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GSP was interview at a French sports media. He said he’s a big fan of Star Wars and hope now that he’s in Disney family. He want to play in a series or movie
 
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From that article:
In the shooting script for A New Hope, the mentor figure, Obi-Wan Kenobi, survives to the end rather than dying midway through. Some drafts of the second film, The Empire Strikes Back, don’t indicate that the evil Darth Vader is Luke’s father. Glorious though such surprises are, Lucas’s work wasn’t driven by them.
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What a contrast that is with Abrams' mystery boxes. Abrams fills his films with mysteries, like who Rey's parents are, that we expect answers to at some point and, some times, can even guess what those answers will be. If Lucas had done this with Luke and had us anticipating learning who his father was, some people might've guessed Vader (especially because the word is Dutch for "father" and "Vater" is the German equivalent), and even those who didn't wouldn't have been genuinely surprised because they would've expected something surprising. It's like how Star Trek Into Darkness builds up the suspense of the villain's identity until we're expecting it to be someone familiar. Abrams doesn't seem to realize that the best way to surprise audiences is to give them no clue that the surprise is coming.
“Lucas makes movies that are intentionally designed to have holes in them that need to be filled later,” the producer Brian Volk-Weiss says in the oral history. He’s right except for one thing: Do they need to be filled in? Many a mediocre Star Wars product has arisen from trying to define every entry in the galactic glossary. The original films work precisely because of the holes.
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I've said before that I really didn't need to see a young Yoda jumping around like a cricket with a lightsaber. The mystery of how an old, slow-moving creature could've possibly been a great warrior was better when it was just a mystery. That was one hole that didn't need filling, IMO.
 
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Osprey said:
From that article:


What a contrast that is with Abrams' mystery boxes. Abrams fills his films with mysteries, like who Rey's parents are, that we expect answers to at some point and, some times, can even guess what those answers will be. If Lucas had done this with Luke and had us anticipating learning who his father was, some people might've guessed Vader, and even those who didn't wouldn't have been genuinely surprised because they would've expected something surprising. It's like how Star Trek Into Darkness builds up the suspense of the villain's identity until we're expecting it to be someone familiar. Abrams doesn't seem to realize that the best way to surprise audiences is to give them no clue that the surprise is coming.


I've said before that I really didn't need to see a young Yoda jumping around like a cricket with a lightsaber. The mystery of how an old, slow-moving creature could've possibly been a great warrior was better when it was just a mystery. That was one hole that didn't need filling, IMO.
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Totally agree. The simplicity of the original movies are somehow superior to all the new ones, won't try to explain it.

But, all the Disney movies are really good, too much gimmicks such as the overdone foreshadowing etc, but overall very good - Disney doesn't make bad films from cartoons to whatever they spare no expense don't cut corners, everything as perfect as they can do it.

I think the thing I dislike most from the old originals to the new, is the blatant way they targeted the young teen and child audiences as well as targeted all minorities etc - obviously Disney targets whatever market will make them the most money, but still it's too blatantly obvious for my liking.

The old originals I watched as a child and never thought it wasn't a grown ups movie, but now with teenagers saving the universe all the time and sword fights always being like the Matrix, I can't help but lose a little interest wishing more realistic even though Star Wars is fantasy by definition.

Regarding the different minority races, they were all good actors and played their roles superbly, but it's just so blatantly obvious that they type cast the movies to make each one as multi-ethnic as possible - I like Donnie Yen and Jiang Wen and grew up watching them and they were awesome in Rogue One, but it's just weird seeing all these Yentals I guess and others speaking broken English or heavy accented English in Start Wars.

I guess there has to be an explanation why English became the universal language, but since it did why do so many speak it badly? Did other earth languages like Chinese and Arabic survive too?

Anyways, Disney does great work regardless of little criticisms, but I still prefer the original movie where people stayed dead unlike the emperor - and things were more realistic.
 
Villella McMeans said:
I think the thing I dislike most from the old originals to the new, is the blatant way they targeted the young teen and child audiences as well as targeted all minorities etc - obviously Disney targets whatever market will make them the most money, but still it's too blatantly obvious for my liking.
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What does this mean?
 
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ArGarBarGar said:
Ewan McGregor as Obi Wan is one of the best casting decisions in Star Wars. Very excited to see him play the character again.

Also cool to see Indira Varma will be in the show, too.
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It helps that Ewan McGregor is such a great actor to begin with. I totally agree though, his casting as Obi Wan was perfect. I still wonder what the show will be about, but i'm really excited nonetheless.
 
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I do think it’s funny that the Empire, at least in terms of how it is portrayed in film, is still overwhelmingly white and British.

That didn’t change from the OT.

The one black guy switches sides. ;)

(And yes, the clones who are essentially slave soldiers)
 
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I do think it’s funny that the Empire, at least in terms of how it is portrayed in film, is overwhelmingly white and British.

That didn’t change from the OT.
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I think it's widely accepted that "a long long time ago" points to 1776 in the original film.
 
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Sure, but I thought the general point was that we've progressed as a filmmaking culture since the 1970s.

I guess it's easy to just continue to employ them as space nazis.
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I mean, I wouldn't fault the original film for being White vs White as it was clearly an analogy. The universe moved away from it (luckily), but at first it wasn't really just part of the so-white 70s. IMO anyway.
 
I wonder if Disney will ever consider releasing the animated comedy series of Star Wars created by Seth Green and the people from Robot Chicken. Supposedly it's done and has been sitting for years.

 
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