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Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - 2023 offseason part II

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BurntToast said:
I take a break from HFboards for a few days, and I come back to see an additional 30 plus tabs thinking something dope went down..

Nope, it just you guys picking up old debates and picking fights. Love it.

I don’t care too much about the past, but you don’t get Fitz without Ray.
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Don't forget about @Guadana and I lauding the greatness of Led Zeppelin.
 
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BurntToast said:
I don’t care too much about the past, but you don’t get Fitz without Ray.
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Pretty much the best way to look at things.

The only thing I'll chime in to say on this topic is that the change had to happen. Lou had to turn the keys over, it was clear his vision emptied the cupboard and that he wasn't intending on moving aside to stay within the organization. He wanted to continue being a GM and that's why he's still doing it nearly 10 years after the fact. God bless the man for everything he did for us, and I'll always love him, but the change was necessary.

Shero's end results are a very mixed bag with more bad than good when you look at the season results themselves. However, he hit on some trades and PTOs (Palmieri, Stempniak, Schlemko, John Moore even) and drafted reasonably well. Even if some players didn’t hit here, they were flipped eventually for better players now. And of course, you don’t get Fitz here without Shero either.

That should be the end of the discussion. There isn’t much more to say, and we’re all quite happy with the position we’re in. It’s been a long process, but let’s not dwell on how long it took.
 
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JimEIV said:
Definitely can be a solid group...
but it's hard to ignore that a 1/3 of the defense no full season NHL experience.
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This is where I think the Miller signing is actually pretty under the radar significant. It allows us to not have to roll out Nemec and Hughes just yet with a 3rd relatively unproven D in Bahl. 1/3 is better than 1/2 in the respect.
Devs3cups said:
I’m way more concerned about our goaltending than defense, and I’m not that concerned about goaltending.

Graves was meh at the end here and Severson is a loss but he was a 3rd pairing guy for us. I trust Hughes can have an immediate impact (given his play with us at the end of the season I don’t see why not, even if it was a small sample size) and that Bahl can hold his own. Hopefully he can PK.

I can see a small drop off on D, but nothing dramatic and it’s obviously for the best moving forward.
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All Hail Akira.
Triumph said:
This is risible on its face. The Devils got huge results up and down the lineup - Jack Hughes could've missed every game last year and the Devils still would've made the playoffs, though it would've been much closer.
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No they wouldn't, this is almost laughable.
 
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LOLZ

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And the Islanders finished dead last in the rankings:

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Isles seem set for a very Nashville Predators (past 20 years) future, mediocre team carried by goaltending. Maybe it will keep Lou gainfully employed, I do wonder if Isles fans will be as charmed by a mediocre NHL team has Nashville fans seemingly were and maybe attendance submarines.
 
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StevenToddIves said:
Never saw Zeppelin, but I saw the Stones on the Steel Wheels tour at Shea Stadium. I was a kid then. I'm pretty sure you're older haha. You probably saw the Jimi Hendrix experience. Heck, I wouldn't be shocked if I learned you went to a Mozart concert.


I don't like the lottery ticket analogy because it insinuates drafting late is all luck. Sure, there's some luck involved, but you increase that luck with good scouting and draft philosophy. It's more like a suicide pool -- sure, luck is greatly involved, but the smarter people have a far better chance of hitting it big.
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Fair enough ... I would defer to you as to whether specific scouts/GMs/teams have a track record of "outperforming" with their later-round picks. If so, then that would certainly bear out the smarter people theory. Obviously, the Devils staff felt that Bratt had more upside vs. anyone else that was out there and, if so, they deserve credit for seeing that when no other team did. My point was (and is) that they didn't deem him worthy of being picked earlier.

Also ... the concert discussion is making me feel young, as my first concert wasn't until 1980
 
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Billdo said:
This is where I think the Miller signing is actually pretty under the radar significant. It allows us to not have to roll out Nemec and Hughes just yet with a 3rd relatively unproven D in Bahl. 1/3 is better than 1/2 in the respect.

All Hail Akira.

No they wouldn't, this is almost laughable.
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I mean they had the best regular season in franchise history. Yes Jack was a big part of that, but they definitely could’ve managed to squeeze in.
 
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Guadana said:
And Brock Faber. Another typical hockey player to be favorite on Guadanas lists. I spent a lot of time to tell why Schneider should be drafted in the first round or at least by top 20 pick, but I


There are no luck. People who think that trading picks is okay and they cost nothing , just dint understand what they are talking about. Good scouts drafting good players regularly in later rounds. Some will not translate the game on the new level, some will do it. This is literally how some teams have 10-15 prospects with nhl potential and some teams haven't even 5.
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We must believe in luck. For how else can we explain the success of those we don't like?

--Jean Cocteau
 
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Billdo said:
This is where I think the Miller signing is actually pretty under the radar significant. It allows us to not have to roll out Nemec and Hughes just yet with a 3rd relatively unproven D in Bahl. 1/3 is better than 1/2 in the respect.

All Hail Akira.

No they wouldn't, this is almost laughable.
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Agreed on Miller. TT keeps getting forgotten about too. He brings so much that gets underrated and could help a young team take another step.
 
I've spent the entire summer going on Youtube and watching highlights from last season. First time in a long time I've done that.

I just looked up Palat clowning Fox and Kreider in Game 7 and it made me smile. Same with watching Hughes highlights, Dougie highlights, Mercer highlights, Nico highlights. This team is so much fun and I love them so much.
 
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