Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - offseason edition

[Devils731]

I appreciate you posted the source so I can determine on my own how to feel about it.

My initial look is it would be weird for a guy with this small a following to have sources.

 

[Devs3cups]

who the hell is that

Basically has a Hab Fan Page

I appreciate you posted the source so I can determine on my own how to feel about it.

My initial look is it would be weird for a guy with this small a following to have sources.

Especially in MTL lol

 

[devilsblood]

who the hell is that

Patrick "L". Bald guy. CBJ involved.

It's Laine trying to get out of Columbus.

 

[Mgd31]

Dev's acquiring Gallagher in hopes of getting Tatar going?

I don't think "getting Tatar going" is high on the Devils list of priorities. Also Gallagher kind of stinks now and his contract is awful.

 

[devilsblood]

I don't think "getting Tatar going" is high on the Devils list of priorities. Also Gallagher kind of stinks now and his contract is awful.

Good thing I was joking.

 

[youryeah]

police chief: get to the bottom of this novozinsky

 

[Devils731]

That guy didn’t even come up with that trade rumor it looks like

 

[Devs3cups]

You can go back and say “if this, if that” but at the end of the day that Kings team was better on paper and on the ice than the Devils. The better team won, which is how it should be (and usually is).

The Rangers' 2022 playoff run has entered the chat.

 

[Guttersniped]

That guy didn’t even come up with that trade rumor it looks like

The original guy’s rumor is more head spinning, the plagiarist simplified it lol.

We would give Columbus the 2nd? Start those Laine trade proposals back up lol.

 

[Saugus]

That guy didn’t even come up with that trade rumor it looks like

There's something mordantly funny about BS Twitter rumor mongers arguing amongst themselves about stealing "credit". Credit for what? Nonsensical rumors that get clicks, but clearly have no real sourcing behind them? It's like arguing over who is the "real" Eklund.

The idea that those specific three teams could be involved in trade talks, and none of the high picks those teams hold are being discussed, strains credulity. How often does a three team trade happen, anyway?

This is as bad as that silly Maxim Lapierre crap about the Habs getting the #2 pick without sending us anything of value. Not worth thinking about.

 

[devilsfan35]

I like the way fitz thinks. If we are trading a potential 6’4” power forward, might as well get one in return with laine.
Then again everyone is spitballing their own theories. The draft can’t come any sooner

 

[AfroThunder396]

1.) The source sucks and I don't buy it.
2.) But it's a fun thought experiment. The only thing I can think of is some kind of salary retention shenanigans, but that doesn't make a ton of sense. It would need to be CBJ retaining salary for a player getting dealt to NJ and I'm not sure why they would do that.

The guys that would need retention are guys like Anderson or Gallagher, but that would involve using a retention slot for FIVE YEARS of dead cap. No way that a third team would do that, and both of those guys really suck but I'm horrified that Fitz will target them becuz grit.

Hoffman or Dvorak have less term, and it's interesting that Dvorak has a NTC for 2023-24 and 24-25 but not for this year. So if MTL wants to dump him they'd want to do it soon. But again, neither of those seem like players you would need extra retention for.

An interesting idea would be something like NJ acquired Voracek (2 years remaining at 8.25M, 62 points in 79 games for CBJ this year) but MTL is the one retaining salary. Something like:

To NJ:
Voracek (27.3% retained = 6M cap hit)

To CBJ:
Hoffman
NJ's 2nd 2022

To MTL:
Zacha
NJ's 4th 2022
(2.25M dead cap through 2024-25)

Laine is the other one on CBJ that would make sense, but he's RFA so I don't know why we would need a 3rd team.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I would trade #2 for #6 and #12 (from CBJ) and then use one of those two picks to trade for a Meier or Tkachuk

 

[SKNJD9]

Gonna be a long rumor driven nonsense month... draft cant get here quick enough

 

[MartyOwns]

the loss to the avs in 2001 hurt way worse than the kings loss. we had those f***ers on the ropes and couldn’t finish them off

 

[StevenToddIves]

I don't think that's how it really works. Yes, obviously there is level of trust/authority but not in the way you're thinking. The GM sets the standard and a blueprint of what kind of players he wants, and then the scouts go find those players who fit those criteria. And this is why I'm kind of worried, Fitz drafting style has not looked very good. If for some reason you think it's not on the gm, just look at the drastic differences in the drafting from shero to fitz with largely the same scouting staff.

