Confirmed with Link: Draisaitl re-signs 8y 8.5M AAV

[Gord]

Past is the past. I am talking about the present and future. Was anything I said untrue? You can stew in the past or have fun in the now and beyond.

anything untrue? maybe the hyperbole of "the eden of the north"

and the past doesn't change. it still shows the reality of a persons actions even if the present circumstances have changed.

you can acknowledge the fact of what has transpired without stewing in it.
just like you can look forward to the future without having to polish it beyond belief.

 

[Cawz]

Waited until late September and saved 1 million.

Even better - wait until 24/25 and save 68 million. Problem solved. Who needs players when you have cap space.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Waited until late September and saved 1 million.

Why do you assume this is true?

 

[OneMoreAstronaut]

It's a lot, but I have no problem with Drai getting it. We have two proven top ten scorers. Who want to stay here, long term. This is a day for celebration.

 

[ThePhoenixx]

anything untrue? maybe the hyperbole of "the eden of the north"

and the past doesn't change. it still shows the reality of a persons actions even if the present circumstances have changed.

you can acknowledge the fact of what has transpired without stewing in it.
just like you can look forward to the future without having to polish it beyond belief.

It will be. There will be nothing like it in Canada. It will be one of a kind when it is all done.

The arena is called by the media as the gem of the NHL. Do you think the top of the line J.W. Marriott is going to lower that? The garden isn't even in yet.

 

[Aceboogie]

At one point Halls 6 Mil was seen as outrageous, stupid, craxy etc. then 6 mil became the standard. 8.5 is the next 6 mil. Soon enough well see Eichel, Marner, Matthews, Nyalnder, Pasta, Laine etc sign for 8.5 and noone will bat an eye at Draisaitls contract

 

[Del Preston]

Have you ever thought about going to another team?
No never. Since I've been to Edmonton, I feel puddle.

What an answer!

 

[shoop]

Ok, I am done thinking that it is an overpayment. Cap will go up at least $5M next season and it will be AWESOME following Matthews/Nylander/Marner negotiations/signings next summer!

No way the cap goes up $5M next season. NHLPA had to invoke the escalator clause for it to go up $2M this season.

Cap is $75M for 2018-19. It might not hit $80M before 2022-23.

Chia will have to earn his money. Lots of little deals every season. Cutting players loose and moving on will become the norm.

Still don't think RNH is an Oiler past the TDL.

 

[Soundwave]

No way the cap goes up $5M next season. NHLPA had to invoke the escalator clause for it to go up $2M this season.

Cap is $75M for 2018-19. It might not hit $80M before 2022-23.

Chia will have to earn his money. Lots of little deals every season. Cutting players loose and moving on will become the norm.

Still don't think RNH is an Oiler past the TDL.

It could have been about $77 million this year. I think it will be $77 mill next season or more and $80+ mill in 2-3 years.

 

[Supermassive]

What an answer!

I think we all feel puddle.

 

[Raab]

Anyone know what the buy out is on this contract if he regresses back to a 50 point center man? He's making 200k less then Crosby and still has 5 RFA years left. Chia is a joke.


Edit: Serious question how many 21 year olds have gotten a contract worth 8.5M? He's 1.75M overpaid.

 

[Namtsua]

Anyone know what the buy out is on this contract if he regresses back to a 50 point center man? He's making 200k less then Crosby and still has 5 RFA years left. Chia is a joke.


Edit: Serious question how many 21 year olds have gotten a contract worth 8.5M? He's 1.75M overpaid.

You can't compare it to the Crosby contract because the cap was smaller back then.

At that point, the Crosby was similar to McDavid's new contract.

 

[1976len]

better than the Lucic deal lol!
Seriously though, the deal that had to be made got made.

 

[Tarus]

No way the cap goes up $5M next season. NHLPA had to invoke the escalator clause for it to go up $2M this season.

Cap is $75M for 2018-19. It might not hit $80M before 2022-23.

Chia will have to earn his money. Lots of little deals every season. Cutting players loose and moving on will become the norm.

Still don't think RNH is an Oiler past the TDL.

With the canadian dollar up a tad, and the additional revenue of another team starting this year; the NHL could see a bit bigger jump in cap next year than we've seen over the last few.

We'll have to wait and see what happens.

 

[Raab]

You can't compare it to the Crosby contract because the cap was smaller back then.

At that point, the Crosby was similar to McDavid's new contract.

Crosby signed his new contract like 2 years ago, and gave up all UFA years. Like seriously this is probably one of the worst contracts in the league. We could have done a bridge and got him at the same number in 2 years after KNOWING he's a top line centerman and not a 1 year wonder. You'd think these guys would have learned after the RNH and Sam Gagner fiasco's.

 

[Del Preston]

Crosby's contract is illegal under the current CBA. You can't compare it with Draisaitl's.

 

[Raab]

Crosby's contract is illegal under the current CBA. You can't compare it with Draisaitl's.

