Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part V

[DerekDevils30]

Still no Meier.

Get your fingers off your ass Tom Fitzgerald.

 

[StevenToddIves]

Other than the hairstyle, Mercer is like the anti-Jean-Ralphio: hardworking, reliable, and likeable.

Dude he's a Newfie. Leave the lettuce alone.

 

[Devilsfan992]

I'll never get the Tatar hate, such a smart player, always in the right place and often making the right play. The days of the big European forward are over, but I feel like a guy like Tatar occupies the niche of someone like Dainius Zubrus - rarely makes the flashy play but so reliable.

Tatar has been very good for us this season.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

 

[Saugus]

Assuming we don’t get Timo and the Canes do, Rangers add Kane, the irony would be both the Rangers and Canes getting knocked out in the first round.

It would be amusing for us, but it wouldn't be that uncommon. For every team that picks up a great rental and wins the Cup, there are 15 teams whose deadline adds didn't work out.

 

[HoliksGhost]

It’s hilarious to me that teams used to do this in the 90s. I think the Rangers traded away Kovalev at the deadline in ‘94?



The perception of Meier is so out of hand at this point. I’m worried that anything short of Kovalchuck impact will be a disappointment.

I’m thinking his chemistry with Hughes would be off the charts. I’m thinking long term, not this years playoffs. That’s just my opinion after watching a few Sharks games not looking at stats.

 

[Nubmer6]

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This is actually a pretty great draft class for the Rangers but Neil Smith traded everyone.

Everyone traded just almost everybody but keeping Kovalev for 7 years was the closest to a (non-goalie) Rangers home grown star since Leetch and that’s it in the 1990s.

Zubov got 165 GP as Ranger. He was shipped off to Pittsburgh in the terrible Luc Robitaille/ Ulf Samuelsson trade in August 1995, so there isn’t a “but the Cup and Matteau’s goal” aspect that’s used to defend the not good at all Amonte trade. (The Pens traded Zubov a year later to Dallas for Kevin Hatcher though lol.)

Weight got them Esa Tikkanen.

The trade was a huge win for the Oilers, in the sense that Rangers were constantly raiding them for established players they couldn’t afford, and this time they got a franchise stalwart out of it.

There’s a “but the Cup” with Tikkanen, even though he was much better with the Rags in the 1997 playoffs than in the 1994 playoff. (Including two OT goals in a 97 series vs Florida.)

Of course, they didn’t have Tikkanen the entire time from the 1995 playoffs to the 1997 playoffs because this is the 1990s.

(And I’m not writing all this out lol.)
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And the Rangers only had a 23 year old Nedved for 46 GP plus 10 playoff games, because he’s part of the terrible Zubov trade, but they traded to get him back later too.
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And yes, they traded Alex Kovalev for Nedved in 1998. But they can’t quit him either.
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That shit was wild. (Not sure how much the players liked it.)

I dunno why, but this is making me nervous even trade away Holtz for Meier, let alone Mercer.

 

[Mgd31]

Hold me, Fitz

 

[Devs3cups]

We might not have to wait until Friday to see what happens after all… Time will tell.

 

[HoliksGhost]

No short list ? I’m getting sucked into the Timo talk again, damn it.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

 

[Nubmer6]

You think this is part of his "Devil's NEED Meier" campaign or does he know something?

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Wake me up when Denis Potvin says something

 

[Saugus]

You think this is part of his "Devil's NEED Meier" campaign or does he know something?

If I was more conspiracy-minded, I would think that Claude Lemieux is paying Rupp to pump his client's tires.

But no, he probably doesn't have inside info. He just sees that it is a good fit like the rest of us. He decided to try manifesting it through Twitter posts and now he's too committed to the bit to stop until the trade happens.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

Kind of random but I always find it a little interesting when some guys practice with different tape than they play with. Tatar with no tape it seems and Nico uses white tape in every practice but black in every single game. Was a very small stretch of games where Nico tried white tape last year but quickly switched back to black.
Used to have some teammates who only used white in practices and said they couldn’t play with it in games.

 

[Devs3cups]

This is wild and actually pretty unlucky?

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

OH?

 

[Guttersniped]

You and @Guttersniped are like pitbulls and I'm the fool mailman taking a backward step.

Okok I give, you win, it's a stupid trade

I knew endlessly bludgeoning you with the same arguments would work!

In my defense the Mercer/Meier thing is driving me batty.

[Note: the rest is not directed at you in particular at all but I’m not making a separate post lol.]

In the main thread when people said they wouldn’t trade Mercer for Meier a Sharks fan responded with this.

“Would you be ok with that?” No man, I would hold out for an even more awesome return in an imaginary Bratt trade in my head.

In a tragic real life Bratt trade however, I would be thrilled if we got a player like Mercer.

That’s because if we traded Bratt the return would definitely be more underwhelming than that.

Fiala got 2020 1st (#19) and an unsigned Brock Faber (2020 2nd Rd #45).

The hope is the assets you get turn into a Mercer, you don’t get Mercer.

I think Meier has more trade value as a power forward than Bratt too. It was a weird gotcha.

I also can’t wait for Meier to not be traded before the TDL and this to drag on until the Draft.

 

[Whaddagoal]

If I was more conspiracy-minded, I would think that Claude Lemieux is paying Rupp to pump his client's tires.

But no, he probably doesn't have inside info. He just sees that it is a good fit like the rest of us. He decided to try manifesting it through Twitter posts and now he's too committed to the bit to stop until the trade happens.

I doubt you need to be conspiracy-minded. It's more like, that is usually how things work behind the scenes in general.

All this media pumping of Meier............ someone is influencing for someone's behest whether it is SJ, NJ, or other teams, Meier/Agent, etc,

 

[Devs3cups]

OH?

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

OH?

 

[Devilsfan992]

OH?

Thanks Strickland for the obvious.

 

[Devs3cups]

 

[Devils731]

OH?

Part 2

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

that means St. Louis