Speculation: Domi Mega Thread

[Junohockeyfan]

Those deals were signed in this cap range or lower, so why is domi less?

Those deals were signed with the expectation of a year to year rising cap. ie they become less of an impact over time. With flat cap, deals will be less inflated.

 

[Chayos]

Those deals were signed with the expectation of a year to year rising cap. ie they become less of an impact over time. With flat cap, deals will be less inflated.

So you are saying Domi will sign a team friendly long term deal with Montreal, who has lots of cap space to play on the 4th line just because the cap stayed flat? If you add in the higher rate for escrow short term, it seems hard to believe players will get less than the market set for similar player in the last few years when their deals were signed at lower cap amount than now.

Domi will cost $5.0-5.5 for aone year deal and 6.5-7.0 on a long term deal.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Those deals were signed in this cap range or lower, so why is domi less?

You don't know the answer to that? Flat cap means that you have to deal with what you have on the books and the space you have left. Because it did not grow, some teams don't have much if any cap space at all. There is going to be a trend of contracts signed that are lower than expected.... especially when there might be a flat cap for 2 or 3 years!

The stars will still get paid but 2nd tier talent like Domi will have a hard time getting the deals they would get if the cap grew to the projected $84M - $88M range before Covid 19.

Domi might have gotten $7M with a $84M - $88M cap but with a flat cap of $81.5M, it's probably closer to $6M now. But term is the key here. Some players might take less term so they can cash in when Seattle and US TV deal revenue bumps it up substantially

 

[Habs Halifax]

So you are saying Domi will sign a team friendly long term deal with Montreal, who has lots of cap space to play on the 4th line just because the cap stayed flat? If you add in the higher rate for escrow short term, it seems hard to believe players will get less than the market set for similar player in the last few years when their deals were signed at lower cap amount than now.

Domi will cost $5.0-5.5 for aone year deal and 6.5-7.0 on a long term deal.

Domi might start at $7M but the Habs probably start at $5.5M... depends on term. I think $6M for 5 or 6 years is the right deal. He won't get more than Nylander. $6M - $6.5M is the right range for a 5 or 6 year deal.

 

[deca guard]

not that i love klef but oil need d big time . if im oil im looking at moving rnh for an offensively talented pp qb'ing dman . ide also make an offer to ufa pieterangelo or krug . plus if oil could sign pietrangelo he could mentor bouchard n broberg

 

[ConnorMcNugesaitl]

Wouldn't trade Klefbom or Nurse for Domi, not sure why that idea keeps being pushed.

 

[ConnorMcNugesaitl]

not that i love klef but oil need d big time . if im oil im looking at moving rnh for an offensively talented pp qb'ing dman . ide also make an offer to ufa pieterangelo or krug . plus if oil could sign pietrangelo he could mentor bouchard n broberg

You seem to have very little knowledge of the Oilers if you'd move RNH for a power play quarterback.

Maybe check where their power play ranked this season and how badly they need forwards who can contribute especially after AA was a complete bust.

 

[deca guard]

You seem to have very little knowledge of the Oilers if you'd move RNH for a power play quarterback.

Maybe check where their power play ranked this season and how badly they need forwards who can contribute especially after AA was a complete bust.

you think maybe mcd and drys had something to do with the pp success ? theres not one d on that roster that impresses with their offensive talent

 

[Blaine8797]

Betting on Broberg or Bouchard to be a top pairing defenseman next year is a recipe for disaster much like trading your best defenseman to replace him with a rookie is a disaster.

Robbing Peter and Paul or something something.

I don’t think you can downgrade much on nurse

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Absolutely terrible deal. Other teams aren't trying to help Montreal like some of their fans seem to think

 

[The Moose is Loose]

I don’t think you can downgrade much on nurse

Well that the stupidest thing I've read today

 

[TFHockey]

not that i love klef but oil need d big time . if im oil im looking at moving rnh for an offensively talented pp qb'ing dman . ide also make an offer to ufa pieterangelo or krug . plus if oil could sign pietrangelo he could mentor bouchard n broberg

The Oilers have the best powerplay in the league. What the hell are you talking about?

 

[BatVader]

I think people are forgetting Chiarelli isn’t GM in Edmonton anymore.
I don’t see the Oilers moving one of their main D for anything but an upgrade to D

 

[Boondock]

Domi might start at $7M but the Habs probably start at $5.5M... depends on term. I think $6M for 5 or 6 years is the right deal. He won't get more than Nylander. $6M - $6.5M is the right range for a 5 or 6 year deal.

