Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part IV

[NiedermayerNades]

Grits is ahead of last years pace. Putting both seasons at last years games played would be.

Last year - 69 games 15 goals and 25 assists.

This year - 69 games (adjusted) 26 goals and 26 assists.

This seasons numbers are good for a 22 year old. They don’t scream superstar but they do suggest someone with NHL potential.

He was saying Grits and Casey should be tradeable assets so I think that’s who he is still talking about.

Gritsyuk didn't regressed. If you think differently, you are not watching games, you don't know how his health effect on the part of his season and you don't know what are you talking about.
Its better to stay silent when you know nothing.
2026 stuff is taking from your mind, not from the actual situation. Again, it's better to not talk about what you know nothing about. Or ask.

I was referring to 2021 7th round pick Zakhar Bardakov when stating the player regressed; I did, however, also state Gritsyuk's value as a prospect is boosted due to an outlier season 1.5 years ago

Good player but Id move him in the right deal.

Seamus Casey, on the other hand, is a higher end prospect but also at a position of surplus for us. Id move him to save a 1st+ in a deal for a goaltender (if the opposing team values him similarly, of course).

Again though - outlier season bumping value a bit for both of these players

 

[RSeen]

3rd toughest Strength of Schedule remaining. SOS indeed.

Worst goaltending in the league for two of the last three seasons. Fitz has got to take some of the blame for that and get serious about fixing the problem soon.

We are going to make a desperation move in the offseason and take on the full cap hit of a 35 year old with 2 seasons left. Honestly needs to do something better than Markstrom. Need a long-term solution.

 

[Guadana]

I was referring to 2021 7th round pick Zakhar Bardakov when stating the player regressed; I did, however, also state Gritsyuk's value as a prospect is boosted due to an outlier season 1.5 years ago

Good player but Id move him in the right deal.

Seamus Casey, on the other hand, is a higher end prospect but also at a position of surplus for us. Id move him to save a 1st+ in a deal for a goaltender (if the opposing team values him similarly, of course).

Again though - outlier season bumping value a bit for both of these players

Bardakov - its better to watch. 2026 part is true or may be he will never travel. He bought apartments in St Petersburg few days ago, but may be after the trade, may be before, I don't actually know what is the reason. And his wife is pregnant.

Gritsyuk? Outlier? Its better to watch.

Casey is a first round level talent, may be top 10 pick level talent and has track record and some provement on his level. And he is closer to nhl in compare to the 2024 draft prospects.

Sorry, but your management isn't good. And your informedation(i don't know, does this words exist, you can use imagination to understand) isn't good too.

 

[Lou is God]

We are going to make a desperation move in the offseason and take on the full cap hit of a 35 year old with 2 seasons left. Honestly needs to do something better than Markstrom. Need a long-term solution.

I think if we were to act out of desperation we would have already.

But if we don't trade for Markstrom now, I don't think we'll trade for him in the off-season. I think we'll go the long-term route instead the short term fix

 

[JimEIV]

I was referring to 2021 7th round pick Zakhar Bardakov when stating the player regressed; I did, however, also state Gritsyuk's value as a prospect is boosted due to an outlier season 1.5 years ago

Good player but Id move him in the right deal.

Seamus Casey, on the other hand, is a higher end prospect but also at a position of surplus for us. Id move him to save a 1st+ in a deal for a goaltender (if the opposing team values him similarly, of course).

Again though - outlier season bumping value a bit for both of these players

I wouldn't move Casey. Just because we have strong right side right now, I wouldn't let that factor into any decision on a prospect with his ability.


Things change rapidly.

 

[NiedermayerNades]

Bardakov - its better to watch. 2026 part is true or may be he will never travel. He bought apartments in St Petersburg few days ago, but may be after the trade, may be before, I don't actually know what is the reason. And his wife is pregnant.

Gritsyuk? Outlier? Its better to watch.

Casey is a first round level talent, may be top 10 pick level talent and has track record and some provement on his level. And he is closer to nhl in compare to the 2024 draft prospects.

Sorry, but your management isn't good. And your informedation(i don't know, does this words exist, you can use imagination to understand) isn't good too.

Gritsyuk's rookie season was inflated by a high shooting % as well as being a rookie playing less than ~40 games.

