Confirmed with Link: Draisaitl re-signs 8y 8.5M AAV

[Dashh]

lol. watch drai take a step back next year cause he got paid. dude had one good year and he's worth 8.5. yiiiiiikes

 

[McAsuno]

I think we all feel puddle.

Chrome translated the whole interview, since it was all in German. Not sure what puddle meant though

this is 100% correct... where the problem lies though, is assuming that drai is on par with the players mentioned above.... eichel, latthews, pasta, and laine are all on a different (higher) tier than drai

You make that flames fan in OKG sound brilliant.

 

[Del Preston]

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=134494927&postcount=795

I win.

 

[McTedi]

lol. watch drai take a step back next year cause he got paid. dude had one good year and he's worth 8.5. yiiiiiikes

Yup one should always assume the worst case scenario. Or one could be encouraged that we are set at center for a longtime.

 

[harpoon]

If we "lucked" into McDavid we equally "unlucked" into Yakupov and Nugent Hopkins and even Taylor Hall to a degree. In the long run trying to get elite level talent through the draft was always the right move, we were never going to win anything with the Sam Gagners and Andrew Coglianos of the world leading the team.

You just stated that three of four FOA picks didn't work out. But you still believe that tanking for the picks was the right move? And you didn't mind the ten years as league laughingstock either? Tanking for the picks was the worst strategy ever and Katz got his ass saved by the luck of the McDavid lotto ball bounce.

It wasn't the linear line we thought it was going to be, but it more or less worked out in the end.

Still haven't won a damn thing and the team is desperate to unload the previous crop of players you mentioned above for pennies on the dollar, as we overpay a new group. Tell me again how it has 'all worked out'.

 

[Soundwave]

You just stated that three of four FOA picks didn't work out. But you still believe that tanking for the picks was the right move? And you didn't mind the ten years as league laughingstock either? Tanking for the picks was the worst strategy ever and Katz got his ass saved by the luck of the McDavid lotto ball bounce.

Still haven't won a damn thing and the team is desperate to unload the previous crop of players you mentioned above for pennies on the dollar, as we overpay a new group. Tell me again how it has 'all worked out'.

Yes I do think it was the right strategy and I would do it again. The Oilers have not had the best player in hockey since 1988, they may well now, I'll take it. To be honest too they only started a scorched earth rebuild since 2010, it's regrettable that took an extra 3 years perhaps, but it was worth it.

They were never going to win the Cup doing the whole "lets pray a Marian Hossa signs here and overpay the Dustin Penner's of the world" strategy, at least they have a reasonable chance now.

The Dany Heatley thing where they had a trade completed and went to beg him to lift his NTC and made a DVD video and all that BS was the last straw for me for that strategy.

 

[harpoon]

Yes I do think it was the right strategy and I would do it again. The Oilers have not had the best player in hockey since 1988, they may well now, I'll take it. To be honest too they only started a scorched earth rebuild since 2010, it's regrettable that took an extra 3 years perhaps, but it was worth it.

They were never going to win the Cup doing the whole "lets pray a Marian Hossa signs here and overpay the Dustin Penner's of the world" strategy, at least they have a reasonable chance now.

The Dany Heatley thing where they had a trade completed and went to beg him to lift his NTC and made a DVD video and all that BS was the last straw for me for that strategy.

Nothing, and I mean nothing is worse than ten years as league laughingstock. Katz shamed the team, the city and all its fans.

You build through the draft obviously. I agree. But you damn well shouldn't need FOA picks coming out your ass in order to build a competent team that doesn't get laughed out of every rink in the league.

Sure hope the Oilers drafting ability is going to be better in years to come because with $21 million spent on two guys we are going to need some homerun picks from further down the the list than first round.

 

[Soundwave]

Nothing, and I mean nothing is worse than ten years as league laughingstock. Katz shamed the team, the city and all its fans.

You build through the draft obviously. I agree. But you damn well shouldn't need FOA picks coming out your ass in order to build a competent team that doesn't get laughed out of every rink in the league.

Sure hope the Oilers drafting ability is going to be better in years to come because with $21 million spent on two guys we are going to need some homerun picks from further down the the list than first round.

It's really just 5 years ... 2010-April 2015 was rough.

Even in that span, the Hall-Eberle-RNH Oilers were slowly but surely improving every year until they decided to fire Krueger and go with Eakins. That 2 year stretch was embarrassing.

