Disney Star Wars General Discussion

[syz]

I have no idea what that means.

Studio Trigger is doing (at least) one of these shorts and the characters look identical to those from a movie they made called Promare.

 

[Shockmaster]

Star Wars Editor Marcia Lucas Slams Kathleen Kennedy, JJ Abrams - Variety

 

[ArGarBarGar]

“They have Luke disintegrate. They killed Han Solo. They killed Luke Skywalker. And they don’t have Princess Leia anymore. And they’re spitting out movies every year. And they think it’s important to appeal to a woman’s audience, so now their main character is this female, who’s supposed to have Jedi powers, but we don’t know how she got Jedi powers, or who she is. It sucks. The storylines are terrible. Just terrible. Awful. You can quote me — ‘J.J. Abrams, Kathy Kennedy — talk to me,'” Lucas says in the book.

Real hard-hitting, substantive critique. Can't imagine why she hasn't been involved in a significant creative project since the 80s.

 

[Osprey]

Real hard-hitting, substantive critique. Can't imagine why she hasn't been involved in a significant creative project since the 80s.

She retired from the film industry after RotJ to raise a family. It wasn't because the two-time Oscar-nominated (and one-time winning) film editor couldn't find work.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

She retired from the film industry after RotJ to raise a family. It wasn't because the two-time Oscar-nominated (and one-time winning) film editor couldn't find work.

I was aware of that, as well as the small projects she did after she publicly retired.

 

[Osprey]

I was aware of that, as well as the small projects she did after she publicly retired.

It seemed like you were sarcastically suggesting that her critique offered a clue as to why she didn't work again. If those were really two unrelated thoughts, then I misinterpreted you.

 

[Jussi]

Star Wars Vision comes to Disney+ tomorrow and seems to be getting rave reviews:

Star Wars: Visions

It probably doesn't come as a surprise who gave the first rotten.

 

[John Price]

‘Star Wars: Visions’ Review: Anime Series Is One of the Franchise’s Best Titles in a Decade

 

[ArGarBarGar]

It seemed like you were sarcastically suggesting that her critique offered a clue as to why she didn't work again. If those were really two unrelated thoughts, then I misinterpreted you.

It was a clumsy attempt at humor, and one I will probably be filing under the "dud" category.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

Visions looks very interesting (what better genre to utilize than one that helped inspire the franchise in the first place?), though I am curious how they intend to incorporate explicit Japanese cultural elements into the story.

The stills that I have seen do look very engaging, either way.

 

[x Tame Impala]

So it's a Star Wars Anime? That could be pretty cool

 

[Jovavic]

What I've seen in reviews is that you should not binge the nine episodes all in a row

 

[matt trick]

What I've seen in reviews is that you should not binge the nine episodes all in a row

I'm kind of planning to do that tonight. Any arguments to why? Honestly asking, not being snarky.

 

[AlanHUK]

I binged them, it is a little jarring going through the different styles and stories. Probably would watch 1 or 2 a day in hindsight

there are a few of them that I would love to see continue as well, and they did leave them open ended

 

[Jovavic]

I'm kind of planning to do that tonight. Any arguments to why? Honestly asking, not being snarky.

Something about the lightsabre duels in the later episodes feeling redundant, which isn't really fair to them.

 

[Scandale du Jour]

I am not anime guy at all, but I decided to give it a shot.

I loved the Kurosawa aesthetic of the first one. It was not that Star Wars-y, but it worked. It was fun to see a Star Wars story using one of the genre it was largely influenced by.

Second one with the music band is f***ing awful. Lame as f***.

Not sure I am going to finish the series.

 

[RandV]

I am not anime guy at all, but I decided to give it a shot.

I loved the Kurosawa aesthetic of the first one. It was not that Star Wars-y, but it worked. It was fun to see a Star Wars story using one of the genre it was largely influenced by.

Second one with the music band is f***ing awful. Lame as f***.

Not sure I am going to finish the series.