Gritsyuk is a good prospect who has subsequently been slightly over-valued by NA scouts due to this; his level of success is in line or slightly below Nikita Gusev; largest difference being skating ability

 

[glenwo2]

I think if we were to act out of desperation we would have already.

But if we don't trade for Markstrom now, I don't think we'll trade for him in the off-season. I think we'll go the long-term route instead the short term fix

I think the only move that should be made is Ruff to be shown the door NOW.

Bring up Dineen or something.

 

[Guadana]

I wouldn't move Casey. Just because we have strong right side right now, I wouldn't let that factor into any decision on a prospect with his ability.


Things change rapidly.

One of our strong RD played 2 seasons for the Hospital Devils. We used Foote this season, its not like Casey will have no chance to play.

 

[NiedermayerNades]

I wouldn't move Casey. Just because we have strong right side right now, I wouldn't let that factor into any decision on a prospect with his ability.


Things change rapidly.

Reasonable assessment with an air of safety - I can get behind it

Though Id sooner move Seamus to save myself other assets as well as capitalizing on the high-value the NCAA standout has accumulated; would be fun to imagine a Hughes-Nemec-Casey led defense but id sooner find a solid veteran 3rd D and utilize Seamus toward a goalie or (more suitable) defenseman

While Casey isnt a blackhole defensively, I dont see him being a plus player in his own end in the NHL.

Id also contend and say we need Alexander Holtz more than Seamus Casey.

 

[Lou is God]

I think the only move that should be made is Ruff to be shown the door NOW.

Bring up Dineen or something.

Yeah, no shit but we're talking about the goalie situation, not the coaching.

 

[Guadana]

Gritsyuk's rookie season was inflated by a high shooting % as well as being a rookie playing less than ~40 games.

Gritsyuk is a good prospect who has subsequently been slightly over-valued by NA scouts due to this; his level of success is in line or slightly below Nikita Gusev; largest difference being skating ability

5th round pick? Where he was in prospects rankings all this years?
Rookie playing less than 40 games, how rare for khl. His shooting percent wasn't a mark of his shooting ability he showed after.

So that's all. There are you and some other posters who are dreaming about trading him away. Everybody have the right to be wrong about they understand nothing.

 

[Triumph]

Reasonable assessment with an air of safety - I can get behind it

Though Id sooner move Seamus to save myself other assets as well as capitalizing on the high-value the NCAA standout has accumulated; would be fun to imagine a Hughes-Nemec-Casey led defense but id sooner find a solid veteran 3rd D and utilize Seamus toward a goalie or (more suitable) defenseman

While Casey isnt a blackhole defensively, I dont see him being a plus player in his own end in the NHL.

Id also contend and say we need Alexander Holtz more than Seamus Casey.

Do you ever not change your name? You have had 20 f***ing names on here.

Casey has not accumulated any sort of high value at all. Nobody cares about Casey besides people on this board. He's a 2nd round pick who's having a nice career. Nobody is going to pay a 1st round pick's value for him.

 

[JimEIV]

Reasonable assessment with an air of safety - I can get behind it

Though Id sooner move Seamus to save myself other assets as well as capitalizing on the high-value the NCAA standout has accumulated; would be fun to imagine a Hughes-Nemec-Casey led defense but id sooner find a solid veteran 3rd D and utilize Seamus toward a goalie or (more suitable) defenseman

While Casey isnt a blackhole defensively, I dont see him being a plus player in his own end in the NHL.

Id also contend and say we need Alexander Holtz more than Seamus Casey.

Nah...if another GMt said to me Casey or Holtz.... I'd be packing Holtz bags before I hung up with the other GM.

That said I don't want to move Holtz for a 34 year old goaltender.

 

[Guadana]

Imagine winning the cup with Girard, Makar and Byram. How stupid this idea could be. With Jack Johnson too. What Devils think about with Luke, Simon and Casey as potential defensive core.

 

[NJDevils17]

The decisions this week encapsulate Fitz as a GM

- If he buys, he’s out to lunch and delusional.

- If he sells, he understands where the team is at objectively

- If he stands pat, he backs the current core and reassures the unit OR nobody came close on our FAs

I think 2 is where we should be and Fitz will be judged this week.

 

[jkrdevil]

We are going to make a desperation move in the offseason and take on the full cap hit of a 35 year old with 2 seasons left. Honestly needs to do something better than Markstrom. Need a long-term solution.

