Do you like this team?

[IPS]

The Leafs and the Jets are the class of the division. If the Jets can add another good D man they can give the Leafs some real trouble.

You ever take a second to look at the standings?

Jets don't deserve a classification alongside the Leafs, they're .14 P% away from 4th place, as much as it upsets you.

 

[IPS]

Nothing the jets have done this year or last year separates them from MTL or EDM.

he's a Senators fan that's having serious trouble with coping with the Leafs success.

 

[DueDiligence]

You ever take a second to look at the standings?

Jets don't deserve a classification alongside the Leafs, they're .14 P% away from 4th place, as much as it upsets you.

Doesn't upset me. I just think the Jets forwards are big and talented and are built for the playoffs. Also Hellebuyck is the best goalie in the division. Jets D is the weak point of their team.

 

[Sypher04]

Nice when a night of inactivity sees teams ahead of you in the league standings mostly lose. I know league standings don't really matter, but we moved up 3 spots to #3 in the league in points percentage tonight with Tampa, Florida and Washington all losing. Idk, it's not important, but winning the president's trophy would be fun and we are right there with the best teams. Colorado is in the driver seat, but not uncatchable

 

[IPS]

Doesn't upset me. I just think the Jets forwards are big and talented and are built for the playoffs. Also Hellebuyck is the best goalie in the division. Jets D is the weak point of their team.

Matthews 6'3" 211
Scheifele 6'3" 207

Tavares 6'1" 215
Dubois 6'2" 205

Nylander 6'0" 200
Ehlers 6'0" 172

Marner 6'0" 175
Connor 6'1" 182

Hyman 6'1" 211
Wheeler 6'5" 220

Stastny 6'0" 193
Galchenyuk 6'1" 194

The "big and talented built for the playoffs" forwards of the Jets happen to be smaller than the Leafs almost across the board

 

[zeke]

Doesn't upset me. I just think the Jets forwards are big and talented and are built for the playoffs. Also Hellebuyck is the best goalie in the division. Jets D is the weak point of their team.

Big

Top Sixes

Matthews 6'3" 220 --- Wheeler 6'5" 225
Tavares 6'1" 215 ------ Dubois 6'3" 220
Hyman 6'1" 210 ------ Scheifele 6'3" 205
Galchenyuk 6'1" 205 - Stastny 6'0" 195
Nylander 6'0" 200 ---- Connor 6'1" 185
Marner 6'0" 175 ------- Ehlers 6'0" 175

Bottom 6

Engvall 6'5" 215 ------ Lowry 6'5" 210
Thornton 6'4" 220 --- Copp 6'1" 205
Spezza 6'3" 215 ------- Thompson 6'1" 205
Mikheyev 6'2" 195 --- Appleton 6'2" 195
Simmonds 6'3" 190 -- Lewis 6'1" 200
Kerfoot 5'11" 185 ---- Perreault 5'10" 190

 

[Mr Hockey]

Matthews 6'3" 211
Scheifele 6'3" 207

Tavares 6'1" 215
Dubois 6'2" 205

Nylander 6'0" 200
Ehlers 6'0" 172

Marner 6'0" 175
Connor 6'1" 182

Hyman 6'1" 211
Wheeler 6'5" 220

Stastny 6'0" 193
Galchenyuk 6'1" 194

The "big and talented built for the playoffs" forwards of the Jets happen to be smaller than the Leafs almost across the board

he most likely means their forwards are a lot more grittier than ours, which I have heard the media say sometimes and I would agree

 

[seanlinden]

You ever take a second to look at the standings?

Jets don't deserve a classification alongside the Leafs, they're .14 P% away from 4th place, as much as it upsets you.

There is without a doubt the Leafs have been better the Jets this year.... the "challenge" they're likely to pose is twofold.

1. Realistically, they can "improve more" at the deadline than we can. You look at the Jets lineup, and they have some things REALLY figured out (#1 goalie, top 6 forwards, high quality, gritty, big 3rd line); and some things that are a bit of a ####show (their D). The thing with defence though -- there's only 6 of them. If they go out and get a Josh Manson or David Savard, that could be a huge difference to the overall quality of their game. Identity-wise, they would fall into a very traditional playoff-hockey mold built from the net out.

For Toronto, the holes and issues aren't as glaring, but there's a lot of little ones... their 3rd line leaves a lot to be desired. Their 2nd line hasn't had spectacular production. They're not really built well to withstand an injury to one of their top 2 centres. On D, if Dermott goes down they're fine. If Bogosian or Muzzin go down, they really don't have any depth in terms of what those guys bring. Their goaltending is a pretty big question mark with an incumbent #1 who's had terrible numbers and is presently injured, a backup who's amazing when he plays, but also battling injuries.

2. Stylistically, the Leafs don't seem to match up very well against teams who take a "shutdown first" approach. Their offense relies on the counterattack moreso than controlling the play.

 

[wingman75]

It's pretty amazing to me how this team has transformed itself into what they are today. They are very likeable. From some of the personalities to simply the way they play (effort level is almost always high) to just finding ways to win, what's not to like? Complete reversal from last season, where, even though I love the Leafs I did not love this team. Good on them.

 

[zeke]

It's pretty amazing to me how this team has transformed itself into what they are today. They are very likeable. From some of the personalities to simply the way they play (effort level is almost always high) to just finding ways to win, what's not to like? Complete reversal from last season, where, even though I love the Leafs I did not love this team. Good on them.

