Draft and UDFA Thread 2018-19: Part III

[Ori]

Unless we pick top-5 we won't get Byram. I think he's going top-5. Unless WPG is eliminated early doubt we have a chance at Doro/Brink. Both have been mocked mid 1st.

If we don`t win the lottery - I hope we draft him, but I think he go around 6th overall pick.

Bowen Byram

An explosive skater who is the best in the class at leading the breakout. He has terrific north-south speed as well the vision and lateral movement to be able to make opponents miss through the neutral zone.
He has a big shot that will allow him to be the trigger-man on a power play.
He likes to stand up at his own blue line; either to strip the puck or deliver a hard check. When opponents do gain the zone on him, he maintains tight gap control and does well to hold proper position.
Byram can be guilty of thinking transition a little too early - a trade off that goes along with his high-end puck moving skills - but that is something that defenders with his skill set often learn to grow out of as they enter the NHL.

A brief scout report and we need his shot from the blueline.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

If we don`t win the lottery - I hope we draft him, but I think he go around 6th overall pick.

Bowen Byram


A brief scout report and we need his shot from the blueline.

I'd seriously consider taking him #3 and at the very least, #4.

 

[Edge]

Unless we pick top-5 we won't get Byram. I think he's going top-5. Unless WPG is eliminated early doubt we have a chance at Doro/Brink. Both have been mocked mid 1st.

I'd love to get one of Cozens, Dach or Byram, though I think Byram has become my personal favorite for this draft.

As for some of the other names, we'll have to trade up for Doro, and maybe Brink.

My fantasy continues to be grabbing Byram at 5, and then trading up to get some of the other names we've tossed around.

In theory, outside of their top pick, the Rangers will have anywhere from one to three additional first rounders to work with, and/or one to three second round picks to work with.

At the very least, they will head into the draft with two firsts and three seconds --- approximately 8 percent of the first two rounds worth of draft picks.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

The more time moves on, the more I feel comfortable with Turcotte at 3/4. Think he is gonna rise right past the NYR draft slot.

 

[offdacrossbar]

dylan cozens is the guy after jack hughes that makes the most sense. thats the guy i grab.

another high end c/w talent with crazy skating skills. kids stride is powerful and the edge work is high end. 6'3 190 is a power forward frame with wheels. righty shot. his ability to play uptempo power game is a unique combination of size and skill. strong shot and creative, this kid can be both an impact centerman or play the power edge game. sounds alot like chytl.

think a young jeff carter. cozens also reminds me of the power game that kreider has but cozens seems to have more natural hockey sense. something CK seemed to lack on draft day and to some degree, still does.

after cozens, alex newhook is the other true pivot i would love to snag. too much talent there and a kid who is a natural centerman. his production this season is just stupid.

ill throw out another C whos flying under the radar some what, connor mcmichael. this kid will be a riser on draft day.

starting to drift away from the podkolzin thing. just not enough production. skill for days but those numbers stand out as its not making sense why he cant find production. red flag for me.

not interested in a dman as our first choice. at all. too many forwards i take before byram or broberg is even considered for me.

art kaliyev still makes me salivate. i just think that kid is going to be a legit nhl sniper.

BPA is always the way to go, but when choosing between BPA forward or Dman this draft in that 1-7 range, its forward for me.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Does Byram project to be a true #1?

 

[True Blue]

Does Byram project to be a true #1?

Yes

 

[Lion Hound]

Would be amazing if WPG lost in the first round.

 

[Sarge13]

The more time moves on, the more I feel comfortable with Turcotte at 3/4. Think he is gonna rise right past the NYR draft slot.

I think there's a very good chance he'll be gone by at least number 7. We don't want Minnesota drafting ahead of us if Turcottes our guy.

I'm sticking with last month's prediction of 78 points, where does that land us in the order before the lottery?

 

[Ghost of jas]

Would be amazing if WPG lost in the first round.

Actually, what would be better is for St. Louis to overtake Winnipeg, and as long as they don’t reach the conference finals, the pick could be in the late teens.

 

[True Blue]

not interested in a dman as our first choice. at all. too many forwards i take before byram or broberg is even considered for me.

Broberg is one thing. Byram is another. Not sure how you casually dismiss him. He could very well (and for my money, is) the third best player in the draft. AND a projected #1 defensemen. Those do not grow on trees. With him and Miller, you potentially could control the entire left side of the ice for virtually an entire game.

