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No, I'm not serious.
Lazar would do a better job at ES, worse on the PK, to be fair.
Net result is pretty similar though.
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Net result is pretty similar though.
Consensus seems to be Tatar is a goner. Graves too. For different reasons but both are now just squeezed out.
Boq maybe hangs around as cheap depth with upside.
Bastian is a rock I think they will, like with Mikey, want to keep around at the right price.
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Surprised to see the backlash on McLeod here. He was one of their top 5 players in the playoffs, eye test. Analytics not so much. Was hoping he can use the new found confidence to springboard into next season, he became much more patient with the puck, the move on Eegor alone was huge. I think he was played above his role out of necessity towards the end (3C) but imo he's a more than serviceable 4C. Term/salary are obviously huge but I'd like him back.
The Team Canada off-ice stuff notwithstanding...
The Team Canada off-ice stuff notwithstanding...
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Nobody said they don't want him back. What I (and a few others) have said is that we don't want him signed for 5 years.
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Some thoughts on Hellebyuck
*if the cap isnt going to rise by 3-5M every season for the next half decade, then tough decisions will most certainly need to be made by year 3-4
Winnipeg would need to retain at least 30% on his final year. We could afford to sign him to 8x8, length to keep the number down plus youd be moving him toward the end anyhow.
As for value going back we have more leverage so Id expect it be Schmid+Boqvist+'23 2nd; or if we want Vanecek to go it may take Holtz+'23 4th. Maybe throw in a middling prospect to either
The thought process is the cap rising in conjunction with our signings creates a perfect storm that allows for us to squeeze out more, bigger deals than most contending teams ever could due to the structure and separation in which they signed
By the time Luke and Nemec need deals (Mercer can still be fit-in at under 7), youd have moved on from Palat Haula and one of Marino or Siegenthaler. Having Casey McCartht and Edwards should help us save some money down the line.
Itd require some tightrope-finagling of contracts for RFAs but would also allow us to stay clear of the free agent market outside of forward depth. I do believe this can be done and I hope Fitzgerald sees the same advantageous timeline
*if the cap isnt going to rise by 3-5M every season for the next half decade, then tough decisions will most certainly need to be made by year 3-4
Winnipeg would need to retain at least 30% on his final year. We could afford to sign him to 8x8, length to keep the number down plus youd be moving him toward the end anyhow.
As for value going back we have more leverage so Id expect it be Schmid+Boqvist+'23 2nd; or if we want Vanecek to go it may take Holtz+'23 4th. Maybe throw in a middling prospect to either
The thought process is the cap rising in conjunction with our signings creates a perfect storm that allows for us to squeeze out more, bigger deals than most contending teams ever could due to the structure and separation in which they signed
By the time Luke and Nemec need deals (Mercer can still be fit-in at under 7), youd have moved on from Palat Haula and one of Marino or Siegenthaler. Having Casey McCartht and Edwards should help us save some money down the line.
Itd require some tightrope-finagling of contracts for RFAs but would also allow us to stay clear of the free agent market outside of forward depth. I do believe this can be done and I hope Fitzgerald sees the same advantageous timeline
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He scored 19 regular season goals the last 3 years in 209 games. I thought he was a goner for sure before the playoffs started.
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McLeod's ability to lineup for any important draw cant be understated; yes, faceoffs predominantly hold little to no value but a player who excels at them and can be plugged-and-played as needed extends past the typical conversation of a center
I would have assumed Fitz was ready to throw on a Hawaiian shirt and flip flops and take it easy now, he’s certainly earned it. But there still seems to be a lot of smoke that Fitz is still wheeling and dealing.
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Im wondering if Friedman knows something we don't
I say that because who normally questions what a team is doing in net when their two goalies posted good numbers and are cheap?
Not often you see that...
Just repeating what's already been said at this point, but really not much left to do aside from sign the RFAs and bottom pair D and get to camp.
I suppose if anything did materialize to add some form of depth on a 1 year deal just to use up our cap space that would be worth doing, but I'm really quite confident going into next year with this group.
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Lazar, Bastian
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If that isn't the best group in the league, it's damn close.
I suppose if anything did materialize to add some form of depth on a 1 year deal just to use up our cap space that would be worth doing, but I'm really quite confident going into next year with this group.
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Palat-Haula-Holtz
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Lazar, Bastian
Siegenthaler-Marino
Hughes-Hamilton
Bahl-Guy
Smith
Vanecek
Schmid
If that isn't the best group in the league, it's damn close.
Not Huala. Haula. Think "We will have a haula stanley cups soon."
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Goaltending is the only question mark. Vanecek Schmid is a huge blind spot.
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A far cry from Lou’s mantra of “when you got time on your side use it “
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Wouldn't be surprised if Fitz kicks the tires on Hellebuyck as a rental and hopefully makes him just want to be here for a year. There's not much more you can do if you're Fitz trying to entice Saros or Hellebuyck to leave their respective teams for NJ
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The fact that they went 7D and played him as one of their 3 centers big minutes made me think they see him a core player moving forward potentially.
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Part of me thinks, we get a goalie at the deadline but then you run into the whole issue of learning new teammates + how their system is as a goalie. Logan Thompson or Hellebuyck would be fine by me
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I get thinking this way, but I think there's recency bias in not believing they can provide at least league average goaltending. I'm comfortable enough sacrificing in goal to have one of the deepest groups of skaters out there.
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Shouldnt your issue be salary not term?
If McLeod agreed to 1m for 5 years, you arent signing that?
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