Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part V

[devilsblood]

Not really much more productive...not anymore productive than league scoring and team success and style of play can account for anyway.

Josefson all situation P/60
19 years old 1.6
20 years old 1.1
21 years old .6
22 years old No stats for some reason?
23 years old .9
24 years old .9
25 years old 1.3

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Boqvist all situation P/60
21 years old .6
22 years old 1.3
23 years old 1.9
24 years old 1.2

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Bunch of issues there

First being all situations comparison. 2nd being Boq scores actual goals twice as well as jj did. 3rd being boqs 23 year old seasin was twice as good as jjs.

 

[JimEIV]

Bunch of issues there

First being all situations comparison. 2nd being Boq scores actual goals twice as well as jj did. 3rd being boqs 23 year old seasin was twice as good as jjs.

Seems more like splitting hairs than a bunch of issues?

Edit:
And if I wanted to argue for Boqvist I'd certainly focus on goals... especially when this season we are a top team and last year we were right around the middle in Goals For.... Josefson's team were typically at the bottom of the league in Goals. But really the production is more similar than different.

 

[Mr Bojanglez]

A lot of people were happy to stay away from Johnny Gaudreaunee. and the one reason why is how we have an option to land Meier now.

I didn't nead Gaudreau. I would have been fine had we signed him but basically did not care.

I did not have Timo on my mind, but you're right. Timo is the exact kind of player that completes our top 6. I will have my heart broken if we don't get Timo - i didn't care about Gaudreau

 

[Guadana]

I didn't nead Gaudreau. I would have been fine had we signed him but basically did not care.

I did not have Timo on my mind, but you're right. Timo is the exact kind of player that completes our top 6. I will have my heart broken if we don't get Timo - i didn't care about Gaudreau

I still think that we will handle it. Mercer, Zetterlund, Holtz and Gritsyuk are good young players to build top six around Jack, Nico and Bratt. But it could be way better with Meier. And faster,

 

[JimEIV]

I think we dodged a bullet with Gaudreau.

He would have made us smaller, weaker, poorer and more of a perimeter team. I also don't think he'll ever get close to last year's totals again.

 

[HoliksGhost]

This is totally gonna end up like Gaudreau and we’re gonna get our hearts broken

I hope not. Watching Timo vs the Caps right now. Love the way he skates and holds the puck in the Ozone. If we add this kid long term, our next 3-5 years gonna be fun.

 

[Zacha37]

I hope not. Watching Timo vs the Caps right now. Love the way he skates and holds the puck in the Ozone. If we add this kid long term, our next 3-5 years gonna be fun.

At this point I’m at an offer whatever it takes to get it done ASAP

 

[Devs3cups]

At this point I’m at an offer whatever it takes to get it done ASAP

What’s your best offer?

 

[Zacha37]

What’s your best offer?

Atm, Holtz, Shara, Muk, 23 first and 2nd in 23 and 24 if that’s what it takes. If CAR offers Jarvis we might be forced to include Mercer who I really don’t want to trade but would probably be worth it for Meier + would get some of those picks and added prospect/s out of the deal.

 

[Guadana]

I don’t truly think that SJ will ask for Sharangovich. They have 50 signed players. Meier is a biggest fish on the market and asking price is high. I don’t think they will ready to use a slot in the trade for middle six winger. Yegor is 24 already and this season isn’t really great. I think if trade will happened, Fitz needs to beat other offers, so I think it should be 1st+Holtz+Shakir. May be more picks.

 

[JK3]

Haula can't sustain this low S% LMAO. Sooo many glorious chances, I can't stand this player.

 

[HoliksGhost]

Watching Timo on the PP right now.. gotta get this kid…

 

[MauDevils]

I don’t truly think that SJ will ask for Sharangovich. They have 50 signed players. Meier is a biggest fish on the market and asking price is high. I don’t think they will ready to use a slot in the trade for middle six winger. Yegor is 24 already and this season isn’t really great. I think if trade will happened, Fitz needs to beat other offers, so I think it should be 1st+Holtz+Shakir. May be more picks.

Without Sharangovich we need to send more salary back. Either they take Johnsson or we have to pay someone else to take him.

 

[Guadana]

Without Sharangovich we need to send more salary back. Either they take Johnsson or we have to pay someone else to take him.

We may pay for someone else. The problem with Sharangovich is number of slot for signed players. I truly think that Buffalo for example have better offensive options for trade than we have.

 

[Guttersniped]

On Boqvist vs Josefson there are a lot similarities

size
Josefson- 6'0 - 187
Boqvist 6'0 - 180

There is also the quasi Center/wing thing going on and both weren't/aren't very good at faceoffs

There is the attention to the two way game both had/have that seems to be at the expense of offense.

