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Does LA resign Lizotte?

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Telos said:
It's pretty much impossible not to re-sign him. He, along with Lemieux and Danault, are the soul and heart of the current team. He has overcome all adversity and while he still gets ragdolled every game, he has turned into a mascot of energy and compete. He is this team's Rudy, and to kick him off, while he is performing, would be a devastating blow to morale.
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Yeah, he just gets drilled game after game and continues to get back up. I think he's earned his next contract. JAD is interesting. Doing so good until the injury and really hasn't been the same. I thought for sure he was a lock at 4th line center by now.
 
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has a 4th line center on a successful or even interesting non-"full-blown-rebuild" roster ever been a highly touted prospect?
 
All The Kings Men said:
has a 4th line center on a successful or even interesting non-"full-blown-rebuild" roster ever been a highly touted prospect?
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That’s the rub tho right? I was thinking that JAD could lock that spot down in a roll four lines kinda way. Turcotte as a 5th overall pick in that spot is not good optics.
 
Hasn't JAD been playing on the wing this entire season in Ontario? It's probably where he's best suited and he seems to be excelling there. In regards to Turcotte I'm with RJ in that they start him at wing but eventually move him to center. Didn't Claude Giroux start as a winger in Philadelphia? Same thing. Vilardi is also a full-time winger at this point and is also now doing well there in Ontario.
 
regulate said:
This is an expanded list, and the more likely scenario (Kings RFA's listed)

I think everyone of these players will be qualified and will get contracts if they don't outright sign an extension prior to the qualification deadline.

Kempe
Lemieux
Lizotte
Grundstrom
Durzi
Anderson
Vilardi
Anderson-Dolan
Moverare

Probable, but not a sure thing, maybe a one year deal

Villalta
Strand
Andersson

Possible, but treading water

Phillips (only 22)
Sodergran (only 22)

Not likely

Tkachev
Burke

And of course some of these guys could be moved in minor trades or packaged in a bigger deal in the off season.
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That's a good point. I forgot to think of the actual minor-league players who will need to be re-signed (I didn't look far enough in CapFriendly).

I believe that means Durzi, Anderson, Vilardi, JAD, Moverare, Villalta, Strand, Andersson, Phillips, Sodergran, Tkachev, and Burke would all need to clear waivers to play in the AHL.
 
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You asked me before the season started I would've said yes, now I think its impossible to not have him. I really want JAD to take over the spot eventually, but I can't justify that based on lizotte's play this year
 
kingsboy11 said:
You asked me before the season started I would've said yes, now I think its impossible to not have him. I really want JAD to take over the spot eventually, but I can't justify that based on lizotte's play this year
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This confuses me so much. If JAD is that much better than Lizotte... then he's more valuable as a third liner or a trade piece.

4th line Center is not a "placeholder" position. It's a roster spot you fill with someone that can do the job. Lizotte does it excellently.
 
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LAKings88 said:
I honestly haven’t been happy since I heard Fox’s comments on your show. I like Turcotte and hope he can contribute but I’d say those optics have already started to raise questions. At least for me anyway.
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I thought Jim said Turcotte was taken as a 3rd line center no?

I understand why people might be frustrated by that and I should have asked him to clarify in the moment because I don't think I agree with it either BUT... I'm not sure what it has to do with Lizotte.
 
Lizotte has solidified his spot. He's what I expected JAD to be, and it's not like he's a lot older. I think JAD is destined to be moved, even though the skill and effort is there. I can't think of any scenario where Lizotte does not get a new contract.
 
All The Kings Men said:
I thought Jim said Turcotte was taken as a 3rd line center no?

I understand why people might be frustrated by that and I should have asked him to clarify in the moment because I don't think I agree with it either BUT... I'm not sure what it has to do with Lizotte.
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Lizotte is just another center spot that Turcotte won’t fill. Which means LA drafted a 3rd line center at number five, ahead of likely better options, to now play wing. Fox even commented on Fagemo maybe being more productive in that role. For me it’s compounded by the fact that Zegras was debated by LAs own scouts prior to that pick.
 
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LAKings88 said:
Lizotte is just another center spot that Turcotte won’t fill. Which means LA drafted a 3rd line center at number five, ahead of likely better options, to now play wing. Fix even commented on Fagemo maybe being more productive on that role. For me it’s compounded by the fact that Zegras was debated by LAs own scouts prior to that pick.
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Why would that compound things? Under the same theory, that spot wouldn't be there for TZ either, with Kopitar-Danault-Byfield-Lizotte, right?
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:
Why would that compound things? Under the same theory, that spot wouldn't be there for TZ either, with Kopitar-Danault-Byfield-Lizotte, right?
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Possibly, maybe he gets the 3C spot prior to Byfield. He had a great WJC after his draft. Lot of variables of course. You could talk about Seider too. What’s done is done. But if they new his upside was 3c center I very much question that pick.
 
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LAKings88 said:
Possibly, maybe he gets the 3C spot prior to Byfield. He had a great WJC after his draft. Lot of variables of course. You could talk about Seider too. What’s done is done. But if they new his upside was 3c center I very much question that pick.
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If he does, then you have that problem with Byfield-Zegras instead of Byfield-Turcotte. I guess my point is that reads more like "I wish they would have picked Zegras" than anything to do with a slot for Turcotte, an opinion I know others share and no offense intended but it doesn't change the issue (and if they had picked Seider same thing but at RHD instead of C :laugh:).

I do agree with you though that that comment was very worrisome. And that Blake has sort of painted himself into a corner here. I'm eager to see what happens next, this is the inflection point at which Rob has some very difficult decisions to make and ultimately this deadline through the end of next season may ultimately determine the success of his tenure and how we view what he's started to put together.
 
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LAKings88 said:
Possibly, maybe he gets the 3C spot prior to Byfield. He had a great WJC after his draft. Lot of variables of course. You could talk about Seider too. What’s done is done. But if they new his upside was 3c center I very much question that pick.
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Are we talking about 3C like Shore/Vey or 3C like Danault? Because an elite shutdown guy is different from say Lewis.

Kopi is signed 2 more seasons & is turning 35 this year. As far as where is Turcotte is going to play, there's going to be a center spot open in the near future. Turcotte may need to start at wing. He may get extra time in the AHL. None of this matters, because the team is transitioning.

Byfield, Danault, Turcotte in a few years looks pretty good.
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:
I do agree with you though that that comment was very worrisome. And that Blake has sort of painted himself into a corner here. I'm eager to see what happens next, this is the inflection point at which Rob has some very difficult decisions to make and ultimately this deadline through the end of next season may ultimately determine the success of his tenure and how we view what he's started to put together.
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Absolutely. Even those of us who are quite patient and are fine with things playing out know that the upcoming evaluation of prospects and resulting trades are what is going to define this team. Lombardi, as well as he understood development and infrastructure, wasn't a GM that is good at drafting and developing highly skilled players that match today's NHL. What he absolutely excelled at was identifying players who fit his vision and knowing which prospects to give up to acquire them.

I think we are just starting to see what Blake ultimately is going for, and it's starting to look promising, but how he consolidates all those assets into something that can potentially win a cup will be what he is judged by.
 
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