Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - 2023 offseason part II

[Blackjack]

user registered date: Feb 13, 2003

you've been around long enough to know that most won't hold shit against you...people have their own opinion on things...so what? right? (not that i think you did or said anything wrong)

If people held shit agains me idve been run out of town… decades ago.

 

[NJDevs26]

Technically the 2020 off-season felt like the longest off-season ever, because it was.

That’s because the break between games was 3/10/2020 to 1/14/2021 and the 2020 draft was October 6-7.

A bit different vibe going on with the team and life in general. (We waited so f***ing long for that draft though lol.)

Well since the '04 lockout anyway.

 

[Guadana]

Thank you for sharing. Parts of your story are terrible, like them eating your dog. I probably would have killed them regardless of how hungry they were and you didn't mention they starving so, yeah, I would have killed them at least one.

Don't be so strict. Originally it was their dogs. And yes, they treated dogs, as I understood, like we treated chickens. But someone treats chickens differently. Something will seem terrible for them, which seems normal for a European or an American.
They were generally nice people, one of them bought me my first sniсkers, they joked and laughed, loved their children, worked and also dreamed of a better life than living in a house with a toilet in the yard and without a shower.

 

[mdj12784]

You told the story of your dog, I'll tell you the story of mine. Maybe you'll like it.
In the 90s, when few people had jobs, there was nothing left of the economy and the law, everyone try to find money by any way as they could. My grandmother lived in an old small hut (izba) with garden around it. My family grew food in the garden so that there would be food. And my grandmother rented the house to a family of Vietnamese who came to sell junk in our market. We came and work in the garden, and in the evening we returned to the apartment we lived.
They had two dogs. And one day when we came, one dog was missing. It turned out they ate it. We bought a second dog from them. The Vietnamese left six months later. So Chipka appeared in my life - the child of vicious love between a Pekingese and a mongrel. She was very smart and perfectly understood and reacted accordingly when we talked to her. Sometimes, when my grandmother was ill and lived with us, I went to her two or three times a day to feed her and stayed with her to play for an hour, because she was really very sad and asked for communication. Together with our cat, they set traps for those cats who came to our plot - Chipka slowly stepped on the uninvited guest, and Matvey the cat quietly walked through the bushes and attacked from behind.

Thank you for sharing your story. I also have problems with my back, several hernias (I had to work with heavy equipment in attics), I will be more careful. Now I have to do sports, do yoga and stretching, walk 20 km on weekends to work normally, sitting for 8-10 hours. I'm sure the Devils will please us more than once.

That’s horrible all around. Had to be a traumatizing experience.

 

[Maine Fan]

Don't be so strict. Originally it was their dogs. And yes, they treated dogs, as I understood, like we treated chickens. But someone treats chickens differently. Something will seem terrible for them, which seems normal for a European or an American.
They were generally nice people, one of them bought me my first sniсkers, they joked and laughed, loved their children, worked and also dreamed of a better life than living in a house with a toilet in the yard and without a shower.

I got it, thanks. I screwed up on the Ownership, they ate their own dog. I just can't come to grips with this. I would still kill who ever kill and ate my dog unless they were signs of staving, that's a fact. We don't raise dogs to eat, I hope. I realize that there are places that this is a practice.

Where did this take place?

When you say "they were generally nice people" do I assume you are speaking about Vietnamese people? If true, I wasn't putting them down. I reacted to eating a dog. A dog is special to me, it is personal, I guess.

 

[Maine Fan]

Don't be so strict. Originally it was their dogs. And yes, they treated dogs, as I understood, like we treated chickens. But someone treats chickens differently. Something will seem terrible for them, which seems normal for a European or an American.
They were generally nice people, one of them bought me my first sniсkers, they joked and laughed, loved their children, worked, and also dreamed of a better life than living in a house with a toilet in the yard and without a shower.

I got it, thanks. I screwed up on the Ownership, they ate their dog. I just can't come to grips with this. I would still kill whoever kill and ate my dog unless they were signs of staving, that's a fact. We don't raise dogs to eat, I hope. I realize that there are places where this is a practice.

Where did this take place?

When you say "they were generally nice people" do I assume you are speaking about Vietnamese people?

Dogs are very special to me. Cats are the same. I understand farm life, raising animals to sell for food.

Thanks for correcting me regarding your story.