 

[shoop]

Cap is $75M for 2017-2018

The USA TV deal will need to be renegotiated 2 years before 2022-23 and it can't possibly get any worse. With rumours of ESPN being interested they might actually have 2 networks competing against each other. Or better yet, they split the rights and they both pay.

You are right. I was off a year with the cap. Still no way it jumps to $80 million next year.

ESPN has laid off tons of staff and they are causing a drag on Disney stock. They aren't getting into a bidding war for NHL rights. Don't even know if I believe they can pay much at all for NHL rights.

I don't think its far fetched to assume the Salary cap will be increasing regardless of the TV deal though. It goes up every single year (except the lockout shortened season). 5 different times the cap went up by about $5M.

In the next 8 years I wouldn't be surprised to see the cap go up to $100M or more. A lot depends on the Canadian $ and USA TV deal though so its far from guaranteed but at this point I would say it is more likely to hit $100M than not.

06-07 to 07-08 is once and 07-08 to 08-09 is twice. Those are the only times the cap has jumped $5 million. Over the last three seasons the cap has gone up a TOTAL of $6 million. Can't see a $5 million jump for 2018-19.

 

[Supermassive]

Trying to nickel and dime elite players like Draisaitl sounds like a good way to sour him on the organization.

That's more of a...Shelbyville idea.

 

[McShogun99]

I'd rather be paying 8.5 a year to Draisaitl then paying 3.95 to Bennett.

Both Mcdavid and Draisaitl did zero favors for PC with a hometown discount but i'm glad we got both locked up for 8 years. It will be tight for the next few seasons but once the cap starts going up the deals will look great.

For now get ready for cap casualties like RNH, Maroon and Sekera. We will also have to let Talbot go if he keeps playing at a near Vezina level.

 

[KingKhron]

Draisaitl dominated a round of the playoffs (including a 5 point game in a blowout).

People seem to forget that the first 4 games of the San Jose series he was MIA. Hell, I remember a few people around here who wanted to bench him in that series before he started getting going.

I had forgot about that but ya, completely true. After his spear to the tenders that game, a lot of people were saying we were likely better off with him suspended.

Hoped for 7.5, prepared for 8 and am disappointed in 8.5. Given comparables, I don't know how anything over 7.5-8 isn't viewed as overpaid and ideally we'd have a GM who won the deals by half a mil rather than lose but oh well, can't say I'm not super excited to have him and McDavid for 8-9 years. Man, the second contracts to come will be madness.

 

[MettleMcOiler]

YES!! Worth it!! I still think we got him at a discount! McDavid and Draisaitl! What a combo! XD

 

[rboomercat90]

Like the deal if you want, its your prerogative, but don't pretend that this board wasn't awash with praise for 'the previous set of players' when those deals were signed too. It was going to be Stanleys for years. Drai probably asked for an extra million based strictly on the way the city and fans treated that 'previous set of players'.

I never said I liked the deal. As an Oiler fan first I'd have preferred both Draisatl and McDavid had come in at a smaller number to ease the cap crunch. For whatever reason though, that didn't happen and they got what they got and we're at where we're at. What I did say though is I believe Draisatl is less a risk of being a disappointment then the other guys were.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Love the player, don't love the contract. For him to be worth this deal he will need to be able to carry the team whenever McDavid misses time and be a perennial top 10-15 scorer in the league.

The good thing is that his deal will also mean that other young high end players will be getting paid which means that by years 3-4 of his deal his deal will be looking pretty good if he doesn't regress. Matthews and Eichel should come in at at least $10 million AAV after this contract.

 

[Deplorable Lenny]

You are right. I was off a year with the cap. Still no way it jumps to $80 million next year.

ESPN has laid off tons of staff and they are causing a drag on Disney stock. They aren't getting into a bidding war for NHL rights. Don't even know if I believe they can pay much at all for NHL rights.



06-07 to 07-08 is once and 07-08 to 08-09 is twice. Those are the only times the cap has jumped $5 million. Over the last three seasons the cap has gone up a TOTAL of $6 million. Can't see a $5 million jump for 2018-19.

With ESPN getting back into hockey coverage for the World Cup along with Buccigross' comments a few weeks back, I am at least hopeful that they will be bidding on some hockey. I guess we will see. Either way I can't imagine how the TV can possibly get worse. Ratings have improved and TV deals have been increasing across the board in every other sport.

According to this graph here, there has been 5 times the cap has jumped about $5M.