Ullmark. One year left on his deal and Swayman is RFA. Have to imagine he is traded. Now will Boston trade him in the East? Who knows, but he should be the #1 target.

 

[njdevils1982]

Welcome to @Bleedred ’s psychedelic psychiatric psionic psychotic psychoactive experience starring DD RangerDoggo and of course Mackenzie Blackwood as the infectious disease specialist.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

The postmortem has seemingly begun in earnest. The board post-loss has been a delight.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Sullivan seems to be on his last legs in Pittsburgh. That's the guy we need. His system is perfect for this roster.

 

[JimEIV]

Do you ever not change your name? You have had 20 f***ing names on here.

Casey has not accumulated any sort of high value at all. Nobody cares about Casey besides people on this board. He's a 2nd round pick who's having a nice career. Nobody is going to pay a 1st round pick's value for him.

You don't think Casey has increased his value at all since draft day?

Howard Stern could've been a body double.

 

[PizzaAndPucks]

This season could be so much more different if Lindy got canned back in December/January. At this point its long overdue to bring in an interim coach to finish the season out. It would do wonders to assess the team heading into the offseason where the real work needs to be done.

 

[Triumph]

You don't think Casey has increased his value at all since draft day?

I didn't say that either. Sure he has. But nobody is going nuts for him - he was a low 2nd round pick and has not played a single professional game. He's not winning Hobey Baker awards. He's having a very fine college career.

 

[NiedermayerNades]

5th round pick? Where he was in prospects rankings all this years?
Rookie playing less than 40 games, how rare for khl. His shooting percent wasn't a mark of his shooting ability he showed after.

So that's all. There are you and some other posters who are dreaming about trading him away. Everybody have the right to be wrong about they understand nothing.

No need to dream about moving him - hes a good player who Id welcome. Im simply trying to determine the best path for using our assets

Do you ever not change your name? You have had 20 f***ing names on here.

Casey has not accumulated any sort of high value at all. Nobody cares about Casey besides people on this board. He's a 2nd round pick who's having a nice career. Nobody is going to pay a 1st round pick's value for him.

Agree to disagree when it comes to Casey - a 46th overall whos produced as he has likely raised his value to that of a late 1st

Not to mention its rare prospects are moved for 1sts in the first place; the idea is for his value to replace a 1st on our behalf, not to receive one

Its not at all far-fetched to assume a team wouldn't want a 1st rounder slotted 24-32 over Seamus Casey who'd be closer to an NHL debut and has progressed more than nicely.

Nah...if another GMt said to me Casey or Holtz.... I'd be packing Holtz bags before I hung up with the other GM.

That said I don't want to move Holtz for a 34 year old goaltender.

I think Holtz can be very good at what we drafted him to be - a goalscorer for our team whos shot can beat the goalie from near anywhere

Holtz staying allows us to keep a top-9 slot cheap for the foreseeable future while Casey isnt even NHL-bound for another few years

 

[BurntToast]

Nico, Bratt and Jack is pretty much all Fitz inherited. Good start for sure but that's not a roster...

Not a single defender, not a single legit goaltender, after Bratt there were hardly any viable wingers...Almost everything else was spare parts

Fitz added Vitek, Hamilton, Marino, Siegenthaler, Graves drafted Luke and Nemec....added extras in Miller and Smith....the entire defense literally.

Brought in Palat, Haula, Toffolli, Meier, Lazar...drafted Mercer and Holtz.

Shit blew up this year....but Fitz has done a masterful job shaping this roster from nothing.

I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not.

Nico, Bratt and Hughes are the core. They are the best part of this team.

Most of Fitz’s adds are bad.

Vitek: Bad
Graves: Everyone said he sucks.
Siegs: Bad for 1.5 seasons.
Marino: Bad this year.
Smith: Very bad/terrible penalties.
Luke: Will be good, no brainer pic.
Nemec: Rookie, great pic.

The defense is half the reason the Devils suck.

Mercer/Holtz our 3rd/4th line warriors: great picks.

Palat: Terrible contract, from the moment the ink hit the paper. Slow.
Meier: Should be a good signing, but hè red could end up worse than Palat.

 

[Xirik]

So is there any prospect that the Devils could give some games to since this season is down the drain?