 

[Sarge13]

Does Byram project to be a true #1?

Yes.

Even though its months away and we have no clear draft position right now, I'm almost positive he's the guy the Rangers will Target, too much smoke there not to believe they're very interested.

He's a lefty, but that's where Gorton should be making his money, getting creative and figuring out how to pencil in the best of the best and move out the rest.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Yes.

Even though its months away and we have no clear draft position right now, I'm almost positive he's the guy the Rangers will Target, too much smoke there not to believe they're very interested.

He's a lefty, but that's where Gorton should be making his money, getting creative and figuring out how to pencil in the best of the best and move out the rest.

Just curious, what smoke?

 

[Ghost of jas]

Just curious, what smoke?

Based on Gordie going to see Cozens and Dach, I would think there’s more smoke about those two.

 

[Sarge13]

Just curious, what smoke?

After they watched his team alot the last two years because of Brad Morrison and Ty Ronning, they amped up the whl scouting even though we have no one there now.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

After they watched his team alot the last two years because of Brad Morrison and Ty Ronning, they amped up the whl scouting even though we have no one there now.

Eh, I think they amped up their WHL scouting because it sucked and the WHL crop is really good this year

 

[Sarge13]

Eh, I think they amped up their WHL scouting because it sucked and the WHL crop is really good this year

True, there are others, but they've probably seen Byram play the most.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Of Cozens and Dach, I'll take Cozens.

Dach is a great prospect but his skating lower his stock in my eyes. Can't take another poor skating center

 

[Sarge13]

Of Cozens and Dach, I'll take Cozens.

Dach is a great prospect but his skating lower his stock in my eyes. Can't take another poor skating center

I don't think he's a center, looks like a Winger at the pro level, IMO.

 

[duhmetreE]

The 1st round....



Hughes, Turcotte, Zegras, Boldy, Caufield, Kaliyev, York and Brinks

 

[Mac n Gs]

The other thing with Dach, and I said this before the season, is that he hadnt really scored goals any year until now. I’m always leery of a kid that’s so adamant on playmaking and doesn’t shoot the puck. It worked for Jumbo and Henrik Sedin, but they’re two of the best playmakers ever; Dach isn’t.

I’m still a Cozens guy when you factor in the overall skills package. I’ve said it, and IIRC @Edge has mentioned it too, but I see a lot of similarities between Cozens and Zibanejad at the same age. Big, great skater, that wiring wrister, and a knack for big-game performances.

 

[Edge]

Does Byram project to be a true #1?

IMO, yes.

I'd even venture to say that I like his chances of becoming a #1 defenseman a little more than I like the odds of Cozens and Dach becoming #1 centers --- and I think those guys have very good odds.

 

[Edge]

The other thing with Dach, and I said this before the season, is that he hadnt really scored goals any year until now. I’m always leery of a kid that’s so adamant on playmaking and doesn’t shoot the puck. It worked for Jumbo and Henrik Sedin, but they’re two of the best playmakers ever; Dach isn’t.

I’m still a Cozens guy when you factor in the overall skills package. I’ve said it, and IIRC @Edge has mentioned it too, but I see a lot of similarities between Cozens and Zibanejad at the same age. Big, great skater, that wiring wrister, and a knack for big-game performances.

Dach has been a bit more up and down in his WHL career, and a bit raw at times. Push comes to shove, he might have the higher ceiling than Cozens and some other factors that make him a more unique player if it comes together.

 

[offdacrossbar]

cozens projects better at wing imo. he could be a gifted pivot but as a scorer, he would thrive on the wall. fine with me

very chytil like but better.

i think cozens has scoring upside that plays better on the edge. thats speed and shot and size, hell be a nice compliment to his twin, chris kreider.

those 2 have similar games just i think cozens has more natural hockey sense on draft day than ck did.

dach has more playmaking skills for the middle.

gimme some cozens and a falling alex newhook and ima happy guy.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Of Cozens and Dach, I'll take Cozens.

Dach is a great prospect but his skating lower his stock in my eyes. Can't take another poor skating center

Agreed. Gonna sound crazy maybe but Dach has almost too long of a reach. Borderline Marc Staal. Obviously he is much more skilled, but is he skilled enough and have quick enough hands when the opposition gets better, faster moving, and available space gets smaller? I’m not sold.