Does LA resign Lizotte?

[apocalypse]

He was also miscast as a top 6 center next to Carter to start the year, struggled and appeared to lose a lot of confidence.

He's an ideal player for this team now and will be the perfect 13th forward once the roster evolves. Hell, I think Lizotte has been the teams second most valuable player thus far behind Danault. Nobody has done more to put the momentum and tone of each game in the Kings favor than Lizotte. His line propelled the team after Kopitar, Danault and Iafallo cooled off and they haven't looked back since.

Lizotte is the reason the Kings are where they are right now.

 

[DoktorJeep]

It’s helped that Lizotte has been paired with Lemieux.

 

[Maynard]

Lizotte is the reason the Kings are where they are right now.

This is a stretch. If all the credit goes to the 4th line center, we got problems. Nothing against Lizotte but he is not “the reason”. Just wish he could do something about the acne. Kid looks like Thomas J after he played soccer with that beehive.

 

[Pucknut50]

Hell ya. He will be a minimum wage or close to minimum wage player. He is a balls out puck hound. Spark like that is contagious.

no one has outplayed him yet and if he is the 13th forward filling in for injuries etc that would also be fine.

love his work ethic, he definitely in his role is not hurting the team.

Definitely our Energizer Bunny.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

This is a stretch. If all the credit goes to the 4th line center, we got problems. Nothing against Lizotte but he is not “the reason”. Just wish he could do something about the acne. Kid looks like Thomas J after he played soccer with that beehive.

It's definitely more nuanced than that but they are playing a large part. The 1st line is the only one constantly on the wrong side of the ledger; the 2nd line is one of the best in the league. The third line keeps changing, has no identity, and next to no ice time; the 'fourth' line has brought stability and ++ play all season long. It's the 2nd and 4th line winning the GF/GA battle that's winning us games.

 

[apocalypse]

This is a stretch. If all the credit goes to the 4th line center, we got problems. Nothing against Lizotte but he is not “the reason”. Just wish he could do something about the acne. Kid looks like Thomas J after he played soccer with that beehive.

Once Lizotte started playing good, getting the cycle going and grinding, the team seemed to take off. Danault was also doing his thing, but I think Lizotte coincides with the resurgence of the Kings. I don't think he was single-handedly responsible for the turnaround, but maybe a result of the improved play. I think he's come into his own this season and needs to be resigned.

 

[Crown Royal]

The other player lost in the mix is Akil Thomas who has taken a while to get track from the shoulder surgeries. It won’t be until next year when we start debating if he gets a cup of coffee but the organization holds him in very high regards by all accounts.

Maybe that’s true but currently he looks absolutely lost out on the ice.

 

[mysterman2]

Dont look now but JAD has 18 goals & 33 pts - good enough for 2nd on the Reign. Huge Log Jam at center and while I really like Lizotte have to wonder how deep can they go in a playoff run with an undersized center who gets ragdolled in the regular season. Once again- hats off to him and hes been fantastic but from a long term team building perspective not sure what the Kings have in mind.

 

[johnjm22]

Lizotte's play had dropped off a little bit recently. Still solid, just not as good. The way he was playing previously was probably unsustainable.

 

[King'sPawn]

Dont look now but JAD has 18 goals & 33 pts - good enough for 2nd on the Reign. Huge Log Jam at center and while I really like Lizotte have to wonder can how go deep with an undersized center who gets ragdolled in the regular season. Once again- hats off to him and hes been fantastic but from a long term team building perspective not sure what the Kings have in mind.

I still think Lizotte has earned a contract. As much as his motor is, though, he does lack the strength to stay on his feet.

Not that he should be the 13th forward, either. It's just a difficult conversation.

Edit: QDP

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Are you f***ing kidding me with the thread bump just to be outraged by an innocuous month old comment? Jesus Christ, no.

 

[No Name The Nameless]

What’s worse, making a joke about acne or calling someone a brainless twat?

 

[No Name The Nameless]

Anyways, Liz has done an admirable job. With that said, the position is easily filled by a potential impact 4th liner in JAD. That line will not be a line next season so chemistry isn’t an issue. I think JAD can do what Liz has done, plus adds some offensive upside at a cheaper rate.

