Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part IV

[DevilsHughes86]

His Qualifying Officer is 10M next season, but that doesn't guarantee he'd get that on a long-term contract.

That's what I thought. Thanks

 

[Devils731]

Maybe I read wrong somewhere but isn't he assured of 10 million for next season?

If it's the case, I'd try to figure out a way to lower the cap hit closer to 7, 7.5 per year.

As for the trade, I don't have an issue with it, I don't really care about not protecting our pick for this season as it doesn't seem it will be in the top 20 anyway

Yes, Meier has a qualifying offer of $10 million for next year.

So when you’re negotiating the agent is going to say year 1 is $10 million and years 2-7 are buying UFA years.

I imagine Meier will end up with a 7 year deal where he gets an extra $0.33 - $0.5 million per year over normal as a way to buy back the premium of that qualifying offer.

 

[DevilsHughes86]

Yes, Meier has a qualifying offer of $10 million for next year.

So when you’re negotiating the agent is going to say year 1 is $10 million and years 2-7 are buying UFA years.

I imagine Meier will end up with a 7 year deal where he gets an extra $0.33 - $0.5 million per year over normal as a way to buy back the premium of that qualifying offer.

Or if acquired, Fitz tries to lower the cap hit by giving him an extra year (8)

Man I hope Claude can have an influence here on Timo and have him sign for a little cheaper besides that 1st year!

 

[mdj12784]

Is it true Meier is vacationing in Mexico with Hischier, Siegenthaler, family and friends, or am I sucker for a bs rumor??

 

[TrufleShufle]

Is it true Meier is vacationing in Mexico with Hischier, Siegenthaler, family and friends, or am I sucker for a bs rumor??

Both things can be true.

 

[AfroThunder396]

Something like 1st + Holtz + Sharangovich seems in the ballpark. I can't imagine that Grier, being the kind of guy that he is, will accept a package that doesn't contain a roster player who can step in right now. He's not a tank/pure futures kind of guy. He will want his guys to compete and finish the year strong.

San Jose is 20th in goals scored, I think having a couple of shooters would be good for them (especially after moving on from Meier).

 

[Saugus]

Is it true Meier is vacationing in Mexico with Hischier, Siegenthaler, family and friends, or am I sucker for a bs rumor??

It might be true, but even if it is, it might not mean anything. The Swiss guys want to vacation together, that seems like something that might happen even without the trade rumors.

Maybe while they're at the swim up bar, something about Meier's future comes up and Nico says "wouldn't it be nice?", but I doubt they went on vacation together for the express purpose of tampering with him. That would be some real long term shit.

 

[FooteBahl]

Something like 1st + Holtz + Sharangovich seems in the ballpark. I can't imagine that Grier, being the kind of guy that he is, will accept a package that doesn't contain a roster player who can step in right now. He's not a tank/pure futures kind of guy. He will want his guys to compete and finish the year strong.

San Jose is 20th in goals scored, I think having a couple of shooters would be good for them (especially after moving on from Meier).

I’d really prefer to keep one of Holtz/Shara—we’re not exactly stacked on the wings either.

 

[mdj12784]

It might be true, but even if it is, it might not mean anything. The Swiss guys want to vacation together, that seems like something that might happen even without the trade rumors.

Maybe while they're at the swim up bar, something about Meier's future comes up and Nico says "wouldn't it be nice?", but I doubt they went on vacation together for the express purpose of tampering with him. That would be some real long term shit.

True, but doesn’t mean that can’t talk shop, at least a little bit…

Both things can be true.

Thanks lol

 

[AfroThunder396]

I’d really prefer to keep one of Holtz/Shara—we’re not exactly stacked on the wings either.

The coaching staff doesn't know what to do with either of them, Holtz is in the press box and Sharangovich is on the 4th line. I don't think either is a big loss.

Plus, the whole point of this trade is to acquire Timo Meier, a winger. Meier/Bratt/Palat/Mercer is four quality wingers with Tatar/Zetterlund as pretty serviceable middle-6 guys.

Though I do agree that after this move the bottom-6 would need some attention, another minor forward add to help with depth. Someone like Nick Bjugstad or Pool Party might be a nice cheap addition.

Meier-Hughes-Mercer
Bratt-Hischier-Palat
Tatar-Haula-Pool Party
Wood-McLeod-Zetterlund

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Yeah said it yesterday, Sharangovich shouldn't be the hold up. You're not playing him consistently enough in the top 6 to make that argument in a trade with Grier if you're Fitz.

 

[FooteBahl]

The coaching staff doesn't know what to do with either of them, Holtz is in the press box and Sharangovich is on the 4th line. I don't think either is a big loss.

Plus, the whole point of this trade is to acquire Timo Meier, a winger. Meier/Bratt/Palat/Mercer is four quality wingers with Tatar/Zetterlund as pretty serviceable middle-6 guys.

