and Marner's ELC years with similarly bad signings.
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No mistake. People value things differently. The Islanders value Komorov for being a leader and an example for their young players. He’s a hard worker, of high character, and one of the ‘good people’ you have when you surround your organization with good people. They pay a premium to have him in their locker room, on team flights, in the hotel, dinners on the road etc etc.

That’s worth something, even if you’re too ignorant to see it.

I don’t think many people would say Tavares is one of the best 5 players in the game but Dubas paid him as such, and until he’s 34 years old. That’s wayyy too much for my liking, but Dubas has a difference of opinion. Would you call that a mistake?
 
Bomber0104 said:
Yet we see Dubas perpetually celebrated despite not winning a single thing in his entire life other than a AHL cup and a hasty promotion.

Strange double standards you have :laugh:
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He's celebrated (not the word I would use) for a promising present and the hopeful future it presents. 7 years from now if he's missed the playoffs 4 of the last 5 years and only has one finals run (as a cinderella 7 seed) and a couple quarter final wins the Dubas era will certainly not be celebrated, and no Leafs fan would be "ecstatic"
 
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4thline said:
You are.


Is this not you, implying that since the Leafs were 100% ass from ~06-15 that we should be "ecstatic" with a period that's only 90% ass and leaves the franchise in a death spiral?



Is this not you, romanticizing "series wins"as if they're something to be celebrated as something more than potential stepping stones to a championship?
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Sports fandom isn’t all the same. Many just enjoy it in the moment. A championship will make for a greater moment, but compared to missing the playoffs or losing in the first round, winning a few playoff series’ would make for greater moments and far more excitement as a fan.

You’re not talking to the board, you’re talking to people who watch for fun. Winning a series is more fun that losing it, or missing out all together.
 
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