Dominique Ducharme. Interim head coach of the Habs thread

[BigDaddyLurch]

I know lots of posters hate the thought... But imo he'd be one of the best candidates.

Teacher & student, the kind of leader who will have learnt from his last experiences.

With the roster & prospect pool we have, I think Boucher is well suited to balance getting as much out of them while also building the young players for future success.

Would support that hire... But also needs a competent GM to be hired at same time.

...so after all these years, Boucher is Coming...

...someone needs to find that jpeg...

 

[David Suzuki]

I know lots of posters hate the thought... But imo he'd be one of the best candidates.

Teacher & student, the kind of leader who will have learnt from his last experiences.

With the roster & prospect pool we have, I think Boucher is well suited to balance getting as much out of them while also building the young players for future success.

Would support that hire... But also needs a competent GM to be hired at same time.

He's as close to a New Brunswicker as we'll ever get as a coach so I'd take it

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

He's taking a lot of heat - deservedly so - for his choices in OT. The Dannault stuff has got to stop.

All that aside, I'm quite happy with the job he's done overall. What a difference he's made to KK's game and to the PP. He's been hindered by the Chairot injury and being forced to play freaking Ouellet and Mete... not a coaching problem.

Still not perfect but definitely an improvement.

 

[JianYang]

They're just going to hire shitty coaches who speak English next

The depth in the French speaking coaching pool has been shallow for a very long time. When they hired MT 2.0, the alternative was Crawford, and his French isn't the best. Either way, thats not a great alternative.

When Julien was hired, there were no other name brand option either.

This year, Gerrard Gallant is sitting on the sidelines, and I think he would be the best coach for the habs in a very long time. He even has a history with the organization. I'd think they would love to have him on board if not for the self imposed handicap.

I think the habs have settled on a coaching development system where they hire a French speaking coach from within.... So we are probably looking at guys like Bouchard, and maybe even burrows in due time.

But in that case, it almost assuredly means that ducharme will be back, and quite frankly, he probably should be back if you want to give him a fair chance.

 

[TouzY]

I will say this though....Ducharme is immensely dissapointing right now. It's out of character to be that prudent. He can't be that dumb. And at this point, there's just NO WAY he gets the team next year if that continues. Not sure why he doesn'T see that.

you say there is no way he gets the team next year if he keeps it up ? Have you met Bergevin ? He has a blindfold on

 

[expy]

you say there is no way he gets the team next year if he keeps it up ? Have you met Bergevin ? He has a blindfold on

Hopefully Bergevin is out by the time the coaching decision is finalized.
I’m afraid he’s going to hand out payouts before he gets canned.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Hopefully Bergevin is out by the time the coaching decision is finalized.
I’m afraid he’s going to hand out payouts before he gets canned.

If Molson actually has any cojones, he won't let Bargain Bin do a damn thing until he's fired and someone who doesn't just covet grinders and "hometown players" takes over...I know, high hopes, but Molson has to see what's plain for everyone to see; Bargain Bin has no plan but to chase his tail in a circle ad naseum...

 

[sampollock]

Dominique Ducharme spoke to the media and admitted that it's become a mental thing that has crept into the player's heads.
"At one point, it is mental. What we need is to bury one and get that over with. If we do that last night, probably everyone's talking about what a character team we are, coming back & tying the game with one minute... our guys for sure they think about it when the time comes and I'm sure a guy like Andy (Anderson) going on a breakaway, he's probably putting more pressure on himself thinking 'I'm going to end it this time' and what happens? You miss it so year, it's a part of it but we have to stick with it and next time we'll get it"

 

[Hoochi Papa]

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[Spearmint Rhino]

Dominique Ducharme spoke to the media and admitted that it's become a mental thing that has crept into the player's heads.
"At one point, it is mental. What we need is to bury one and get that over with. If we do that last night, probably everyone's talking about what a character team we are, coming back & tying the game with one minute... our guys for sure they think about it when the time comes and I'm sure a guy like Andy (Anderson) going on a breakaway, he's probably putting more pressure on himself thinking 'I'm going to end it this time' and what happens? You miss it so year, it's a part of it but we have to stick with it and next time we'll get it"

It’s mental alright, how he looks at that bench and picks the 2 worst goal scorers to start OT with our best (and really only) offensive D-man in B2B games is a committable offense.

 

[River Meadow]

Best coach ever

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Best coach ever

 

[LeHab]

Ducharme wants best odds at winning faceoffs in OT:

Danault: 51.8%
Kotkaniemi: 48.7%

That is 1 or 2 more FOs won per 100....ok...

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Ducharme wants best odds at winning faceoffs in OT:

Danault: 51.8%
Kotkaniemi: 48.7%

That is 1 or 2 more FOs won per 100....ok...

...and how's that worked for the Habs so far??...0-9 in OT...

 

[Natey]

How did Danault reclaimed spot No1 when he doesn't play with the best wingers of the team? Wasn't it the whole point of our whining about hims playing with, at the time, the 2 two best wingers in TAtar and Gallagher? Are TAtar and Gallagher the 2 best wingers of our team? Is Danault playing on the PP making him for sure a No1 C as every No1 C plays on the PP?