 

[kings11]

Anyways, Liz has done an admirable job. With that said, the position is easily filled by a potential impact 4th liner in JAD. That line will not be a line next season so chemistry isn’t an issue. I think JAD can do what Liz has done, plus adds some offensive upside at a cheaper rate.

In all honesty, JAD hasn’t and can’t do what tiny Blake has done and is still doing.. if he could, he’d be with the big club already..
JAD is likely to get another I think, unless he’s moved for a LHD. He would look good playing with QB but I’d reserve that spot for GV.. he’ll likely play on wing on the 4th line and maybe this time he’ll get enough time to prove his worth as an NHLer.

 

[No Name The Nameless]

In all honesty, JAD hasn’t and can’t do what tiny Blake has done and is still doing.. if he could, he’d be with the big club already..
JAD is likely to get another I think, unless he’s moved for a LHD. He would look good playing with QB but I’d reserve that spot for GV.. he’ll likely play on wing on the 4th line and maybe this time he’ll get enough time to prove his worth as an NHLer.

I’m not knocking Lizotte here but what is he doing that JAD cannot do? Serious question.

 

[kings11]

I’m not knocking Lizotte here but what is he doing that JAD cannot do? Serious question.

At the NHL level he’s able to effectively keep plays alive, forecheck, play stout defense and despite his diminutive size play along the wall against much bigger players..
I had very high hopes for JAD and even went as far and to say he had a JDub vibe to him but for whatever reason he just hasn’t been able to stick..
Maybe he’s a late bloomer but with the talent in Ontario and what’s coming in with Helenius, Lee, Chromiak, Simontaival and maybe Jameson.. he needs to stick in his next opportunity unless of course he’s moved for a Soucy type player

 

[No Name The Nameless]

At the NHL level he’s able to effective keep plays alive, forecheck, play stout defense and despite his diminutive size play along the wall against much bigger players..
I had very high hopes for JAD and even went as far and to say he had a JDub vibe to him but for whatever reason he just hasn’t been able to stick..
Maybe he’s a late bloomer but with the talent in Ontario and what’s coming in with Helenius, Lee, Chromiak, Simontaival and maybe Jameson.. he needs to stick he next opportunity unless of course he’s moved for a Soucy type player

All of the positives that you mentioned regarding Lizotte are also strengths of JAD. I’d wager that if JAD was asked to only do those things he would do just as good or better. Lizzotte is an undrafted 5’7 170. This is the most that we can expect out of him. JAD is a highly regarded two way player.

Remember that JAD was asked to be what Lizotte is last year and he was great at it. He was sent down to continue to develop his offense and he’s done that. There is a reason why he’s been compared to Eric Belanger.

 

[kings11]

All of the positives that you mentioned regarding Lizotte are also strengths of JAD. I’d wager that if JAD was asked to only do those things he would do just as good or better. Lizzotte is an undrafted 5’7 170. This is the most that we can expect out of him. JAD is a highly regarded two way player.

Remember that JAD was asked to be what Lizotte is last year and he was great at it. He was sent down to continue to develop his offense and he’s done that. There is a reason why he’s been compared to Eric Belanger.

All of the positives that you mentioned regarding Lizotte are also strengths of JAD. I’d wager that if JAD was asked to only do those things he would do just as good or better. Lizzotte is an undrafted 5’7 170. This is the most that we can expect out of him. JAD is a highly regarded two way player.

Remember that JAD was asked to be what Lizotte is last year and he was great at it. He was sent down to continue to develop his offense and he’s done that. There is a reason why he’s been compared to Eric Belanger.

