Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part V

[The Devil In I]

Don't want to post myself on here so I cropped us out

 

[Rybo]

We are consistently getting guys who are 21-23 getting 7-8M on their second contract straight after their ELC - Hughes, Norris, Cozens, Robertson.

The league is changing, comparing current players to deals that were signed +3 years ago is apples to oranges. Bratt is a top-30 winger in the league, and if we don't pay him then we're going to lose a homegrown point per game player for nothing and will need to spend assets to replace him.

Wouldnt we trade Bratt if we cant sign him?

 

[My3Sons]

Ok. Just got back in from working on my car for a couple hours and we haven't traded for Meier yet??? You guys didn't will it to happen yet?

Slackers.

You have the right tools to work on your McLaren F1? I'm impressed.

 

[Nocashstyle]

Don't want to post myself on here so I cropped us outView attachment 649848

He looks like a hybrid version of himself mixed with Holtz. Are you sure they were each separately there?

 

[My3Sons]

I blame the lack of progress we've seen over the previous 4 or 5 years directly at his feet.

Previously it was laid by you at both of their feet. Now it's just Hischier?

 

[Nubmer6]

Which makes me think...I think the most underrated player in Devils history is Bruce Driver...

Perhaps because he left to go across the river? I think that plays at least some part of it but Driver deserves more accolades for his time with New Jersey...just taking off the C voluntarily to give it to Stevens has him in a special place in Devils history....

Nico should study Devils history.

I don't think I ever saw Driver miss the net on a point shot. Every last one was low, hard, ant tippable. There's also not a single Devil I trusted more defending a 2 on 1.

As for Nico, as far as I remember, he was always predicted to be an 70-80, defensively responsible center in a draft that was widely seen as weak. He was the safe pick. I think the players from that draft that are viewed as better than him were more lottery tickets that happened to hit. There's definitely a bit of luck involved in drafting, and Nico was the surest thing that year. You can't afford to gamble and lose on a 1 OA pick.

You have the right tools to work on your McLaren F1? I'm impressed.

Mazdaspeed 6, and I have a lot of tools

 

[JimEIV]

Previously it was laid by you at both of their feet. Now it's just Hischier?

First two years when Jack was steaming shit yeah, it was both...but he became a difference maker. Would've been nice to see more during his ELC but better late than never like Nico.

Also I have always said Jack shouldn't be judged the same as Nico. They were on different timelines. Nico did nothing for a long time.

 

[Mgd31]

Don't want to post myself on here so I cropped us outView attachment 649848

Did Holtz get traded mid picture? Is that why he didn't make the cut?

 

[Forge]

Wouldnt we trade Bratt if we cant sign him?

Maybe? Its a weird spot. Sure, we could move him and maybe get a return like Minnesota got for Fiala last year, but this team also wants to compete now. We have a roster capable of competing. So I'm not going to say for sure that Fitz would trade him for futures just to get something for him. He may value the contributions to a cup contender for a year more than that.

Maybe you can look for a hockey trade of some sort, but those are kind of hard to predict.

 

[The Devil In I]

Did Holtz get traded mid picture? Is that why he didn't make the cut?

I didn't recognize him right away since running into them came out of nowhere. Holtz was standing off to the side while Hughes was doing autographs so we just asked Hughes to do a picture.

 

[JimEIV]

I don't think I ever saw Driver miss the net on a point shot. Every last one was low, hard, ant tippable. There's also not a single Devil I trusted more defending a 2 on 1.

As for Nico, as far as I remember, he was always predicted to be an 70-80, defensively responsible center in a draft that was widely seen as weak. He was the safe pick. I think the players from that draft that are viewed as better than him were more lottery tickets that happened to hit. There's definitely a bit of luck involved in drafting, and Nico was the surest thing that year. You can't afford to gamble and lose on a 1 OA pick.


Mazdaspeed 6, and I have a lot of tools

Driver was an excellent at the point I don't think we ever had a better Dman to walk the line on the PP.

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That seriously looks like a nasty hangover face...the kind of hangover that you wish any light would go away forever because it's making your pounding headache so much worse.

 

[Mgd31]

I didn't recognize him right away since running into them came out of nowhere. Holtz was standing off to the side while Hughes was doing autographs so we just asked Hughes to do a picture.

Poor Holtz lol, love it.

 

[Cheddabombs]

Where Timo

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

First two years when Jack was steaming shit yeah, it was both...but he became a difference maker. Would've been nice to see more during his ELC but better late than never like Nico.

Also I have always said Jack shouldn't be judged the same as Nico. They were on different timelines. Nico did nothing for a long time.

again, just complete and utter nonsense. I dont believe you yourself even believe this shit.

 

[Ripshot 43]

Where Timo

Have we checked up on San Jose to Newark flights recently

 

[Eggtimer]

Timo ? You there ?

 

[My3Sons]

I don't think I ever saw Driver miss the net on a point shot. Every last one was low, hard, ant tippable. There's also not a single Devil I trusted more defending a 2 on 1.