I mean, #1 centre is generally defined by most ES TOI. Special teams are different. Unless you're saying MAB was one of our top defenseman because we used him on the PP cause of his shot....

 

[BehindTheTimes]

I know lots of posters hate the thought... But imo he'd be one of the best candidates.

Teacher & student, the kind of leader who will have learnt from his last experiences.

With the roster & prospect pool we have, I think Boucher is well suited to balance getting as much out of them while also building the young players for future success.

Would support that hire... But also needs a competent GM to be hired at same time.

I never liked Guy Boucher as a coach. In the end these guys matter very little imo. DD was supposed to be our saviour from big bad CJ, but he isn’t and never was. I don’t think the team changes until MB is gone.

 

[salbutera]

Starts and ends with Molson (or whoever the next owner is of the Montreal Canadiens). He needs to step and show some leadership, and make it known their hiring policy is going to change moving forward. If anyone doesn't like it then they can stop following the team. Until he takes a stand, nothing will change.

Mtl Canadiens are billion $ business, and Mtl largest economy (trickle down impact on restaurants/ bars etc during non pandemic times)....sure they’re going to chance bringing bad PR which could potentially harm the economy (even moreso after the effects of this pandemic), just to keep an insignificant % of “diehard fans” happy...

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Mtl Canadiens are billion $ business, and Mtl largest economy (trickle down impact on restaurants/ bars etc during non pandemic times)....sure they’re going to chance bringing bad PR which could potentially harm the economy (even moreso after the effects of this pandemic), just to keep an insignificant % of “diehard fans” happy...

I really don’t think the coaching language thing is an issue. I’m not Francophone or from Quebec, but I think it makes sense picking a coach who can communicate in both languages. The problem, to me is we don’t do a good enough job finding the right ones. Typically we have done things a bit backwards in that regard imo. When we were a transitioning team for 6-7 years under MB’s direction we should have a hired someone with a proven track record in working with youth and developing them along the way. The idea that the NHL is not a developmental league is misused and avoids context.
When MB thinks he’s got a competitive team with a chance to compete he fired the win now type of coach and brings in a rookie. Nothing against DD, he may turnout to be a good NHL coach, but I find the approach a bit backwards. Michel Therrien was a terrible hire imo. The guy openly bashed our top dman in public many times prior to being hired and his ego wouldn’t let him put those personal grievances aside in order to Harness the talent PK had. Instead he publicly criticized him for making errors in post game scrums. Him and his foxhole buddy needed a scapegoat and forced him out of town. PK had his warts, but they fumbled his development and seemed to put their personal dislike for the player first over the impact he had on the team. The bridge deal, followed by arbitration etc. Even the way he was deployed was a major step back from what Jacques Martin had done with him.
When you have 2 people in charge that lack intelligence this is what you get. Valuations based on personality rather than performance. Unable to see the good PK brought and instead focused on all his flaws.
Weber is a shell of himself signed until the end of 25-26 while PK is also struggling his contract ends 21-22. With PK I think he will find his game again and looks likes he is looking better recently. Last year is really the only year Weber outperformed PK. I am even of the opinion that the trade actually hurt PK’s performance and he may have been an even better player if the Habs brass kept him and made marketing campaigns around him and embraced his outgoing personality.
For all the leadership qualities and intangibles Weber was supposed to bring with him it has never really shown up where it matters, on the ice.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Well,

He put KK on to start in OT. If it were CJ or MT it'd still have been Danno. At least this guy is capable of making a change.

Terrible in OT again last night though. We've got work to do on that. You gotta practice it a bit anyway.

 

[DAChampion]

I don't understand how many of you guys have already given up on him.

 

[Deebs]

I don't understand how many of you guys have already given up on him.

It's the Habs fans way

 

[Whitesnake]

I don't understand how many of you guys have already given up on him.

There's always hope. Dissapointing doesn't mean given up.

 

[DAChampion]

There's always hope. Dissapointing doesn't mean given up.

Ok, fair enough.

What would you like to see, and what do you think is a reasonable time frame to see it?

 

[Whitesnake]

Well,

He put KK on to start in OT. If it were CJ or MT it'd still have been Danno. At least this guy is capable of making a change.

Terrible in OT again last night though. We've got work to do on that. You gotta practice it a bit anyway.

And JK was just as awful as Danault was at the start of it. Losing the puck like that....hopefully it's all in the bag of experience. But it's not helping right now either. At this point, start the OT with Suzuki. Especially with his new found confidence. Suzuki and Anderson.

 

[Whitesnake]

Ok, fair enough.

What would you like to see, and what do you think is a reasonable time frame to see it?

Well the Danault line together is perfect in 5 on 5. Their advanced stats are off the chart. Those guys should stick together so that's a good move by DD. But that OT start with Danault and Byron has to stop. THat OT mentality has to be more all in than protect the lost. I guess we will revise all at the end of the year.....but something tells me we won't have the result needed...and I don't see how you can officialize a losing coach.....unless you are in the Nick Carrière school mentality....