Or Domi could sign a 2-3 year bridge deal that would walk him past the frozen cap and into free-agency when the new USA tv deal is on the books. Without knowing how negotiations are going to go, you can't really attach value to a player based on what he could potentially do with future contracts.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

not that i love klef but oil need d big time . if im oil im looking at moving rnh for an offensively talented pp qb'ing dman . ide also make an offer to ufa pieterangelo or krug . plus if oil could sign pietrangelo he could mentor bouchard n broberg

Edmonton had the best powerplay in the NHL in the last 30 years.

The last thing we need is to trade RNH for a PPQB, honestly.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Or Domi could sign a 2-3 year bridge deal that would walk him past the frozen cap and into free-agency when the new USA tv deal is on the books. Without knowing how negotiations are going to go, you can't really attach value to a player based on what he could potentially do with future contracts.

No... Habs are in control here. That's what RFA means. Domi went from 72 pts then to a prorated 50 this past year. Habs will take it to arbitration if we have too and he gets a 1 year deal based on his numbers, not potential. Then he is still RFA the year after. This buys us time to evaluate him more and possibly work on a trade and not be desperate to move him.

If we find a trade that fits, we can allow the other team to negotiate a extension before the trade is official.

Sorry... Habs are not trading Domi for a 2 year contract and then possibly UFA.

 

[Boondock]

No... Habs are in control here. That's what RFA means. Domi went from 72 pts then to a prorated 50 this past year. Habs will take it to arbitration if we have too and he gets a 1 year deal based on his numbers, not potential. Then he is still RFA the year after. This buys us time to evaluate him more and possibly work on a trade and not be desperate to move him.

If we find a trade that fits, we can allow the other team to negotiate a extension before the trade is official.

Sorry... Habs are not trading Domi for a 2 year contract and then possibly UFA.

No need to apologize. I'm not an oiler fan, but I wouldn't trade Klef for Domi under any circumstance. Domi is a fine player, but he's a 0.66 pts/gm winger that can step in an play C if needed. 3 years of a very good cap hit for a dman playing top pairing is more valuable than 2nd line winger. I also think you're optimistic if you don't think the player has options.

 

[Habs Halifax]

No need to apologize. I'm not an oiler fan, but I wouldn't trade Klef for Domi under any circumstance. Domi is a fine player, but he's a 0.66 pts/gm winger that can step in an play C if needed. 3 years of a very good cap hit for a dman playing top pairing is more valuable than 2nd line winger. I also think you're optimistic if you don't think the player has options.

Domi as a RFA does not have as much options as the team does. Reality. Habs can go to arbitration for 1 year deal if Domi ask for too much on a 5 or 6 year term. It's the opposite of what you said... I think you are optimistic if you think Domi has control here.

- Sign him to a 6 year $6M contract
or
- Sign him to a 1 year deal after arbitration. He has 2 RFA years left
or
- See what we can get on the trade market and no... we are not looking for a player with 2 or 3 years with term at LD.

Plus Klefbom is not likely to get traded. Oilers need to keep their D in tack and improve it, not rip it apart. Regardless, I rather trade a 2nd and two 4ths for Leddy with retention and keep Domi vs trade Domi for Klefbom. Not trading Domi for a 2 or 3 year contract in return. Not going to happen if I was the GM. He says a Habs

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

At this point Domi is a center not sure why people are calling him a winger.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

At this point Domi is a center not sure why people are calling him a winger.

In Edmonton, he would be a winger. Playing him at 3C would be a waste and he's not playing above McD or Drai.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

In Edmonton, he would be a winger. Playing him at 3C would be a waste and he's not playing above McD or Drai.

True I just don't think s trade between the oilers and Habs makes any sense.

 

[Blaine8797]

Well that the stupidest thing I've read today

Have you ever actually looked at his advanced statistics and how he was in the bottom ten percentile in his defensive ability clearly not

 

[Techcoockie]

Better value than the Drouin for Girard
Domi would fit well with Kadri, or centering the third line.



Who says no and yes ?

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

Don’t know how much Colorado needs Domi, but they need Godard. Can’t see them doing this.

 

[Mavrik112]

What’s up with Girard? Why is there so many habs fans obsessed with him?