Do we already have a potential future Stanley Cup core with Nick & Cole? + Poll Question

[Catanddogguitarrr]

But we have Montembeault playing .912 hockey! Cup is ours man.

(in fairness, good on Monty… for now)

Why people don't want to see Montembault?
Mentally he must be very strong. Last year there was all the reasons for him to choke and stay in mediocrity for the rest of his career. But no, he fought, he worked and this year he is strong and he's showing he's challenging and his body language shows a strong goalie in control.

 

[the]

Why people don't want to see Montembault?
Mentally he must be very strong. Last year there was all the reasons for him to choke and stay in mediocrity for the rest of his career. But no, he fought, he worked and this year he is strong and he's showing he's challenging and his body language shows a strong goalie in control.

100% agree, Motormouth was put in a difficult position last season and I think he handled that situation admirably.

His willingness to improve and resiliency should be something that has helped earned the fans respect.

I hope he keeps getting better, he seems like a nice humble person and I'm happy to see him having some success.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

The core is legit good. They could 100% have a St.Louis/Boston type of run and win the cup. They need IMO a legit #1/#2 center (Bo Horvat ), a top right handed defenseman and we are good. Not much else.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

The core is legit good. They could 100% have a St.Louis/Boston type of run and win the cup. They need IMO a legit #1/#2 center (Bo Horvat ), a top right handed defenseman and we are good. Not much else.

I'd say at least a proper starter between the pipes but all in all I agree. For the first time in forever there's real reasons to be excited. Great young players on the squad now who aren't even done developing (some more than others), quality and quantity in the prospect pool, 2 out of the next 3 drafts we have 2 1st rounders, the GM(s) are making elite moves, etc.

I feel like in 2 years we can be in that perennial contender tier and it might even be fun to watch as well.

 

[CHwest]

Well unless the team turns it around and sucks for a while I vote no. We have some great pieces, but need more, this was the year to get one. Maybe with a prime Carey we might have snuck one out. I do think we will have good team for quit a while, a real heart breaker so to speak, always in the mix but not good enough. Who knows maybe a gift free agent or a player that really exceeds expectations will put us over the top but I can't see it. It will still be better than the crap we have been through for years.

 

[eklund the clown]

It's still too early to know.Our top line is set with Suzuki,Caufield and Dach.We need 2 guys for the 2nd line to play with Slaf who is going to be a star without a doubt.We won't be needing much on Def with Guhle who is going to be a shutdown # 1 def and is also staritng to show major offensive skills.Harris,Jackeye Mailloux look very promising already.And of course we have to find a goalie.The future is looking very bright indeed

 

[the]

Give me two #1 D...any team should be good with a core of 2 #1 D's.

 

[Habssince89]

Can't say yes yet but it's likely given that UFAs might actually want to come to Montreal for once and we are going to add a couple good to great prospects over the next few years to boot. Habs on track to become a contender down the line but it just remains to be seen if they become a favourite amongst contenders.

 

[HuGort]

I am concentrating on second line behind Suzuki. Like to sign Horvat and trade for Dubois. To play with Slaf next seasin. Make a great 2nd line. We have bunch of cap room coming off the books this season.

I am good with Gallagher/Dvorak/Hoffman as third line. Since all are near impossible to trade and they have good chemistry.

Means trading Anderson though. Which I am against but adding Dubois and Horvat makes up for his toughness.

 

[NORiculous]

Without a generational talent, any team is destined to be a middle of the pack team that can go on a Cinderella run.

The upcoming draft has major talent and a top 4 pick might be enough.

If the Habs miss this opportunity, it could take another 10 years before there is talent like this at the top and by that time the current core will be declining.

If it not this year, getting another top pick probably won’t happen under Suzuki’s captaincy. At that point, Habs will need to trade or sign players to get top talent.

 

[OldCraig71]

It takes a lot to win a Stanley Cup or even have all of the pieces and luck that go into winning one. /thread.

 

[Tyrus]

Give me two #1 D...anyteam should be good with a core of 2 #1 D's.

I feel like Nashville proved this false about a decade or so ago.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

Without a generational talent, any team is destined to be a middle of the pack team that can go on a Cinderella run.

The upcoming draft has major talent and a top 4 pick might be enough.

If the Habs miss this opportunity, it could take another 10 years before there is talent like this at the top and by that time the current core will be declining.

If it not this year, getting another top pick probably won’t happen under Suzuki’s captaincy. At that point, Habs will need to trade or sign players to get top talent.

Thankfully Habs have Dubois as a backup plan. Even if they don't get a top 5 pick, they're probably still getting a top 10 pick this year, at which point they can take a 2C like Dvorsky or a top 6 winger

I'm more curious about how and who they'll acquire to be Guhles partner. Maybe they get Cameron Allen with the Florida pick. Who knows...

