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Zippy316

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Where did he say he was in on Saad, must have missed that one. I could see him inquiring about Hubs, but at asking price would probably be through the roof. Can't imagine he gets dealt, much less to us, but it's definitely an interesting situation over there.



I think he would be in on Huberdeau but I doubt we have what it takes to pull it off.
 

Cheddabombs

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TG reported it right after Saad went to CLB. Shero said that he had been talking to the Hawks and Saad's agent.



I think he would be in on Huberdeau but I doubt we have what it takes to pull it off.


Thanks!

After reading the thread on the trade board, it doesn't seem we have anything that would be enticing. I'm sure Shero has reached out, but I don't expect anything to come from it.
 

MichaelJ

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Thanks!

After reading the thread on the trade board, it doesn't seem we have anything that would be enticing. I'm sure Shero has reached out, but I don't expect anything to come from it.

You're unfortunately probably right. I don't know enough about their needs and I'm sure they'd ask for our yet-to-be-determined 2016 1st.
 

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how much do you pay a month for tv?

that's why. there's just not much of a valid reason to televise local pro sports in SD any longer - not with the amount of money being thrown around to cover the games and the technology infrastructure in place. 10 years ago sure - maybe even 5 but not now.

Oh I fully understand what you're saying but I'm just not going to sit there and pitch a hissy-fit just 'cause there is no HD on my TV or anything like that.

Personally, I have Fios Triple Play, and preferably use the Internet more than I actually watch TV. Heck, when the Devils are on, I don't automatically go "Hey! Where's my HD?". I guess different strokes for different folks. :dunno:
 

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You're unfortunately probably right. I don't know enough about their needs and I'm sure they'd ask for our yet-to-be-determined 2016 1st.

A few said there biggest need is a top line winger(s), so that pretty much rules us out right off the bat.
 

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You're unfortunately probably right. I don't know enough about their needs and I'm sure they'd ask for our yet-to-be-determined 2016 1st.

We need huge seasons out of two of Moore, Gelinas, and Merrill so we have a big trading chip on our hands.

Otherwise, we don't have much.
 

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All of the MSG networks are available in HD on Directv.

Seems only FiOS doesn't carry it in HD - not sure if this is a FiOS issue (probably) or due to Cablevision, as I know a few years back they were successfully blocking FiOS from carrying the MSG networks since they were in direct competition with Cablevision. And they're scum.

I don't understand why some here are so upset with MSG2 not being in HD.

I'm just glad I'm able to see the game at all. I could care less if it's in Standard Definition.

how much do you pay a month for tv?

that's why. there's just not much of a valid reason to televise local pro sports in SD any longer - not with the amount of money being thrown around to cover the games and the technology infrastructure in place. 10 years ago sure - maybe even 5 but not now.

This.

Sports (mainly the Devils) is the main reason I haven't yet cut the cord on paying for cable, since the costs have gotten out of control. HD has greatly enhanced viewing hockey on TV - it's a whole lot less enjoyable trying to watch a game in SD as the picture is smaller and much fuzzier. I try to sit closer to the TV to compensate, but that doesn't help too much. In season, probably about half the TV I watch is Devils games, so I'm paying good coin to watch these games.

I'm sure that well less than 1% of all broadcasts of major sporting events are only available to customers in SD, yet FiOS viewers are at 15%. I'm sure fans would be pissed if 2-3 of their favorite NFL team or 24 of their favorite MLB team's games were not available in HD.
 

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We need huge seasons out of two of Moore, Gelinas, and Merrill so we have a big trading chip on our hands.

Otherwise, we don't have much.

The more I think about it the more you're right. Next offseason should be the one for trades.
 

Zippy316

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The more I think about it the more you're right. Next offseason should be the one for trades.

In the grand scheme of things, it's perfect. This year is the huge make or break year for all of our guys.

How will Wood adjust to the NCAA from prep school? How will Blandisi, Coleman, and Pietila look in the pros? How will Kalinin and Mozik adjust to NA? Will Quenneville bounce back? Will Zacha live up to the #6 pick and adjust better to North America? Will Larsson and Severson build off last year? Will Merrill, Gelinas, and Moore rebound from last year? Will Helgeson or Hrabarenka show NHL potential? Will Santini and Jacobs look like future top four defenders? Will Matteau or Boucher be ready for NHL duties, it's make or break for them if not? Will Josefson emerge finally?

I'm sure we will be able to answer 90% of those questions next year. This year is a huge year in general for the Devils future, that's why I'm so excited for it even though the NHL team isn't going to be good. It will basically answer whether our rebuild will take two or three years or four or five years. I'm optimistic of it, but I believe in a lot of these prospects more than others.
 

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Speaking of Devils/Twitter, they have the "Twitter" vending machine in the Gateway Center. Won a hat.

Just out of curiosity now that they're bringing the Twitter machine to the open practice on Saturday, did they make you pay anything for entering?
 

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Sports (mainly the Devils) is the main reason I haven't yet cut the cord on paying for cable, since the costs have gotten out of control.

I finally worked out being able to see the Devils without cable. I use the first solution here. AdFreeTime fools GameCenterLive into thinking you're from somewhere outside the NY metro area so you can watch the games.