Though I do agree that after this move the bottom-6 would need some attention, another minor forward add to help with depth. Someone like Nick Bjugstad or Pool Party might be a nice cheap addition.

Meier-Hughes-Mercer
Bratt-Hischier-Palat
Tatar-Haula-Pool Party
Wood-McLeod-Zetterlund

I agree…we just need to hope one of Foote/Clarke/Gristyuk/Thompson/Filmon or dare I say Stillman to break out to complete the bottom six.

 

[hidek91]

Let’s say it’s both of them at 9. You’d have Jack, Bratt, Nico, Meier, Palat, Dougie, Siegs, Marino at a combined ~56 mil for the next 4 years. You’ve got Vitek at 3.4 for the next 2. You’ll have Luke and Nemec on ELCs for part of that. Sure it’s not the easiest thing in the world but we’d still be in really good shape

Yes, I agree that we're in a really good shape and will be for some years unless we screw it somehow but the players you've listed, at least the group of forwards, would mean that we would be very top heavy, especially when removing pieces like Sharangovich and still developing Holtz (he can still put it up together and become a cost controlled top six forward) .

I don't want to say that I'm 100% against trading for Meier but the assets needed to do that and his cap hit mean that it's improving our top six at the cost of depth.

 

[My3Sons]

I would hope they can extend Bratt before they make any move for Meier.

 

[Triumph]

Didn't Zidlicky vacation with the Czechs and Zubrus while he was still with the Wild or is that a false memory?

 

[R8Devs]

The coaching staff doesn't know what to do with either of them, Holtz is in the press box and Sharangovich is on the 4th line. I don't think either is a big loss.

Plus, the whole point of this trade is to acquire Timo Meier, a winger. Meier/Bratt/Palat/Mercer is four quality wingers with Tatar/Zetterlund as pretty serviceable middle-6 guys.

Though I do agree that after this move the bottom-6 would need some attention, another minor forward add to help with depth. Someone like Nick Bjugstad or Pool Party might be a nice cheap addition.

Meier-Hughes-Mercer
Bratt-Hischier-Palat
Tatar-Haula-Pool Party
Wood-McLeod-Zetterlund

There’s more to those guys than just this season. Devils have a bunch of UFAs and another big contract will make cheap depth even more necessary. Regardless you have to give to get so it wouldn’t surprise me for some guys to go the other way but I doubt management would do it bc of short term fit issues.

 

[Hisch13r]

Yes, I agree that we're in a really good shape and will be for some years unless we screw it somehow but the players you've listed, at least the group of forwards, would mean that we would be very top heavy, especially when removing pieces like Sharangovich and still developing Holtz (he can still put it up together and become a cost controlled top six forward) .

I don't want to say that I'm 100% against trading for Meier but the assets needed to do that and his cap hit mean that it's improving our top six at the cost of depth.

I’d be less into it if he wasn’t so good. I’ll take the elite player and worry about potential consequences later

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Is it true Meier is vacationing in Mexico with Hischier, Siegenthaler, family and friends, or am I sucker for a bs rumor??

they're all there right now with their wives/girlfriends. Are they there together? I don't think THAT has been confirmed yet, but yeah. You can kind of connect the dots I'd say.

 

[Devils731]

they're all there right now with their wives/girlfriends. Are they there together? I don't think THAT has been confirmed yet, but yeah. You can kind of connect the dots I'd say.

It would kind of be funny if this board and Twitter are all busy speculating and the Devils guys don’t even know Meier is there too.

 

[Guadana]

 

[Cheddabombs]

Maybe Timo's just friends with everyone and wanted to vacation with them, nothing too crazy. Now, if Fitz was also on this trip then that'd be something! Or maybe he'd just want to hang out with the fellas

 

[NjDevsRR]

Maybe Timo's just friends with everyone and wanted to vacation with them, nothing too crazy. Now, if Fitz was also on this trip then that'd be something! Or maybe he'd just want to hang out with the fellas

 

[MadDevil]

Is it true Meier is vacationing in Mexico with Hischier, Siegenthaler, family and friends, or am I sucker for a bs rumor??

Is Mueller there with them?

 

[guitarguyvic]

LOL you guys are hilarious. I don't think GM's make trade decisions based on which players hang out together on vacation. I mean, I'm sure familiarity could play a role, but it would be incredibly minor compared to other factors.

 

[NjDevsRR]

LOL you guys are hilarious. I don't think GM's make trade decisions based on which players hang out together on vacation. I mean, I'm sure familiarity could play a role, but it would be incredibly minor compared to other factors.

But in a way, Meier has more control than in a normal trade in terms of where he could wind up going. A team he could extend with will return the biggest booty to San Jose.

So, him potentially mucking it up on vacation with Devils players is definitely worth a discussion.