There is also relatively close draft position #20 - #36

Those are minor things that make me think of Josefson.

Josefson is a much better center and worse offensive forward (news flash!).

He could also play be called “injury prone”.

His NHL injury history was long and depressing.

He went back to the SHL in 2018-19 and was the MVP. He did that while only playing 40 of the 52 regular season games.

(On a team with Bergfors and Urbom lol. And a baby Alex Holtz.)

He then played 30 games in 2019-20 and 27 games in 2021-22. Then he had to retire at age 29 due to injuries.

So yeah, he didn’t hold up too well physically.

I thought Josefson was a neat little player.

I do remember, and this is subjective, that he did seem to get the yips when he got the puck with a great offensive look.

I don’t if that was really a thing with him, or I imagined it. I was rooting hard for him (got a jersey lol), but I remember watching him just biff shots under pressure and thinking things might not go that great for him.

Josefson also never shot the puck enough and that’s actually my biggest concern with Boqvist. Boqvist actually hits the net like a little sniper (rather than shit his pants) and is much stronger.

 

[Mgd31]

Speaking of Boqvist, if he finishes that point blank chance to go up 3-1 in the 2nd we probably win the game in regulation

 

[JrFischer54]

I think we dodged a bullet with Gaudreau.

He would have made us smaller, weaker, poorer and more of a perimeter team. I also don't think he'll ever get close to last year's totals again.

He would’ve made players around him better had other teams focusing on him and take pressure off other players also would’ve helped the power play. Yeah I don’t see him hitting 40 esp being on the jackets but he should be close to 30. If he came here could see more then 30

Without Sharangovich we need to send more salary back. Either they take Johnsson or we have to pay someone else to take him.

Shara is such trash

 

[Guttersniped]

We may pay for someone else. The problem with Sharangovich is number of slot for signed players. I truly think that Buffalo for example have better offensive options for trade than we have.

The contracts aren’t really a problem, we just have to take random AHL fodder back.

If Buffalo wanted to bid against us that’s a real big problem because of the massive pile of assets they’re sitting on.

Not sure they’ll have any interest in spending that on a winger now. Hard to say.

 

[Guttersniped]

Speaking of Boqvist, if he finishes that point blank chance to go up 3-1 in the 2nd we probably win the game in regulation

It’s not easy to make shots when you play infrequently.

I think Boqvist has a real nice shot it’s just a question of if he can create enough shots.

If he was better at face-offs that would really improve his lot in life. (Get to work on it buddy, we’re all rooting for ya.)

 

[dls]

Feels like the ask is Mercer, and fitz isn't budging. I don't blame Fitz for waiting.

Much more inclined to give Meier 8x8 then Bratt 8x9 he is asking for. Sad to see this with Bratt drag on like this but all indications seem to show that unless Bratts prepared to be paid max 8, will be a lot of discussions what we do with Bratt next year if we can't sign him long-term.

 

[My3Sons]

Feels like the ask is Mercer, and fitz isn't budging. I don't blame Fitz for waiting.

Much more inclined to give Meier 8x8 then Bratt 8x9 he is asking for. Sad to see this with Bratt drag on like this but all indications seem to show that unless Bratts prepared to be paid max 8, will be a lot of discussions what we do with Bratt next year if we can't sign him long-term.

Wasn’t it reported that Meier wants $9 mil per?

 

[BurntToast]

The Sabers media said the Sabers should go after a player like Boon Jenner, and I was thinking, that’s not a bad Idea.

I don’t know his advance metric’s but he would add some grit and timely scoring. His contract is reasonable at 3.75.

(I don’t see much difference to Josh Anderson, except thier AVV!?)

 

[guitarguyvic]

Feels like the ask is Mercer, and fitz isn't budging. I don't blame Fitz for waiting.

Much more inclined to give Meier 8x8 then Bratt 8x9 he is asking for. Sad to see this with Bratt drag on like this but all indications seem to show that unless Bratts prepared to be paid max 8, will be a lot of discussions what we do with Bratt next year if we can't sign him long-term.

Do you have sources for these "feelings"? Otherwise this is just meaningless speculation.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Sharks most likely waiting to see if some teams besides us and Carolina want to get in to drive the price up

 

[My3Sons]

Sharks most likely waiting to see if some teams besides us and Carolina want to get in to drive the price up

They know NJ isn’t going away. They can take the NJ offer close to thr deadline if they want so they can try to get another team to offer more in thr meantime. I’m skeptical that Carolina or Buffalo want to pay Meier market price. That may be NJ’s advantage.