Donato

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Those teams all could have had Donato at the TDL and none of them valued him enough to push Chicago to trade him.
I think that the Organization wants the team to be more competitive this year. You don't do that by trading one of the top 3 current forwards on the team for a late 1st round that has a 50% chance of a NHL career that might start in 2030'ish. What does it say to Berard if you trade one of the guys currently contributing?

The vast majority of teams will have cap space and looking for a forward upgrade.
 
I think that the Organization wants the team to be more competitive this year. You don't do that by trading one of the top 3 current forwards on the team for a late 1st round that has a 50% chance of a NHL career that might start in 2030'ish. What does it say to Berard if you trade one of the guys currently contributing?

The vast majority of teams will have cap space and looking for a forward upgrade.

There's 20 games left in the season. Donato's been here all year and their in 2nd last place.

I think if CHI had been offered a 1st, they would have jumped at it. I don't think the market was there for Donato, by all accounts. The point of getting the 1st round pick wouldn't even have been to use it on a player at that spot, it likely would have been to add to a deal to move up or use it in a trade to acquire a good player.

Bedard knows what this is I'm sure. He grew up a hockey fan. He knows what a rebuild is. He knows what the roster is. Most of the players on the team right now aren't going to be here in 3 years.
 
You didn’t answer my question. How did it paint him into the corner? It didn’t.

If you don’t understand the difference between the Blackhawks and the Arizona f**king Coyotes I don’t think there is much point in engaging you.
I don't know difference between Arizona and Chicago, I was in believe that players liked Arizona city and team but team didn't have money to win when salaries started go up.
 
I find it hilarious how many people think “we don’t need anymore draft picks” it’s like they weren’t paying attention over the past couple of weeks and didn’t notice that you are actually allowed to trade them for players or perhaps bundle a couple picks to move higher in the draft to select higher end prospects.

At the end of the day if quality offers weren’t there for Donato I have no problem keeping him, it will suck if he walks as a FA and they get nothing for the asset however, Davidson needs to set his price and stick to it otherwise other GMs will learn you can just wait him out because eventually he will cave.
 
let me ask you this. Are teams that our buying retired players contracts to hit league floor a selling point to FA or RFA that hey this is a team serious about taking the next step? Arizona has universally been laughed at for great part of past 5 seasons for doing exactly this and how many big name players have they signed? We now are the new Coyotes. How do think this sits with Connor Bedard? I agree Shea Webber deal can be relagated to LTIR and we can then use that cap as we need but the point is why acquire it in 1st place instead of just trying to get better??? Its like KD waived the flag before season even ended and FA began
If free agent players or their agents are too dumb to understand this move I don’t want them around the team anyway.
 
So uh... is Donato hurt? When is that extension coming?

KD said they weren't going to ship him out for a "mid-round pick" but was there really nobody offering even a 2nd round pick? That would seem far-fetched.
 
So uh... is Donato hurt? When is that extension coming?

KD said they weren't going to ship him out for a "mid-round pick" but was there really nobody offering even a 2nd round pick? That would seem far-fetched.
They only used that clip in the doc to save face.

Extension won't come unless Kyle significantly overpays.

Donato is having a career year, he's going to test the market. He holds all the leverage.
 
They only used that clip in the doc to save face.

Extension won't come unless Kyle significantly overpays.

Donato is having a career year, he's going to test the market. He holds all the leverage.
Not taking what you can get for Donato in a year you're finishing in 31st and then letting him walk into UFA would be a pretty glaring fumble, so I certainly hope that isn't the plan.
 
Not taking what you can get for Donato in a year you're finishing in 31st and then letting him walk into UFA would be a pretty glaring fumble, so I certainly hope that isn't the plan.

That is either the plan, or do overpay for him in an obvious career year.

Both are poor positions.
 
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That is either the plan, or do overpay for him in an obvious career year.

Both are poor positions.
Kinda think you made your bed to make a "whatever it takes" effort to retain him when you chose to let the trade deadline come and go. Either that or you tried to play chicken and lost.
 
My day wouldn’t be complete without someone here spouting off about what happened and what will happen without any knowledge of either.
 
My day wouldn’t be complete without someone here spouting off about what happened and what will happen without any knowledge of either.

My guess is he held out for a first, teams pivoted to backup plans, by the time KD might’ve been able to let him go for less nobody else really needed Donato at that point.
 
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I would like to bring him back.

He's great to have when breaking kids in because he can play center or wing on basically any line you want, be a partner to any type of player besides the really skilled ones.

And most importantly he's a grinder type but not a complete zero on offense. We have so few of those guys.

He's liked in the locker room, he's a pros pro by all accounts. And even if it's not sustainable to this level, he can produce points.

I know I would have preferred a 1st pick too, but honeslty what's not to like in the above package?

Sign him, 3 years whatever cap figure 4-5-6 mil.
 
I would like to bring him back.

He's great to have when breaking kids in because he can play center or wing on basically any line you want, be a partner to any type of player besides the really skilled ones.

And most importantly he's a grinder type but not a complete zero on offense. We have so few of those guys.

He's liked in the locker room, he's a pros pro by all accounts. And even if it's not sustainable to this level, he can produce points.

I know I would have preferred a 1st pick too, but honeslty what's not to like in the above package?

Sign him, 3 years whatever cap figure 4-5-6 mil.
i wouldn't want him at 5 or 6, but besides that i agree.
 
I can't see Donato getting a huge contract from anyone. He is a career 30ish point player. This lone season of him scoring like a top 6 forward will not get him paid like a top 6 forward. It also didn't fool any GM at the deadline.

Having said that, he should get a modest bump in salary because of his season. Maybe something like a 4X4, 5X3.8 or a 3X4.5.
 
Not taking what you can get for Donato in a year you're finishing in 31st and then letting him walk into UFA would be a pretty glaring fumble, so I certainly hope that isn't the plan.
Not really. Difference of opinion I guess but we're going to finish bottom 3 this year regardless, may as well keep what little talent we have and not send a signal to this young team that they're ok with being in the gutter (like San Jose)
 
Not really. Difference of opinion I guess but we're going to finish bottom 3 this year regardless, may as well keep what little talent we have and not send a signal to this young team that they're ok with being in the gutter (like San Jose)
If you want to retain him that’s fine but if a guy has trade value and you just let him leave for nothing that’s a waste of assets. It won’t take a rebuild but it’s still a mistake. Team is in the gutter this season either way.
 
If you want to retain him that’s fine but if a guy has trade value and you just let him leave for nothing that’s a waste of assets. It won’t take a rebuild but it’s still a mistake. Team is in the gutter this season either way.

Wasn't it reported that CHI didn't even get a 2nd round pick offer for him? If you're not getting value for the player, I don't see a problem with keeping him. I'd have a problem if Kyle was turning down legit offers but a 3rd round pick for a guy that's scored 20 ES goals this year, in a sellers market, would have been basically nothing. I just don't want to see him re-signed.
 

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