I'd have to agree with everything here.

You don't go from 5th/6th round picks of Gritsyuk/Moynihan in one year to 5th/6th round picks of Shlaine/Baumgartner the very next year without a major change in draft strategy.

The scouts were the same between 2019 & 2020, but the GM was different. And there was a clearly different approach to the draft in those two years.

All the talk is about the #2 pick right now, and understandably so, but the Devils have 8 more picks the rest of the way and how Fitzgerald strategizes them is extremely important to the future of this franchise.

 

[devilsblood]

Gonna be a long rumor driven nonsense month... draft cant get here quick enough

AKA June.

 

[Better Call Sal]

can you post a few quotes? it’s bad enough i paid money to be on hf, i won’t make the same mistake with nj.com

Funny enough I'm trying to subscribe to support the new guy here and NJ.com won't f***ing load so I haven't been able to read it myself yet.

 

[youryeah]

Funny enough I'm trying to subscribe to support the new guy here and NJ.com won't f***ing load so I haven't been able to read it myself yet.

I tried like 5 times last night on multiple browsers and I finally was able to subscribe. the NJ.com website looks/feels like it's from the early 2000s.

LET ME SUPPORT YOU NOVOZINSKY

 

[glenwo2]

I "wow'd" it because I'm just not used to REGULAR Devils-Centric articles being regularly posted.

I have to rub my eyes to make sure they're not deceiving me.

 

[guitarguyvic]

The Rangers' 2022 playoff run has entered the chat.

? I’m talking about winning the cup. And you can argue they were the better team when the opponent was an aging Pittsburgh team starting the third string goalie and a Carolina team that has failed to prove anything in the playoffs (and also was playing their backup goalie).

 

[devilsblood]

I would trade #2 for #6 and #12 (from CBJ) and then use one of those two picks to trade for a Meier or Tkachuk

I'm in on that trade as well though I wouldn't then trade the #6. I want one of the RHD at that spot.

I don't think Tkachuk is a realistic option, but Meier could be, and I'd be in on Meier for the #12, add Smith or whoever as needed

That would be a huge draft day for NJ.

 

[glenwo2]

I tried like 5 times last night on multiple browsers and I finally was able to subscribe. the NJ.com website looks/feels like it's from the early 2000s.

LET ME SUPPORT YOU NOVOZINSKY

I just subbed.

Make sure you have adblockers, noscript, and ublock turned off so you can sign-up.

10 bucks a month to read his articles? I don't mind that considering he's churning them out like crazy as opposed to the void of nothing-ness we got before.

 

[devilsblood]

? I’m talking about winning the cup. And you can argue they were the better team when the opponent was an aging Pittsburgh team starting the third string goalie and a Carolina team that has failed to prove anything in the playoffs (and also was playing their backup goalie).

Difference between Pitt and Rag's was solely in net, otherwise Pitt was by far the better team, aging or not.

To the general point how often does a "weak" team win the cup? Not often. How often does the "best" team win the cup, not as often as maybe you suggest.

 

[Devs3cups]

? I’m talking about winning the cup. And you can argue they were the better team when the opponent was an aging Pittsburgh team starting the third string goalie and a Carolina team that has failed to prove anything in the playoffs (and also was playing their backup goalie).

I was mostly joking anyways, but I thought you were talking about individual series. I definitely think the Pens and Hurricanes outplayed the Rangers, but Igor's gonna Igor.