As for Nico, as far as I remember, he was always predicted to be an 70-80, defensively responsible center in a draft that was widely seen as weak. He was the safe pick. I think the players from that draft that are viewed as better than him were more lottery tickets that happened to hit. There's definitely a bit of luck involved in drafting, and Nico was the surest thing that year. You can't afford to gamble and lose on a 1 OA pick.


Mazdaspeed 6, and I have a lot of tools

Is that the Mazdaspeed 6 with the AWD system? I recall that sounding like a very nice ride.

 

[Rybo]

Maybe? Its a weird spot. Sure, we could move him and maybe get a return like Minnesota got for Fiala last year, but this team also wants to compete now. We have a roster capable of competing. So I'm not going to say for sure that Fitz would trade him for futures just to get something for him. He may value the contributions to a cup contender for a year more than that.

Maybe you can look for a hockey trade of some sort, but those are kind of hard to predict.

Just for fun!.. Since you mentioned a hockey trade, and If we cant come to terms with Bratt..

What about a deal for Nylander if were not on his M-NTC after this season? Wed require a chat with his agent on a future deal but hes only two years older than Bratt and has proven he can play with high end centers! I also like Nylander's shot more

A few other names I see, with wildly different trade packages around or for Bratt, are
-Kaprizov, -Connor, -Keller, -Svechnikov, -Kyrou, -Thomas

Plus some other names im sure im misding.. Some interesting options for sure if things fall apart !

 

[Guttersniped]

Yeah... MacKinnon should 100% absolutely be the captain of the Avalanche. He speaks for the team regularly and team looks to him as example and he's their best player.

This is very wrong. MacKinnon is infamously a dumb hothead on the ice, though he’s gotten better about it in the last couple years.

Even he admits that he needed to mature and stop acting out when he got angry in games.

Landeskog is considered an exceptional captain.

Just like Jamie Benn is still a great captain even though his stats have slipped.

I blame the lack of progress we've seen over the previous 4 or 5 years directly at his feet.

Everything bad that has happened since 2018 is all Hischier’s fault. Seems reasonable.

 

[My3Sons]

First two years when Jack was steaming shit yeah, it was both...but he became a difference maker. Would've been nice to see more during his ELC but better late than never like Nico.

Also I have always said Jack shouldn't be judged the same as Nico. They were on different timelines. Nico did nothing for a long time.

Jack can win games by himself which is the case for only a handful of guys in the league. Most first overalls don't even do that. Jack is at the point where exuberant NJ fans argue with Edmonton fans he is a better player than Draisatl. Hischier is the perfect foil for Hughes and to be fair NJ secured three points out of four after Hughes was hurt in part due to Hischier's matchup work. That said, I think it's way too oversimplified to say any one thing was the reason NJ stunk. It's not like Edmonton's results have been good or Vancouver's with Petterson or Buffalo's this season despite an insane amount of offense. If you don't have a critical mass of good players at both ends of the ice and a goalie you just won't do well. Beyond that I'd say that if your best players are teenagers or very early twenties you likely have a problem as a team. As always, your opinion is yours, but once again, I think you are looking for Wilson on that island when you suggest Jack and /or Hischier are the primary reason NJ was bad the last stretch of years.

 

[NjdevilfanJim]

Mercer is also a C/W, that makes him incredibly useful.

Look at Tampa, they honed in on getting C/W. They’re very versatile and works throughout the line-up.

Mercer is just exactly the kind of player you want on a current NHL line-up, his style of play and skills are exactly what you want in a modern forward.

I don’t give a shit what his projection is, he’s one of the most useful players we have in his 2nd season of professional hockey. You don’t trade him.

His character and intangibles are also off the charts, it’s just no. And I can’t stress enough that IDGAF about point projections with him. He’ll produce.

Amen.....

 

[Guttersniped]

this is definitely jacks team and hes the face of the franchise. there are def a lot of examples where the best player isn't the captain but still feels weird to me. they should have captain for x amount of years and move on to another player.

They do have a Captain for an X amount of years.

They’re Captain until leave or the team takes the Captaincy away.

Are you proposing NHL Captaincy Term Limits?

 

[My3Sons]

They do have a Captain for an X amount of years.

They’re Captain until leave or the team takes the Captaincy away.

Are you proposing NHL Captaincy Term Limits?

Would that go along with Captaincy Finance Reform?

 

[Guttersniped]

I like Mercer a lot, but he's definitely not untouchable depending on the deal. The only truly untouchable players are Jack, Nico, and Luke Hughes. The price would be enormously high, but it's not impossible for there to be a scenario where it makes sense to trade Mercer. I wouldn't do it for Meier though.

I did say an RFA with equal team control. High end RFAs can be traded, you just don’t trade them for guys one year from UFA.

(Putting aside meaningless hypotheticals involving McDavid or whatever.)

Wandering around downtown Columbus with my girl on our way to lunch and just ran into Jack and Holtz coming back to the hotel with a bag of Chipotle lol

Asked Jack if he's playing and he said I don't know we'll see

Does Jack get a Team USA discount at Chipotle?

 

[Nubmer6]

Is that the Mazdaspeed 6 with the AWD system? I recall that sounding like a very nice ride.

Indeed. Nothing like having a car that looks like a mom and pop sedan that was faster than a Porsche 911 turbo when they tested it on Top Gear