GDT: Draft thread Day 2 - 11AM

Tony Romo

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This is simply just a unique situation to Matthews. He wants to be paid the highest player in the league at every turn. It's that simple.

Every other team doesn't have to deal with their superstar not willing to commit to 8 years after their bridge. It's all mental gymnastics and making excuses.

YEP, all of this.
 

tmlms13

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Literally How. Nylander will end up around 9M if it gets done. That's 2M

Matthews makes 11.6M, and estimates appear to be, on the high end, 13.5M, which is 1.9M.

That's a total of 3.9M.

So either you think Nylander is somehow going to get 11.1M or Matthews will sign an illegal contract.

I would not be surprised if they end up at 14 & 9.5. That's closer to 6 than 4
 

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I haven't like how quiet this team has been either. But its pretty obvious now this is Shanahans team and he's the one that's been wanting to run it back year over year.

Weird take on McCabe. Brodie yes, he's falling off quick. McCabe was fine. Out of position at times but hopefully more time in the system will help with that.
I was surprised at how many puck battles McCabe lost.

The Leafs didn’t report any injuries so I have to assume they were healthy and are just too slow.

Maybe they could keep him as a 3rd pair guy, but they need someone to play with Rielly and a 2nd pair if they want to be serious about winning.
 

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I haven't hoped to be wrong about this team more then now but it's going to take some excellent GM work to make us more competitive then we were last season.
 

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Nylander won’t be 9.5M per here imo.

Matthews will write his own contract. Still praying he surprises us all. Nylander has to fit what we can work with.




"By comparison, the Matthews extension appears to be much more straightforward for Toronto to navigate. The Hart Trophy winner is certain to surpass Nathan MacKinnon’s league-leading AAV of $12.6 million — and a term between three and five years seems most likely — but Matthews isn’t expected to push his cap charge to the absolute limit because of the challenges that would create in filling out a championship contender around him."
 

TheGreenTBer

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The latest on Matthews' contract by Chris Johnston
By comparison, the Matthews extension appears to be much more straightforward for Toronto to navigate. The Hart Trophy winner is certain to surpass Nathan MacKinnon’s league-leading AAV of $12.6 million — and a term between three and five years seems most likely — but Matthews isn’t expected to push his cap charge to the absolute limit because of the challenges that would create in filling out a championship contender around him.
Oh how ever so generous of you, Auston! Thanks again for us being in this position to begin with, Kyle.

God I hate this core so much.
 

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This is simply just a unique situation to Matthews. He wants to be paid the highest player in the league at every turn. It's that simple. No need to spin other players and things in the mix.

Every other team doesn't have to deal with their superstar not willing to commit to 8 years after their bridge. It's all mental gymnastics and making excuses. A bunch of people will say players are smart to do that but then realize there's only one player reported to do that.

We can’t take it as guaranteed truth, but it was fairly widely reported that Matthews wanted 8 years on his last deal but that his ask was essentially McDavid money. Say what you want about that, there are ways to support it and obviously not as well, but it’s generally been accepted the team chose the 5 year term.

As for now, I think 5 or 6 years works better for us, so won’t be upset if he doesn’t do 8.

As for being highest paid. He’s earned that right briefly until Draisaitl & McDavid pass him fairly shortly. I don’t think being the highest paid is any more important to Matthews than it was to MacKinnon when he chose to take 100k over McDavid. It’s gonna happen, but that doesn’t mean it’s his focus of the contract.
 

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Although goaltending really let them down, Tampa knows their D contributed to their failure, and they have to fix it.
 

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Didn't even look like he should have been rated in the 2nd round based on his performance last year.
He had a great year considering that he injured his wrist at Leafs' camp, missed several weeks in March/April including the first round of the playoffs and was clearly playing hurt in the playoffs.
 

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We can’t take it as guaranteed truth, but it was fairly widely reported that Matthews wanted 8 years on his last deal but that his ask was essentially McDavid money. Say what you want about that, there are ways to support it and obviously not as well, but it’s generally been accepted the team chose the 5 year term.

As for now, I think 5 or 6 years works better for us, so won’t be upset if he doesn’t do 8.

As for being highest paid. He’s earned that right briefly until Draisaitl & McDavid pass him fairly shortly. I don’t think being the highest paid is any more important to Matthews than it was to MacKinnon when he chose to take 100k over McDavid. It’s gonna happen, but that doesn’t mean it’s his focus of the contract.
If the Leafs deliberately chose 5 years at $11.634 over 8 years at $12.5 at that point in time, either Dubas is an even bigger idiot than I previously thought or he maliciously engineered it to ensure his own personal survival.
 

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If the Leafs deliberately chose 5 years at $11.634 over 8 years at $12.5 at that point in time, either Dubas is an even bigger idiot than I previously thought or he maliciously engineered it to ensure his own personal survival.

Dubas did say in the Auston presser if I remember that 5 years provides the most flexibility for both Auston and the Maple Leafs.

And to be fair, most other first overall picks did 5 year deals as well. So it isn’t something unique to Toronto. Even the cap percentage isn’t that far off from other superstars post elc. It’s just the cap was way lower when other former 1st overalls did theirs and then McDavid signed an 8 year deal.
 
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Am I? I'm looking at the NHL Roster right now. Maybe 3 big holes to fill? Make it 4 with re-signing Samsonov.

Oh right I forgot, the entire NHL squad needs to be changed on a dime.
Sami is $3ish+ and most of the rest are bargain bin types. The Holl replacement is to be Schenn then? They can do it, they just won't be able to add any piece that moves the needle. Murray gone would be a big help but maybe that isn't their plan, otherwise I think they could have moved him and still taken the same guy, like the Minten thing. Its still too early to be making cap poverty predictions.
 

Tony Romo

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If the Leafs deliberately chose 5 years at $11.634 over 8 years at $12.5 at that point in time, either Dubas is an even bigger idiot than I previously thought or he maliciously engineered it to ensure his own personal survival.
I think the ask for 8 years was 13m+ at the time, from what I remembered reading.

Will look to see if I can find confirmation on it.
 

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