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Draft and UDFA Thread 2018-19: Part VII (No Kakko/Hughes Talk)

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n8 said:
My picks something are (2:Hughes/Kakko), (18:Newhook/Caufield/Suzuki/Poulin/Kaliyev), (27:Hinolea)
obviously it's difficult to project who is going to be available at 18.
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At this point I expect Heinola to almost certainly be off the board before 18. He might go higher than every other name you listed.
 
Blueshirts1994 said:
Does anyone know where arseni gritsyuk might go in the draft? 3rd-5th round? He might go the chl route as i think he is still on a junior contract
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A big riser over the past few months, but I still think he's too unknown yet. If he gets a combine invite, that might help his stock. I would say Late 3rd, ATM....
 
It’s looking like there will be some really nice defenders in the high teen’s or 20’s... do we still go wing or center if a guy like Heinola, bjornfot, broberg or Harley are there ?
Feel York and seider might not make it down that far
 
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bl02 said:
It’s looking like there will be some really nice defenders in the high teen’s or 20’s... do we still go wing or center if a guy like Heinola, bjornfot, broberg or Harley are there ?
Feel York and seider might not make it down that far
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Broberg would be extremely difficult to pass on with the Jets pick. That’s a pick that can provide great value versus draft position. Broberg’s tools are extremely enticing. He just needs time to marinate
 
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KooKooForKakko said:
Broberg would be extremely difficult to pass on with the Jets pick. That’s a pick that can provide great value versus draft position. Broberg’s tools are extremely enticing. He just needs time to marinate
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Yeah agree to good to pass up albeit there will be some centers available there as well
 
I get serious Cam Fowler vibes from Broberg. I'd steer clear and am very close to putting him on my "do not draft" list.

I'm a much bigger fan of York, Heinola, Seider, or Harley in the Winnipeg spot if the Rangers go with defense there. I don't think Soderstrom and well, Broberg for that matter, are going to be available if the Rangers actually pick with the Winnipeg pick.
 
I Eat Crow said:
I get serious Cam Fowler vibes from Broberg. I'd steer clear and am very close to putting him on my "do not draft" list.

I'm a much bigger fan of York, Heinola, Seider, or Harley in the Winnipeg spot if the Rangers go with defense there. I don't think Soderstrom and well, Broberg for that matter, are going to be available if the Rangers actually pick with the Winnipeg pick.
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"Do not draft?" You say that like Cam Fowler is a bust. The guy has had a really nice career to date. We'd be damn lucky if we took a defenseman at 20 who became Cam Fowler.
 
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Barnaby said:
I get the Seider intrigue, but I feel like enthusiasm has gotten a bit overblown. Give me York or Soderstrom any day.
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Soderstrom is probably an 8-12 guy whereas Seider is more feasible with the Jets pick.

I think York would be a great get with the Jets pick, but think he’s about 50/50 to be there. Montreal fits him like a glove, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him go in the 11-14 range come draft day.
 
KooKooForKakko said:
Soderstrom is probably an 8-12 guy whereas Seider is more feasible with the Jets pick.

I think York would be a great get with the Jets pick, but think he’s about 50/50 to be there. Montreal fits him like a glove, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him go in the 11-14 range come draft day.
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Agree on both counts... I just find it fascinating that Seider seems to show up on almost every page when there are plenty of other D available
 
Barnaby said:
"Do not draft?" You say that like Cam Fowler is a bust. The guy has had a really nice career to date. We'd be damn lucky if we took a defenseman at 20 who became Cam Fowler.
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Fowler puts up points but is absolutely horrific in his own end. I'd want a 1st round pick to be more well rounded unless the offensive skills are enough to overlook the warts on defense.
 
York and Heinola are probably my 2nd and 3rd preferred D after Byram

Heinola is tracking a bit similar to Heiskanen, some people think he could play in the NHL as soon as next year
 
Barnaby said:
"Do not draft?" You say that like Cam Fowler is a bust. The guy has had a really nice career to date. We'd be damn lucky if we took a defenseman at 20 who became Cam Fowler.
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I just don't get it. Pretty much every Anaheim fan loves him and what he's done yet so many Ranger fans feel he's garbage
 
Barnaby said:
I get the Seider intrigue, but I feel like enthusiasm has gotten a bit overblown. Give me York or Soderstrom any day.
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Any of those three would be incredible. All three are gone if we don't pick 19-22. I think some have Soderstrom going top 12
 
Oscar Lindberg said:
York and Heinola are probably my 2nd and 3rd preferred D after Byram

Heinola is tracking a bit similar to Heiskanen, some people think he could play in the NHL as soon as next year
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That is sick. Unfortunately, I think he is on Montreal's radar. I believe they have had some success with Finnish players and they need a dman like him.
 
Barnaby said:
"Do not draft?" You say that like Cam Fowler is a bust. The guy has had a really nice career to date. We'd be damn lucky if we took a defenseman at 20 who became Cam Fowler.
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He was also the best Defenseman drafted in the first round. I would argue probably the best d man in the entire draft!
 
man remember Brandon Gormley? He became as big a bust as He Who Should Not Be Named. Even worse, actually, because he actually was drafted where he was expected to and projected to be a good d-man. The Coyotes have just had garbage luck with the draft.
 
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York would certainly be a solid pick. He will definitely be able to walk in Mickey Andersson’s foot-steps and be a top D for the US in the U20. Reminds me a lot of Andersson, doesn’t seem to be very skilled nor does he have much size or spectacular skating, but he subtly gets the job done. Nice No 4 D potential.
 
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Ola said:
York would certainly be a solid pick. He will definitely be able to walk in Mickey Andersson’s foot-steps and be a top D for the US in the U20. Reminds me a lot of Andersson, doesn’t seem to be very skilled nor does he have much size or spectacular skating, but he subtly gets the job done. Nice No 4 D potential.
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York is one of my favorite defensemen after Byram. He would be a very good value pick with the Jets pick in the late teens/early 20’s.
 
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QJL said:
At this point I expect Heinola to almost certainly be off the board before 18. He might go higher than every other name you listed.
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Sorry
 
i find i comical that peeps here criticize cam fowler at all given we drafted mcilrath at 10 that yr

say what you want about him being soft and what not, but his career speaks for itself.

hes an nhl allstar and has played 620 nhl games

mcilrath not so much

and i definitely dont get cam fowler vibes from broberg at all. that kid has a fantastic stride. fluid effortless skater. he's big and he can skate. hes smart and talented. no question hes one of the top dmen in the entire draft.

hes not a true pmd because hes prone to turnovers and fumbling pucks. hes not overly creative but he counters that with smarts and puck transport ability.

i see no cam fowler there at all.

in many ways hes kinda raw and so i see more k'andre miller than cam fowler.
 
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