Triumph
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Every young player has to improve on things to succeed, that isn't something that's specific to only a certain player type. The reason that defensive defenseman are more rare has to do with a change in philosophy in terms of what a modern defenseman should be and the fact that most players who have the talent to become NHL level defenseman are going to be focusing more on their offensive game since their skill level will likely be higher than that of their peers. That's why someone like Okhotyuk that has great mobility as a skater along with the defensive skill, size and toughness that you want out of a stay at home defender is a very interesting player.
I don't think that the philosophy about defensemen has changed considerably in the last 5-10 years. The big change was in 2005 when they got rid of the obstruction/hooking/holding. Teams still want guys who can play defense, kill penalties, and make life miserable for the opposing team. I don't think that has changed. I think there's fewer of them because it's difficult to have these skills, have the puck skills necessary to play at the NHL level, and also NOT have an offensive side to your game at all.
Why does he have to be excellent at everything to be anything more than a bottom pairing player? There's plenty of avenues for a player to become successful, saying the only way he could be anything more than a bottom pairing player is if he becomes great at every single aspect apart from scoring is an unrealistic standard.
Because that's the reality for players who don't contribute on offense. They almost always lack the puck skill to play above the bottom pairing, and when they're called on to play a top 4 role, they usually struggle.
The same things you've said about Okhotyuk are the same things you would have been saying about Siegenthaler last season. Okhotyuk is only 21 years old and already has a short sample of playing good hockey at the NHL level, to say he has nothing more than bottom pairing potential seems like a silly statement to make considering the circumstances.
Siegenthaler had a season with Washington where he looked like a potential shutdown D in a 3rd pairing role, it's why I was in favor of the move for him. If you want to go back to last summer to see me defending him nonstop, you can do so, it's searchable. Nonetheless, when Okhotiuk has one of those seasons, I will say the same thing about him, but this is a walking versus running scenario, and almost nobody who starts where Okhotiuk starts out gets to run. Siegenthaler is one of them, that is very rare in today's game.
Again, you are wildly overrating this 5 game sample, where Okhotiuk was okay but not great - he had one excellent game, one terrible one, and 3 in between. The fact that the great game was the first one he played has lodged in people's minds here. He's got potential, but there's a long way to go.
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