Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - 2023 offseason part II

[MasterofGrond]

Oh god Fitz about to sign mikey to 8x9

 

[EnglishDevil]

Fitz is absolutely killing it, Meier & Bratt long term for a hair under $16.7m is an absolute bargain given that the cap is likely going to explode the next few years.

 

[SJinNewJersey]

Source is crap, but lets see what's up

 

[OmNomNom]

alright fitzy get superbuddies for 3x2 each

 

[devilsblood]

Oh god Fitz about to sign mikey to 8x9

I've said it before, but I'd definitely sign a non jailed McLeod to a 5 year deal.

 

[My3Sons]

When you have to explain your jokes.........

It’s not a joke explanation. It’s just me being honest about not creating it. The jokes write themselves and need no explanation which was the point of the post I responded to.

 

[devilsblood]

It’s not a joke explanation. It’s just me being honest about not creating it. The jokes write themselves and need no explanation which was the point of the post I responded to.

The hole keeps getting deeper.

 

[Ol Dirty Bstrd]

Bogosian for our vet RD?

I could see Fitz going for him or Schenn, but I’d prefer someone a little better like Soucy, Clifton, Gudas if the cost is reasonable

 

[MasterofGrond]

I've said it before, but I'd definitely sign a non jailed McLeod to a 5 year deal.

Mikey 5 year looks like that Kampf deal.

No interest.

 

[devilsblood]

alright fitzy get superbuddies for 3x2 each

By drafting the both of them, and then bringing Bastian back, we've absolutely done those guys a solid.

Big factor? No, but maybe something like that saves a team a couple bucks.

 

[Zippy316]

I've said it before, but I'd definitely sign a non jailed McLeod to a 5 year deal.

I think the issue here is a long term deal for McLeod would have a higher AAV than the Devils like.

It’s better to go cheaper for 3 years and letting him cash in as a UFA to make up the money he passed up.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Source is crap, but lets see what's up

Fitz isn’t done cooking

 

[Forge]

Mikey 5 year looks like that Kampf deal.

No interest.

I'm not sure how I'd feel about MIkey on that type of deal. I've been expecting 3 years, 2 million per for Mikey. If it's 4 at 2.5 - 2.8, I don't know how to feel. I don't think it's egregious or anything, but seems slightly unnecessary

 

[Andre Palot]

Goalie you say?

 

[MasterofGrond]

I'm not sure how I'd feel about MIkey on that type of deal. I've been expecting 3 years, 2 million per for Mikey. If it's 4 at 2.5 - 2.8, I don't know how to feel. I don't think it's egregious or anything, but seems slightly unnecessary

It’s just a waste of 1M that you’re locked into.

I’m not as big a hater as I was pre playoffs, but he’s eminently replaceable and guys like him are available every year. No need to commit term to that.

 

[devilsblood]

Mikey 5 year looks like that Kampf deal.

No interest.

Kampf is a guy Toronto leans on pretty heavily. Most defensive faceoffs on the team. Most PK minutes amongst fwds. Actually contributed 27 points this year.

I don't see that as a bad deal.

Sign the younger Mikey for less AAV and that works out well for the Devils.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

It’s just a waste of 1M that you’re locked into.

I’m not as big a hater as I was pre playoffs, but he’s eminently replaceable and guys like him are available every year. No need to commit term to that.

McLeod was a top-5 faceoff taker and carries the load of his line defensively and with his speed

I disagree he is replaceable, at least in the sense we'd be getting back an equivalent player. Fourth liners have value just like a backup goalie does

 

[devilsblood]

It’s just a waste of 1M that you’re locked into.

I’m not as big a hater as I was pre playoffs, but he’s eminently replaceable and guys like him are available every year. No need to commit term to that.

Big fast 26 year old face off ace's are available every year?

 

[Drivingrain]

My cousin is a Devils and Orioles fan.

You're not my cousin, are you?

Hmmm...maybe.

 

[MasterofGrond]

McLeod was a top-5 faceoff taker and carries the load of his line defensively and with his speed

I disagree he is replaceable, at least in the sense we'd be getting back an equivalent player. Fourth liners have value just like a backup goalie does

Yes they have value, but not 2.5+ over 4-5 years.

If your carrying skill is faceoffs, like that’s the first thing people mention about you, that’s a guy you can replace sorry. And he’s not really a defensive ace either, as every single stat shows.

He’s a very good PKer, and that’s not nothing, but that’s not a dude you overspend on.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

no 4th liner should ever, ever be signed longterm. Ever. Not even the best 4th liner in NHL history.

 

[Guadana]

Tommy Fitz will go down as the best GM, in any sport, globally, since the dawn of time. Yes that is hyperbole, but my god he can do no wrong.

Its a joke he wasnt nominated for the price. But who cares.

 

[devilsblood]

I think the issue here is a long term deal for McLeod would have a higher AAV than the Devils like.

It’s better to go cheaper for 3 years and letting him cash in as a UFA to make up the money he passed up.

Does it though? I do like Mikey, but he scored all of 4 goals last year, he's here with his BFF, and he does carry some baggage.

But my thought here is lock him up on the cheap. If it costs more to actually do so, then yeah, no.

no 4th liner should ever, ever be signed longterm. Ever. Not even the best 4th liner in NHL history.

That's one opinion.

 

[MasterofGrond]

Big fast 26 year old face off ace's are available every year?

Bad offensively, mediocre defensively but good PK guys kind of are available every year. I don’t care if he’s big and fast if it doesn’t lead to good results.

And I’m more than fine having Nico be our “faceoff ace”

 

[BronzeAgeDevilsFan]

i actually liked mccleod a lot in the playoffs. there were a few important plays he was involved in