I’ll respectfully disagree, JAD has hasn’t been able to replicate what Lizotte is doing and that’s the reason he’s in Ontario..
Offensively, he’s looked much the same and has had his offensive explosion when he was paired with Tynan.. which to me is indicative of Tynan’s ability to make his teammates better than JAD finally figuring it out. As a whole, if he’s to succeed he’ll need to be put on the 3rd line and given the opportunity to play out the rest of the year there. I don’t see the point of bringing up JAD as a 4th line grinder..
I also don’t see where he fits this season as Kaliyev isnt moving off the 3rd line and if AA gets moved, Vilardi is the guy that needs to be in that spot..
JAD would probably shine on the Danault line but we all know that isn’t happening, the kid is likely to finish in Ontario and will get his chance again next season unless he’s moved.. and I know I keep repeating that but I thinks he’s a kid teams will ask for

 

[mysterman2]

Lizotte 21-22 GP 44 G 6 A 8 PTS 14 PPG .318
JAD 20-21 GP 34 G 7 A 4 PTS 11 PPG .323

Overall, full season in the AHL going to pay huge dividends for JAD but the numbers speak for themselves. JAD is almost a PPG player in the AHL with .94 PPG while being 2 years younger and had better PPG stats last season on a Kings team that had none of the depth this years team has. Not unrealistic to think JAD would have matched or bettered last seasons stats.

 

[kings11]

Lizotte 21-22 GP 44 G 6 A 8 PTS 14 PPG .318
JAD 20-21 GP 34 G 7 A 4 PTS 11 PPG .323

Overall, full season in the AHL going to pay huge dividends for JAD but the numbers speak for themselves. JAD is almost a PPG player in the AHL with .94 PPG while being 2 years younger and had better PPG stats last season on a Kings team that had none of the depth this years team has. Not unrealistic to think JAD would have matched or bettered last seasons stats.

And was the forechecking, defense, and really his overall play at Lizotte’s current level?
Do you recall on whose wing JAD played on that helped him get those tallies?

 

[mysterman2]

And was the forechecking, defense, and really his overall play at Lizotte’s current level?
Do you recall on whose wing JAD played on that helped him get those tallies?

No...feel free to research and get back to me. But without doing research and given the Kings forward depth better this year think its a moot point. Off the top of my head- was he paired with Wagner?

 

[Schmooley]

And was the forechecking, defense, and really his overall play at Lizotte’s current level?
Do you recall on whose wing JAD played on that helped him get those tallies?

He was with Moore and Grundstrom and that was a good line

 

[kings11]

He was with Moore and Grundstrom and that was a good line

Correct, a well rounded and skillful line..
That’s how he should be deployed not on the 4th… these kids will succeed when they’re placed in situations that allow them to play to their strengths…
Byfield/Turcotte/Kupari with Brown = bad
JAD with Lizotte and Pepe = okay-ish
JAD with QB or PD = great
Sorry but I’m too damn lazy to type out long explanations.. I think you get my point

 

[No Name The Nameless]

I’ll respectfully disagree, JAD has hasn’t been able to replicate what Lizotte is doing and that’s the reason he’s in Ontario..
Offensively, he’s looked much the same and has had his offensive explosion when he was paired with Tynan.. which to me is indicative of Tynan’s ability to make his teammates better than JAD finally figuring it out. As a whole, if he’s to succeed he’ll need to be put on the 3rd line and given the opportunity to play out the rest of the year there. I don’t see the point of bringing up JAD as a 4th line grinder..
I also don’t see where he fits this season as Kaliyev isnt moving off the 3rd line and if AA gets moved, Vilardi is the guy that needs to be in that spot..
JAD would probably shine on the Danault line but we all know that isn’t happening, the kid is likely to finish in Ontario and will get his chance again next season unless he’s moved.. and I know I keep repeating that but I thinks he’s a kid teams will ask for

JAD is a highly drafted, highly rated prospect.
To say that his offensive success is due to being paired with Tynan is a gross simplification, or blatant sensationalism.

 

[kings11]

JAD is a highly drafted, highly rated prospect.
To say that his offensive success is due to being paired with Tynan is a gross simplification, or blatant sensationalism.

It’s actually not, I think it points to him being better suited to being at the wing rather than center.
Being the primary playmaker as he was expected to be isnt that far off from what was done with Kempe at center and now with Kupari..
If you look at his scouting reports, it’s always a scoring center who can occasionally pass.. Truth is, he’s a scoring winger who was missed casted as a center.. you throw him on any of the top 9 lines and I think he’d continue his scoring but throw him in to replace Lizotte and you’ll be stuck with a grinder who won’t score how he’s capable of and you’d be throwing away a kid who could potentially be a valuable 3rd liner..