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Draft and UDFA Thread 2018-19: Part V (Lottery 04/09 8PM EST)

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HockeyBasedNYC said:
High hopes for Winnipeg dropping the Central title.

They've basically been a .500 team during the stretch run and could easily get knocked out in the first round. (Though they are 6-2 against Nash and Stl combined this season)

That pick for Hayes which we once thought would be a late first rounder no earlier than 24th, may turn out to be around 20-23, but they need to lose the division. Root for Nashville and the Blues this week.
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Yeah, unfortunately Nashville has kind of stunk too.

Seems like it is like this every year, teams that are active at the deadline starts to struggle and teams that don’t do much raise their game. Surely a bit of confirmation bias, but still enough data to see that dead line additions far from guarantees improved results.
 
Yeah the U-18's are going to be pretty critical in determining how spots 3-12 go.

I hate, and I mean HATE judging a player off of a single tournament (The U-18's are great for getting a look at a kid who may have been hard to get a ton of looks at due to being buried on a pro roster or playing in the middle of nowhere) but this year, with the lack of separation between picks 3-8 (or even further), a strong or weak performance here can really tip the scales for a kid.
 
HockeyBasedNYC said:
High hopes for Winnipeg dropping the Central title.

They've basically been a .500 team during the stretch run and could easily get knocked out in the first round. (Though they are 6-2 against Nash and Stl combined this season)

That pick for Hayes which we once thought would be a late first rounder no earlier than 24th, may turn out to be around 20-23, but they need to lose the division. Root for Nashville and the Blues this week.
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Blues with the extra game in hand on Nashville and Winnipeg have a fairly easy schedule. At Chicago tonight, but home to Philly and Vancouver. Let's be honest, Philly looked lost against us at home. I don't see that being competitive. Vancouver might come to play, but I can really see them snagging all three games and winning the division. Winnipeg has Colorado and Arizona.

Colorado will need that game to clinch. If the lose in regulation, it could open the door for Arizona. Nashville is home to Van and Chicago. Who knows with that team. I'd put my bets on St. Louis being the team that could do it.
 
Don’t forget the U18s is where I told this board to expect Montreal to draft Kotkaniemi 3rd overall when no one had him that high going in.

Good or bad this tourney can make or break draft status for many guys.
 
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Kovalev27 said:
Don’t forget the U18s is where I told this board to expect Montreal to draft Kotkaniemi 3rd overall when no one had him that high going in.

Good or bad this tourney can make or break draft status for many guys.
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Yep. International tournaments dictate draft rankings for about 60%, when it comes to EU prospects, it's closer to 95%
 
Edge said:
Hell, let’s just put together a team of kids from NY and/or those who grew up fans of the Rangers.

We’ll take Zegras at 6, trade up for Kaliyev in the teens, grab McCarthy and Warren in the second, and then trade for Fox.
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And Mastrosimone :D
 
duhmetreE said:
We lost our hobbit... need to bring balance
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People talk about wanting to jump start the offense and being in skill, those two would CERTAINLY do that.

The question for Caufield will be ceiling. He’s talented, but I’m not sure there are many people who are quite sure just how talented. He’s got the potential to put up numbers, the question is how high.

Some think he’s a very good prospect who looks like a great prospect in the US program. Others view him as a guy who is flying under the radar because everyone is paying attention to the centers and assuming it’s all them.

There’s also a question as to whether his size is just enough of a detriment to prevent him from becoming a top tier winger.

Definitely a great pick for the teens, but does someone like him a little more than that?
 
Edge said:
People talk about wanting to jump start the offense and being in skill, those two would CERTAINLY do that.

The question for Caufield will be ceiling. He’s talented, but I’m not sure there are many people who are quite sure just how talented. He’s got the potential to put up numbers, the question is how high.

Some think he’s a very good prospect who looks like a great prospect in the US program. Others view him as a guy who is flying under the radar because everyone is paying attention to the centers and assuming it’s all them.

There’s also a question as to whether his size is just enough of a detriment to prevent him from becoming a top tier winger.