AdFreeTime + GameCenterLive

or

Hockeystreams

The second has been talked a lot on HF here as well, but I haven't personally used them.
 

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Off topic I know but I would like to know why this "panic" with advertisment on jerseys since it was known that Adidas will make jerseys in 2 years? Is it because Adidas is European company and in Europe all major sports have advertisement? Because if it is it's stupid, it's not like they force their football teams or any other teams in sports to have advertisement on their jerseys.
 

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Nonsense. Shero is doing nothing to upgrade our forwards
What is he suposed to do? Tlusty is the best forwar on the market, and the only assets we have that are remotely worth anything in a trade are draft picks, Schneider, Larsson, Severson, and Greene. I guess Cammalleri and Henrique too, but obviously we wouldn't trade them.

Merrill nor Gelinas are going to bring in a star forward. They're just not. We have nothing to trade.
I'd rather give a job to Blandisi than Tlusty, a young guy playing is more exciting to me than potentially getting a 4th at the deadline
Tlusty isn't old, if he had a good year we would just re-sign him.
Off topic I know but I would like to know why this "panic" with advertisment on jerseys since it was known that Adidas will make jerseys in 2 years? Is it because Adidas is European company and in Europe all major sports have advertisement? Because if it is it's stupid, it's not like they force their football teams or any other teams in sports to have advertisement on their jerseys.
The "panic" came from a few in the media using it as an excuse to write sensationalist stories and get clicks on their websites from a bunch of idiots that believe everything the media tells them. There was never any real reason to believe that ads were coming.
 

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What is he suposed to do? Tlusty is the best forwar on the market, and the only assets we have that are remotely worth anything in a trade are draft picks, Schneider, Larsson, Severson, and Greene. I guess Cammalleri and Henrique too, but obviously we wouldn't trade them.

Merrill nor Gelinas are going to bring in a star forward. They're just not. We have nothing to trade...

I'm not bashing Shero yet, but he's definitely let some opportunities slide.

1. He could have signed a couple of vets. The Devils right wing depth is atrocious. Someone like Santorelli would have helped.

2. He could have been more aggressive at the draft. The fact that the Devils didn't trade into the first round is a red flag. In the end, it means that the Devils preferred their quantity of picks and prospects vs. the chance at higher end talent. Barzal, Konecny - there are a number of guys that, if the Devils had been more aggressive, could have upgraded the forward talent pool.

3. He could have been more aggressive in off-season trades. It's unclear how the Hurricanes outbid the Devils on the Versteeg salary dump. The Canes get Versteeg plus upgraded from a 5th round pick to a 3rd. The Devils may not have been able to match the offer for Reilly Smith (though, the Bruins should be in the market for a d-man), but there's another forward who could have upgraded the talent pool.

None of these issues are necessarily the wrong decision. It all depends on what Shero does going forward. Maybe Blackwood and Speers pan out. Maybe Shero is able to pick up a salary dump who's not even on the radar.

But, the idea that there was nothing for Shero to do so far is incorrect, I think. With some imagination and vision, there was plenty Shero could have done.

As someone who would prefer to see a competitive team this year, I think Shero has been too passive so far. But, Shero certainly deserves the chance to let his decisions play out for a couple of years before he's held accountable.
 

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european jerseys are ****-ugly. the cleanliness and class of NHL jerseys needs to stay.
 

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I'm not bashing Shero yet, but he's definitely let some opportunities slide.

1. He could have signed a couple of vets. The Devils right wing depth is atrocious. Someone like Santorelli would have helped.

2. He could have been more aggressive at the draft. The fact that the Devils didn't trade into the first round is a red flag. In the end, it means that the Devils preferred their quantity of picks and prospects vs. the chance at higher end talent. Barzal, Konecny - there are a number of guys that, if the Devils had been more aggressive, could have upgraded the forward talent pool.

3. He could have been more aggressive in off-season trades. It's unclear how the Hurricanes outbid the Devils on the Versteeg salary dump. The Canes get Versteeg plus upgraded from a 5th round pick to a 3rd. The Devils may not have been able to match the offer for Reilly Smith (though, the Bruins should be in the market for a d-man), but there's another forward who could have upgraded the talent pool.

None of these issues are necessarily the wrong decision. It all depends on what Shero does going forward. Maybe Blackwood and Speers pan out. Maybe Shero is able to pick up a salary dump who's not even on the radar.

But, the idea that there was nothing for Shero to do so far is incorrect, I think. With some imagination and vision, there was plenty Shero could have done.

As someone who would prefer to see a competitive team this year, I think Shero has been too passive so far. But, Shero certainly deserves the chance to let his decisions play out for a couple of years before he's held accountable
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Yes yes and more yes. The notion that there's nothing he could do is such a copout.
 

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lol adding santorelli and versteeg? Adding more 30+ year olds? They wouldn't even make the playoffs even with those two.

They did try to get another first round pick, look down TGs Twitter around draft day and you'll see it. Reilly smith was acquired by trading jimmy Hayes a guy who had 19 goals, 25 years old, and 6'6".
 
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