 

[CHwest]

Thankfully Habs have Dubois as a backup plan. Even if they don't get a top 5 pick, they're probably still getting a top 10 pick this year, at which point they can take a 2C like Dvorsky or a top 6 winger

I'm more curious about how and who they'll acquire to be Guhles partner. Maybe they get Cameron Allen with the Florida pick. Who knows...

Dubois has to moving in on the most over rated player ever on this board. Good grief.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

Dubois has to moving in on the most over rated player ever on this board. Good grief.

I rate him as a good 2nd liner that could probably produce around 70-80 points on a good team. There were people on this board that were willing to trade Suzuki for Dubois over a year ago but then there are some that understand his worth, a secondary component on a competitive team

 

[DAChampion]

Without a generational talent, any team is destined to be a middle of the pack team that can go on a Cinderella run.

The upcoming draft has major talent and a top 4 pick might be enough.

What?

There are not 4 generational players in the upcoming draft, nor did Tampa Bay and Colorado or even Chicago and Los Angeles have generational players.

Kucherov, Hedman, Makar, McKinnon, Kane, Doughty are arguably one notch below Crosby, Ovechkin, and McDavid.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

What?

There are not 4 generational players in the upcoming draft, nor did Tampa Bay and Colorado or even Chicago and Los Angeles have generational players.

Kucherov, Hedman, Makar, McKinnon, Kane, Doughty are arguably one notch below Crosby, Ovechkin, and McDavid.

Yeah people way too often use the terms generational and superstar too loosely. If 10 players in the league were generational then they would actually be more like annual talent, etc. There are a small number of superstars in the league ranging from Matthews to MacKinnon to Kane. And a crap load of stars. But the only generational talent playing like such nowadays is probably just McDavid. Even Connor Bedard will probably just be a superstar which would still make him top 5/10 in the league, on par with the previously mentioned Matthews, MacKinnon, etc

 

[Vachon23]

What?

There are not 4 generational players in the upcoming draft, nor did Tampa Bay and Colorado or even Chicago and Los Angeles have generational players.

Kucherov, Hedman, Makar, McKinnon, Kane, Doughty are arguably one notch below Crosby, Ovechkin, and McDavid.

Those guys are HOF though, we don’t have that

 

[DAChampion]

Those guys are HOF though, we don’t have that

I agree that they're HOF caliber, but there are several players on the Habs that might reach that caliber, we just don't know yet.

Does anybody know how good Suzuki, Caulfield, Dach, Slafkovsky, Guhle are going to be in their primes?

 

[Vachon23]

I agree that they're HOF caliber, but there are several players on the Habs that might reach that caliber, we just don't know yet.

Does anybody know how good Suzuki, Caulfield, Dach, Slafkovsky, Guhle are going to be in their primes?

I wouldn’t bet on them being HOF even if they are really good players

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

I wouldn’t bet on them being HOF even if they are really good players

I care more about their numbers being retired cause they probably would've had a great impact on the Habs by the time they retired.

Imo only Carey deserves his number retired from the past 30 years of new players cause his impact was significant enough even without the cups but no one else's were. If Suzuki, Caufield, etc end up being stars in the NHL and win one to multiple cups while being dominant, they deserve their jerseys retired. By HoF, yeah that's a tougher question that's less important from my perspective

 

[the valiant effort]

Suzuki is clearly on track for a Hall of Fame career.

 

[NORiculous]

What?

There are not 4 generational players in the upcoming draft, nor did Tampa Bay and Colorado or even Chicago and Los Angeles have generational players.

Kucherov, Hedman, Makar, McKinnon, Kane, Doughty are arguably one notch below Crosby, Ovechkin, and McDavid.

We can debate what the generational word means if you like. But that was not the intention.

Change the word for superstar if you don’t like the word.

 

[Vachon23]

I care more about their numbers being retired cause they probably would've had a great impact on the Habs by the time they retired.

Imo only Carey deserves his number retired from the past 30 years of new players cause his impact was significant enough even without the cups but no one else's were. If Suzuki, Caufield, etc end up being stars in the NHL and win one to multiple cups while being dominant, they deserve their jerseys retired. By HoF, yeah that's a tougher question that's less important from my perspective

If your number is retired in MTL, you're surely in the HOF. Where not even sure we want to retire Price number..

Suzuki is clearly on track for a Hall of Fame career.

No, I love Suzuki but he's not on track for an HOF career. Not saying he won't do it but he will need to win awards an be a top 5-10 C in the league what is not the case.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

If your number is retired in MTL, you're surely in the HOF. Where not even sure we want to retire Price number..

No offence but you're kind of delusional if you don't think they'll retire Price's number