Definitely a great pick for the teens, but does someone like him a little more than that?
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Obviously not the same players, or even the same style necessarily, but I feel like every single one of those questions is eerily similar to the talk about DeBrincat predraft. In Friedman’s column this week he had a bunch of good stuff on Chicago’s process and eventually really honing in on DeBrincat to the point where, on draft day, they tried hard to trade into the first round to get him
 
GeorgeKaplan said:
Obviously not the same players, or even the same style necessarily, but I feel like every single one of those questions is eerily similar to the talk about DeBrincat predraft. In Friedman’s column this week he had a bunch of good stuff on Chicago’s process and eventually really honing in on DeBrincat to the point where, on draft day, they tried hard to trade into the first round to get him
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And that’s always the trick, separating the DeBrincat’s from the trivia questions.

In theory, having multiple picks gives the Rangers more freedom to roll the dice a little.

Obviously their top pick is going to be extremely important. But the difference between a very good draft and a great/excellent draft is going to be uncovering higher end talent elsewhere as well.

Right now, outside of our top pick, we have at least two additional picks in the top 40 or four additional picks in the top 60. If things went right, maybe that becomes four additional picks in the top 40. But even the minimum isn’t bad.
 
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Edge said:
People talk about wanting to jump start the offense and being in skill, those two would CERTAINLY do that.

The question for Caufield will be ceiling. He’s talented, but I’m not sure there are many people who are quite sure just how talented. He’s got the potential to put up numbers, the question is how high.

Some think he’s a very good prospect who looks like a great prospect in the US program. Others view him as a guy who is flying under the radar because everyone is paying attention to the centers and assuming it’s all them.

There’s also a question as to whether his size is just enough of a detriment to prevent him from becoming a top tier winger.

Definitely a great pick for the teens, but does someone like him a little more than that?
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I'm hoping he falls as well, where we could move in and scoop him up in the mid-teens.

From what I've seen, I think he's the real deal. He has everything besides the size. Phenomenal hands, great edgework, stickhandling, shooting, passing. He shoots from everywhere with a great release. Puts himself in position to get off a shot. I just really like his game and do not think size will be an issue in this modern day NHL. He's elusive enough and creates space for himself with the tools he has

Gaudreau and DeBrincat are the obvious comparisons.. Stylistically, I think he's closer to Gaudreau

IMO talent wise, he's up there with the best, Hughes/Kakko etc.. I wouldn't be surprised if a team takes him top5, overlooking his size.
 
Caufield is a guy I’d very heavily consider trading up for with the Jets pick. Him or Seider. I’d do it up to the mid teens for Caufield. To me, he screams steal.
 
MahomesIsGod said:
Caufield is a guy I’d very heavily consider trading up for with the Jets pick. Him or Seider. I’d do it up to the mid teens for Caufield. To me, he screams steal.
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I feel like we need to consolidate the quantity into quality. Use the WPG, TB, DAL picks, with players like Vesey/Names/Pionk to move up
 
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MahomesIsGod said:
Caufield is a guy I’d very heavily consider trading up for with the Jets pick. Him or Seider. I’d do it up to the mid teens for Caufield. To me, he screams steal.
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To be honest, if the Rangers have really rotten luck and drop to 8th or 9th overall, I can't say there would be too many players that I would really like more in that spot than Caufield.
 
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IDK why most are comparing C. Caufield to Gaudreau or DeBrincat. They primarily use their playmaking ability to set up others. He's a goal scoring grinder, which stylistically resembles Atkinson, IMO.
 
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Edge said:
Hell, let’s just put together a team of kids from NY and/or those who grew up fans of the Rangers.

We’ll take Zegras at 6, trade up for Kaliyev in the teens, grab McCarthy and Warren in the second, and then trade for Fox.
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MahomesIsGod said:
And Mastrosimone :D
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Not sure if he's a Ranger fan, but there's a potential steal in Farinacci. High school kid, but my contacts in the tri-state area are very high on him.

Upside is worth a late 2nd. Would be a steal further down. Not saying he's a lock, but he's a high upside player.
 
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