Prospect Info: Down On The Farm (Ads and Glads)

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It may somewhat but not to the extent some might think. NHL refs aren't sweating what some AHL hack thinks about the kid.
The main thing is that if L'Heureux is bitching all the time to refs, he'll just game the same reputation with the NHL refs as he got with the AHL ones. And it might even stand out more to them, because there are fewer young players doing that in the NHL. So again, it will all come down to how L'Heureux himself handles it.

But in the end, I don't think we'll need to care too much. If he gets thrown out of some games or picks up 10 minute misconducts, who cares... if he's also chipping in some offense, getting under the skin of the opponents, and making a positive impact on the ice like he's doing masterfully as a rookie with the Ads so far, then I'm sure we won't care too much if NHL refs also hate him along the way. The whole package will still be fun to watch and help our team.
 

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L'Heureux issue is he is uber competitive ,one of those kids who lives hockey. Its no secret in the QMJHL this is what appealed to the preds probably. He care to much , but I will take it anyday over a Ryan Johansen stoner rich kid type whos answer to everthing is whatever. If L'Heureux turns out the way the Preds hope they will sell alot of jerseys. Everyone on these boards are hockey purest, but NHL makes its money from casual fans who want to be entertained, The only way the NHL stays in competition with other leagues is with the emoition it envokes. No other sport gets you as emotional , or as passionate as hockey. But you need passionate players. Not accountants on skates.
 

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L'Heureux issue is he is uber competitive ,one of those kids who lives hockey. It’s no secret in the QMJHL this is what appealed to the preds probably. He care to much , but I will take it anyday over a Ryan Johansen stoner rich kid type whos answer to everthing is whatever. If L'Heureux turns out the way the Preds hope they will sell alot of jerseys. Everyone on these boards are hockey purest, but NHL makes its money from casual fans who want to be entertained, The only way the NHL stays in competition with other leagues is with the emoition it envokes. No other sport gets you as emotional , or as passionate as hockey. But you need passionate players. Not accountants on skates.
Nobody makes it to the pinnacle of their career field without being Uber competitive. There’s not a single player in the NHL that isn’t Uber competitive. L’Heureux’s problem is not that he is Uber competitive, his problem is that he can’t control his temper, his emotions or his mouth. Maybe that changes when he matures (we can only hope). The players in the AHL already know if they push him hard enough he will snap, that’s why players on other teams crosscheck him and play him dirty. The opposing players may take a 2 minute penalty or two but they know eventually he’ll snap and the Admirals will be down a player for the rest of the game and possibly the next game as well.
 

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Nobody makes it to the pinnacle of their career field without being Uber competitive. There’s not a single player in the NHL that isn’t Uber competitive. L’Heureux’s problem is not that he is Uber competitive, his problem is that he can’t control his temper, his emotions or his mouth. Maybe that changes when he matures (we can only hope). The players in the AHL already know if they push him hard enough he will snap, that’s why players on other teams crosscheck him and play him dirty. The opposing players may take a 2 minute penalty or two but they know eventually he’ll snap and the Admirals will be down a player for the rest of the game and possibly the next game as well.
I'd disagree with the competitive part. They may be competitive, but often the difference between good, great, and the greatest is their own compete level. Jordan had talent, but guys on that level create reasons to go night in and night out. No one in here is going to convince anyone that there was anything Uber competitive about RyJo, except in short spurts in the playoffs.
 

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Nobody makes it to the pinnacle of their career field without being Uber competitive. There’s not a single player in the NHL that isn’t Uber competitive. L’Heureux’s problem is not that he is Uber competitive, his problem is that he can’t control his temper, his emotions or his mouth. Maybe that changes when he matures (we can only hope). The players in the AHL already know if they push him hard enough he will snap, that’s why players on other teams crosscheck him and play him dirty. The opposing players may take a 2 minute penalty or two but they know eventually he’ll snap and the Admirals will be down a player for the rest of the game and possibly the next game as well.
Your wrong! There is thinking your competitive until you run into uber competitive Mark Messier . There are tons of billions of people who make it to the top just because of talent !!! But don't have one give a shit bone in their body.
 