There's no comparable for how bad this deal is when Draisaitl still had 5 RFA years left. He's now one of the top 15 paid players in the league and I think we can all agree he's done nothing to earn more then Ryan Getzlaf. I mean he's making 1M more then Tarasenko who scored 39 goals last year. Unbelievable

 

[tempest2i]

Crosby signed his new contract like 2 years ago, and gave up all UFA years. Like seriously this is probably one of the worst contracts in the league. We could have done a bridge and got him at the same number in 2 years after KNOWING he's a top line centerman and not a 1 year wonder. You'd think these guys would have learned after the RNH and Sam Gagner fiasco's.

They learned from the PK Subban fiasco.

Identify your franchise players early, treat them with respect and lock them up as soon as possible.

 

[Deplorable Lenny]

No way the cap goes up $5M next season. NHLPA had to invoke the escalator clause for it to go up $2M this season.

Cap is $75M for 2018-19. It might not hit $80M before 2022-23.

Chia will have to earn his money. Lots of little deals every season. Cutting players loose and moving on will become the norm.

Still don't think RNH is an Oiler past the TDL.

Cap is $75M for 2017-2018

The USA TV deal will need to be renegotiated 2 years before 2022-23 and it can't possibly get any worse. With rumours of ESPN being interested they might actually have 2 networks competing against each other. Or better yet, they split the rights and they both pay.

I don't think its far fetched to assume the Salary cap will be increasing regardless of the TV deal though. It goes up every single year (except the lockout shortened season). 5 different times the cap went up by about $5M.

In the next 8 years I wouldn't be surprised to see the cap go up to $100M or more. A lot depends on the Canadian $ and USA TV deal though so its far from guaranteed but at this point I would say it is more likely to hit $100M than not.

 

[rboomercat90]

I don't think the sky is falling but I'm a little shocked at the amount of posters expecting continual growth from Drai. What exactly makes him different from Hall, RNH, and Ebs? I see a lot of the same posters spewing 'good riddance' nonsense about Eberle now staunchly defending this deal. Makes no sense - Eberle had proven more when he got his 6 mill deal imo. Then he stagnated.

Definitely hoping that a winning environment and stable good coach combine with a different player for continued growth but I see very little evidence to guarantee it...

Some times I wonder if some of you guys ever actually watch the games. Ive seen more drive and intensity in a season and a half from Draisatl than I ever saw from Eberle and Nuge. I believe Hall had drive too but he could never learn to control his emotions and that hurt the team at times. Draisatl acts and performs like he's always committed to getting better. The other three you're trying to compare him to looked like they got very comfortable with the way things were. I think it's pretty obvious what's different with Draisatl and I don't think he's even remotely close to the risk those guys were.

 

[Deplorable Lenny]

Crosby signed his new contract like 2 years ago, and gave up all UFA years. Like seriously this is probably one of the worst contracts in the league. We could have done a bridge and got him at the same number in 2 years after KNOWING he's a top line centerman and not a 1 year wonder. You'd think these guys would have learned after the RNH and Sam Gagner fiasco's.

Actually it was 5 years ago. And his cap hit would have been a lot higher if he could only sign for 8 years instead of 12.

And we couldn't have done a bridge deal if Drai was not willing to sign a bridge deal. Even if we did and he is top 10 in scoring again next season, his new cap hit starts with a $10

 

[Oildrum]

I hate this deal. I wanted a bridge deal, I would have gladly paid more later if he proved himself worthy. I don't see it, I really hope he proves me wrong.

 

[McGoMcD]

I think the most simliar players in the NHL to Drai who signed similar deals at about the same age are Tarasenko and Barkov. Taresenko signed for 7.5 mill 3 years ago coming of a simliar season. If you compare that to the cap at the time it is right on par with Drai. Barkov signed for only 5.9 coming of a similar year but for only 6 years and against a smaller cap. It actually isn`t all that different. If you add in that in those 2 years Barkov will probably get 10-11 mill, suddenly the contract would actually be quite close to Drai`s. When you factor in the term this deal is right in line with many others. I don`t really see what the fuss is about. I hoped he would take a discount, but it is fair market value.

 

[Raab]

They learned from the PK Subban fiasco.

Identify your franchise players early, treat them with respect and lock them up as soon as possible.

PK signed for 9M man and gave up more UFA years. His deal at least you knew you were getting one of the top 10 dmen in the league. Is Draisaitl one of the top centermen in the league? I dont see it at this point. They didnt learn anything. They keep over paying young guys who havent earned it, which in turn gets them ran out of town.

 

[McJadeddog]

At one point Halls 6 Mil was seen as outrageous, stupid, craxy etc. then 6 mil became the standard. 8.5 is the next 6 mil. Soon enough well see Eichel, Marner, Matthews, Nyalnder, Pasta, Laine etc sign for 8.5 and noone will bat an eye at Draisaitls contract

this is 100% correct... where the problem lies though, is assuming that drai is on par with the players mentioned above.... eichel, latthews, pasta, and laine are all on a different (higher) tier than drai