I've watched the first two and agree with the assessment. They're all short so I'll finish the series but for the rest of them it will probably become apparent pretty quick which ones are worth watching from a broader perspective and which ones can be passed on.

 

[Scandale du Jour]

I've watched the first two and agree with the assessment. They're all short so I'll finish the series but for the rest of them it will probably become apparent pretty quick which ones are worth watching from a broader perspective and which ones can be passed on.

I finally powered through and watched them all.

1 is aesthetically great and entertaining enough.

5 and 8 are really good.

3,4,6,7,9 are okay but easily forgettable. And okay is generous for some.

2 is uber crap.

I am not into the genre, so I guess someone who is will like them better.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

I think the Disney trilogy is a truly forgettable piece of media, but the prequels are so much worse by almost every possible metric.

 

[Shockmaster]

I think the Disney trilogy is a truly forgettable piece of media, but the prequels are so much worse by almost every possible metric.

I think that depends on how you look at it. Certainly Lucas over did it with the CGI and the dialogue at times left more to be desired (especially Episode II), but they at least felt like Star Wars movies despite all their flaws. Also, don't forget to consider that the prequels didn't do anything to tarnish Luke, Han, and/or Leia.

 

[MadDevil]

I think I still prefer the prequels because there's actually a good story buried in all the CGI, bad dialogue, and subpar acting. The sequels are amazing visually and the dialogue and acting is better, but most of the story is either forgettable or a rehash of the OT.

Let's put it this way. I have pretty much zero desire to rewatch the sequels while I will still go back and watch the prequels (while skipping through some sections of it that I do find unwatchable).

 

[ArGarBarGar]

I think I still prefer the prequels because there's actually a good story buried in all the CGI, bad dialogue, and subpar acting. The sequels are amazing visually and the dialogue and acting is better, but most of the story is either forgettable or a rehash of the OT.

Let's put it this way. I have pretty much zero desire to rewatch the sequels while I will still go back and watch the prequels (while skipping through some sections of it that I do find unwatchable).

What do you believe the good story is? Are you just talking about the whole "Anakin falls to dark side" concept or the actual story that was told through the three movies?

 

[Osprey]

What do you believe the good story is? Are you just talking about the whole "Anakin falls to dark side" concept or the actual story that was told through the three movies?

I can't speak for him, but something that I appreciate about the PT is that it feels like an epic tragedy. The hero slowly becomes the villain and his relationships with other characters deteriorate along the way. It's different than most storylines, including the OT's (which is the making of a hero, not a villain), and provides for a lot of character development and drama. It should've made for some great storytelling, especially since it was planned out at the start and the most consistent of all of the trilogies. It's just too bad that, even with those things going for it, it fell short of its potential due to questionable writing and casting. Of all of the trilogies, it's the one that I think could improve the most by being remade.

 

[x Tame Impala]

I can't speak for him, but something that I appreciate about the PT is that it feels like an epic tragedy. I don't mean that it's tragic like the ST is tragic, but like a Greek tragedy. The hero slowly becomes the villain and his relationship with every other character changes. Both allow for some pretty dramatic character development, even greater than the OT had. It's a framework that should've made for some great storytelling, and it was even planned out at the start, so it's arguably the most consistent of all of the trilogies. It's just too bad that, even with those things going for it, it fell well short of its potential due to questionable writing and casting. Of all of the trilogies, it's the one that could improve the most by being remade, IMO.

Yeah it’s a real shame the prequels sucked because it distracts from Anakin’s IMO very good character arc. Anakin was doomed from the beginning, it’s very tragic in its own way.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

Did people here watch the three-part series from Belated Media where they "re-wrote" the prequels based on a lot of the foundations Lucas set up?

I liked those videos just because they invited different perspectives on the story of Anakin's fall, and while I disagree with a lot of elements of their version of the story it is interesting to consider what the movie would look like if they wrote it in this way.



Someone also wrote a fanfic apparently using these videos as inspiration, though I have not read it.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13587094/1/Return-of-the-Sith