 

[zeke]

There is without a doubt the Leafs have been better the Jets this year.... the "challenge" they're likely to pose is twofold.

1. Realistically, they can "improve more" at the deadline than we can. You look at the Jets lineup, and they have some things REALLY figured out (#1 goalie, top 6 forwards, high quality, gritty, big 3rd line); and some things that are a bit of a ####show (their D). The thing with defence though -- there's only 6 of them. If they go out and get a Josh Manson or David Savard, that could be a huge difference to the overall quality of their game. Identity-wise, they would fall into a very traditional playoff-hockey mold built from the net out.

For Toronto, the holes and issues aren't as glaring, but there's a lot of little ones... their 3rd line leaves a lot to be desired. Their 2nd line hasn't had spectacular production. They're not really built well to withstand an injury to one of their top 2 centres. On D, if Dermott goes down they're fine. If Bogosian or Muzzin go down, they really don't have any depth in terms of what those guys bring. Their goaltending is a pretty big question mark with an incumbent #1 who's had terrible numbers and is presently injured, a backup who's amazing when he plays, but also battling injuries.

2. Stylistically, the Leafs don't seem to match up very well against teams who take a "shutdown first" approach. Their offense relies on the counterattack moreso than controlling the play.

I was going to reply to this but I realized I disagreed entirely with every single sentence in it and was overwhelmed.

 

[zeke]

he most likely means their forwards are a lot more grittier than ours, which I have heard the media say sometimes and I would agree

Sure don't seem grittier when we play them.

 

[IPS]

he most likely means their forwards are a lot more grittier than ours, which I have heard the media say sometimes and I would agree

The Jets alleged physicality has caused the Leafs almost zero issue in all of the head to head matchups. They came out hard and physical in that last game against but they could not sustain it past the 1st.

For some reason a lot of people are still under the impression that they're the same physical force as the team that went to the 2018 WCF. They're not - Big Buff leaving changed the entire complexion of the team.

 

[Le Cobra]

I will check back in a week when we acquired hopefully a defenseman or top 6 forward

 

[TheProspector]

Jets fans are pretty funny

 

[TheProspector]

Stroking it while reading Jets boards.

 

[seanlinden]

My most basic analysis is that against this division so far I haven't seen many games where I have noticed our opponents bottom six. There has been like three games tops where our opponents have had all of their lines rolling.

On the other hand with the Leafs this year it has almost been non existent that at least one of our bottom lines have created and produced. Their has been most games where I feel all lines have created great chances and produced.

To me, the concern with our 3rd line is how little time they spend, and how few chances they generate in the offensive zone.

On a team that has the firepower the Leafs have in the top 6, I think the ideal 3rd line would be one that can go out there, forecheck forecheck forecheck, generate some energy, and wear out the D. That's not really what Mik-Engvall-Simmonds do. Mik & Engvall are open ice players. They use their size and reach to create traffic in the defensive zone, and their speed to quickly turn plays up ice... but far too often it's one and done for them.

 

[Mr Hockey]

I will check back in a week when we acquired hopefully a defenseman or top 6 forward

you think we get a dman? that crew in the Marlie thread, say Little green is 100% NHL ready but they have been saying that for a long time now

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Honestly no. I’ve been optimistic before about this team and every time they screw up. Good for them that they’re getting tougher and “harder to play against” but I’ll believe that’s all we needed to take the next step when I see it. I don’t think Brodie is good enough to help move the needle for us all that much, and any improvement we see will need to come from already established core players getting better and having more fight themselves.

 

[TheProspector]

Honestly, f*** the haters. If you don’t like this team now, go become a Habs fan. We all know you were a Detroit fan because “you don’t like being like everyone else” (read: liked winning, not so hot on attachments) until they shit the bed and we drafted Matthews. And absolutely every real TML fan knows exactly what I’m talking about.

 

[Mr Hockey]

Honestly, f*** the haters. If you don’t like this team now, go become a Habs fan. We all know you were a Detroit fan because “you don’t like being like everyone else” (read: liked winning, not so hot on attachments) until they shit the bed and we drafted Matthews. And absolutely every real TML fan knows exactly what I’m talking about.

i think everyone likes the team but they just want to add their own tweaks to it, thats what fans do bro

 

[SeaOfBlue]

The Jets alleged physicality has caused the Leafs almost zero issue in all of the head to head matchups. They came out hard and physical in that last game against but they could not sustain it past the 1st.

For some reason a lot of people are still under the impression that they're the same physical force as the team that went to the 2018 WCF. They're not - Big Buff leaving changed the entire complexion of the team.

People keep saying we are getting physically dominated yet we were not even physically dominated in previous years with softer teams.

Effort level was the only question mark but it has not been an issue this year.

 

[Mr Hockey]

People keep saying we are getting physically dominated yet we were not even physically dominated in previous years with softer teams.

Effort level was the only question mark but it has not been an issue this year.

its hard to put in a high effort level when you're being physically pushed around

 

[DaWatcher]

I think this group has potential to do something special. I have seen more determination from all parts of our roster this year that we lacked in the past. I think topping the Canadian division and making the conference finals would be a nice present from the hockey gods after years of laughable and embarrassing results.

 

[kb]

Hahahaha!!!

You really showed that guy!!