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I don't think the Maple Leafs will win the Stanley cup because Austin Matthews , and William Nylander are not fully competitive . Brad Marchand will punk'em out because they don't really give a shit . They have ungodly TALENT but thats it . The NFL is full of guys who are super talented once they get paid they disappear.
 

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I'd disagree with the competitive part. They may be competitive, but often the difference between good, great, and the greatest is their own compete level. Jordan had talent, but guys on that level create reasons to go night in and night out. No one in here is going to convince anyone that there was anything Uber competitive about RyJo, except in short spurts in the playoffs.
Exactly what was the difference in Dominique Wilkins , and Jordan . I don't think Jordan had more talent.
 

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Nobody makes it to the pinnacle of their career field without being Uber competitive. There’s not a single player in the NHL that isn’t Uber competitive. L’Heureux’s problem is not that he is Uber competitive, his problem is that he can’t control his temper, his emotions or his mouth. Maybe that changes when he matures (we can only hope). The players in the AHL already know if they push him hard enough he will snap, that’s why players on other teams crosscheck him and play him dirty. The opposing players may take a 2 minute penalty or two but they know eventually he’ll snap and the Admirals will be down a player for the rest of the game and possibly the next game as well.
The one misconduct that came from an interaction with another player is when he was straight up raped all over the ice and the refs didn't call any penalties. If he's that big of a hot head and "the players in the AHL already know" what you claim, why is he halfway through the season and there is only one penalty that cost him "the rest of the game"?
 

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I'd disagree with the competitive part. They may be competitive, but often the difference between good, great, and the greatest is their own compete level. Jordan had talent, but guys on that level create reasons to go night in and night out. No one in here is going to convince anyone that there was anything Uber competitive about RyJo, except in short spurts in the playoffs.
You’ll never convince me that someone that is willing to make the sacrifices they have to make their whole life to reach the pinnacle of their career field aren’t competitive by nature. We will have to agree to disagree on this topic.
 

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The one misconduct that came from an interaction with another player is when he was straight up raped all over the ice and the refs didn't call any penalties. If he's that big of a hot head and "the players in the AHL already know" what you claim, why is he halfway through the season and there is only one penalty that cost him "the rest of the game"?
He received another game misconduct on Jan 19th against the Texas Stars which is his 4th or 5th of the season.
 

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You’ll never convince me that someone that is willing to make the sacrifices they have to make their whole life to reach the pinnacle of their career field aren’t competitive by nature. We will have to agree to disagree on this topic.
Competitive sure, " uber competitive " was the term you used, and like I said there has been more than one player in this league that people would refute that level on.

I would put guys like Michael Jordan, Tom Brady, and Lance Armstrong on the " uber competitive" level. I think you would have a hard time convincing anyone else that a player like RyJo was on that same level.
 

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Competitive sure, " uber competitive " was the term you used, and like I said there has been more than one player in this league that people would refute that level on.

I would put guys like Michael Jordan, Tom Brady, and Lance Armstrong on the " uber competitive" level. I think you would have a hard time convincing anyone else that a player like RyJo was on that same level.
You mentioned three people that are Uber competitive AND Uber talented. Ryan Johansen is definitely not Uber talented.
 

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Not sure I'm too worried about that shit at this time. Anyone else that wants to sweat that is more than welcome but if his biggest problem is telling shitty ref that they're shitty I'll pass on the outrage.
I’m not outraged by any means. I don’t think I could care any less if the kid makes it to the NHL or not. I’m just pointing out that his problem isn’t his talent or competitiveness, his problem is he’s a dumbass. The delusional takes on here that he’s Marchand reincarnated are also ridiculous.
 

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You mentioned three people that are Uber competitive AND Uber talented. Ryan Johansen is definitely not Uber talented.
I'd say Ryan Johansen is uber talented . and he coasted all the way to NHL on talent. I've seen it . Everything comes easy till one day it does'nt . Then they find out you have to scratch . and claw for every inch and they never had to do it , so they don' t know how. They become an observer . Then the playoffs start , and you really seperate the wheat from the chaff.
 

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