2006-2007-2008-2011-2014 the cap rose between $4.7M and $6.4M each season

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/a0dd24845d6f63173666eae02199a383.png

It definitely happened a lot more in the early stages of the Cap and there are variables for that that do not apply anymore. Such as the percentage increase in the early ages of the cap from 54% to 57% which helped a ton. Also the last lockout it stagnated for 2 years because of the % of HRR going down from 57 to 50. So who knows what will happen with the next CBA and something like that could possibly happen again.

All in all though, the cap has risen from $39M to $75M in 12 years already. It is far more likely that it continues to increase as time goes on and the Canadian dollar hopefully improves. Also Vegas does seem to be doing well for revenue. (according to their owner). Im sure that will help.

I guess we won't know for sure until the contracts are almost done but I pay Drai and McD $21M over any duo in the NHL right now.

 

[snipes]

Best duo in the league for the next 8 years or more is awesome

 

[McAsuno]

It's really just 5 years ... 2010-April 2015 was rough.

Even in that span, the Hall-Eberle-RNH Oilers were slowly but surely improving every year until they decided to fire Krueger and go with Eakins. That 2 year stretch was embarrassing.

It was flat out hell. Sure, Hall-Eberle-RNH were fun to watch and improving, but mostly everyone else floundered. Nobody stuck up for each other. The D was an absolute embarrassment. Prospects development and scouting was terrible. The coaching carousel and the OBC regime were crippling.

No way in hell do I ever want to watch another rebuild like that for our team again.

 

[UnicornONtheCOBB]

He's got to be a 70+ point center AWAY from McDavid or this will be an awful contract.

I don't know if he can do it based on evidence so far. But I would love to be wrong.

so if he gets 70 next year as a C, it's OK, but if he gets 69 then it's awful?

 

[Jeff Lebowski]

There will be some massive expectations for Leon now. I hope he can live up to it. Things will turn very sour for him if he can't. I hope, at the very least he can sustain the season he had last year.

 

[rboomercat90]

Is he going to be a big winner with $75 million in the bank?
Just asking cause, you know, complacency setting in has been a common criticism directed at 'the previous set of players' by members of this board.
Tell me again how many years Drai has been in the league and how confident you are that we haven't already seen 'peak'.

If we're worried about all our players being complacent after they're given new contracts then why bother paying any of them at all? If that's the case then what's the point of being interested or having a team at all?

My point in this is I've seen more from Draisatl that leads me to believe he isn't satisfied then I ever saw from Nuge or Eberle. Hall was a winner before he got here but I believe he had other issues. If you don't see that, that's your prerogative. We can continue to treat this summer like the sky is falling just like last summer after Hall was traded.

 

[McShogun99]

It was flat out hell. Sure, Hall-Eberle-RNH were fun to watch and improving, but mostly everyone else floundered. Nobody stuck up for each other. The D was an absolute embarrassment. Prospects development and scouting was terrible. The coaching carousel and the OBC regime were crippling.

No way in hell do I ever want to watch another rebuild like that for our team again.

People might think that Lucic's contract will hurt us but as long as he is healthy we won't be seeing the team get pushed around. Having guys like him, Kassian and Maroon will influence the rest of the team and the young guys coming up to stick up for each other. With the Hall cluster we had zero players like that and it was more of a fend for yourselves attitude.

 

[JarvisFunk]

lol. watch drai take a step back next year cause he got paid. dude had one good year and he's worth 8.5. yiiiiiikes

You are like the 5th or 6th person in this thread to blantantly ignore his season prior where he was a beast for us. TWO good years now. It wrecks your narrative tho, so I understand.

 

[RipsADrive]

I love having Drai locked up for max years but I won't lie and say that I expected the AAV to be as high as it is.

You won't hear me complaining too much though. The core is now locked up long term now and if costs need to be cut elsewhere so be it.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

We probably could of dragged it out all through camp until the eleventh hour to save 500K AAV but I'm a firm believer that you don't nickel and dime your most important players. All great teams are anchored by a core group who make the players around them better, inflate them and allow us to move those complimentary players out in favour of younger players whom we've acquired and developed for those specific roles. The perceived additional dollar value will be offset by the players these guys build up which we will in turn be able to trade for value, allowing us to stock our prospect pool with younger, cheaper players in areas of need.


I also don't understand why some people seem to think that Draisaitl is going to put it in cruise control now that he's gotten paid. He's an elite talent, with great drive and determination, probably the best player to ever come out of his country. He's had some great early success and plays with one of the best who's incredibly motivated, he's only going to get better. Next season I see him finishing around 68-70 pts, he will be a clutch player for us, a beast in all 3 zones and that nasty little streak he has will grow as well.