What did you do for work in an attic? Backs are very serious injuries, most people don't appreciate them until they have a back problem. My spine stimulator helps with some pain generated from my back, like better than 50% relief. Example: I could not stand straight unassisted for more than 2 minutes without severe low back pain. With the stimulator, I can stand for 5 minutes. This is while taking every 6 hours, every day, Percocet 10 MG, Gabapentin 400 MG, and CBD 30 MG, along with a daily 0.4 MG steroid, twice a day morphine 10 MG.

Nice taking with you, thank you.

Lets Go Devils

 

[PKs Broken Stick]

Usually the rookies report mid September and the veterans 1 week after

Dang, so still like another month of nothing

 

[Nubmer6]

Dang, so still like another month of nothing

Well the Prospects Challenge starts on the 15th, so I presume the rookies report a day or two earlier for physicals and such. Although I think there's an earliest date they can start specified by the NHLPA, and the 15th may be it.

You should at least start seeing articles with interviews a few days before, even if camp isn't officially open.

 

[Zippy316]

I see Montreal media is still beating a dead horse with Anderson to NJ, now even speculating Holtz could be involved.

I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if Fitz checked in, but there is no way he’s adding anything of value to take that contract on.

 

[Hisch13r]

I see Montreal media is still beating a dead horse with Anderson to NJ, now even speculating Holtz could be involved.

I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if Fitz checked in, but there is no way he’s adding anything of value to take that contract on.

lol They’re never going to let that dream die

 

[Lou is God]

I see Montreal media is still beating a dead horse with Anderson to NJ, now even speculating Holtz could be involved.

I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if Fitz checked in, but there is no way he’s adding anything of value to take that contract on.

Where you seeing this? Nothing really on Twitter.

 

[Hisch13r]

Where you seeing this? Nothing really on Twitter.

I know the New Jersey Devils showed interest in him last season, and I don’t know if that’s changed with the acquisition of Timo Meier, but they can serve as an example of how an Anderson trade to a contender could work. The Devils have been slowly giving more and more to Alexander Holtz – the No. 7 pick in the 2020 draft – but unless he takes a big leap this season, the Devils might come to the conclusion he doesn’t quite fit their window, which is right now. If the Canadiens could leverage Anderson as a win-now proposition into a young player with growth potential, they will surely do it. It might not be Holtz, but it would likely take someone like him to convince the Canadiens to move Anderson because I don’t think he is viewed as someone they absolutely have to trade.

I peeked over into the Habs thread on Anderson and one person somehow took this as we offered up Holtz which isn’t what Basu said at all

Ask Arpon: What’s the Canadiens’ long-term plan, how do they compete in the Atlantic?

Part two of the Ask Arpon mailbag delves into some existential questions for the Canadiens and how they navigate their way to contention.

theathletic.com

 

[Call Me Al]

we got meier and toffoli there is no need for josh anderson and even less need for that contract

 

[Dialamo]

just me but players traded at the deadline or even in year away from a cup winning team should get some type of recognition

I agree. I remember when the Pens won in 09, Shero invited a player they traded away at the deadline to the White House cup celebration (I can't remember who it was at the moment). I always thought that was classy.

EDIT: I believe it was Ryan Whitney, who was a big part of their defense during their finals loss the year before.

 

[Devils731]

I peeked over into the Habs thread on Anderson and one person somehow took this as we offered up Holtz which isn’t what Basu said at all

Ask Arpon: What’s the Canadiens’ long-term plan, how do they compete in the Atlantic?

Part two of the Ask Arpon mailbag delves into some existential questions for the Canadiens and how they navigate their way to contention.

theathletic.com

Don’t worry, Facebook fed me a Habs thread on this rumor and Habs fans were fairly united in feeling Anderson is way too good to trade; at least one talked about not wanting to lose such a good contract. Not kidding.

 

[Saugus]

Nice to see that some things never change, and that some non-trivial portion of the Habs fan base is as delusional as ever.

 

[MasterofGrond]

no chance the devils pick up Anderson, even at 50% retained, I'm not sure he has a ton of value to an analytically inclined organization (and the Devils seem very analytical). When you also factor in the 4 remaining contract years AND the Habs retaining on two contracts already for 2023, it's just a non-starter from both sides.

 

[Bleedred]

I wish Josh Anderson would just retire or pull a Kovalchuk and go play overseas, so I never have to hear him suggested as someone we should acquire ever again.

 

[Guttersniped]

no chance the devils pick up Anderson, even at 50% retained, I'm not sure he has a ton of value to an analytically inclined organization (and the Devils seem very analytical). When you also factor in the 4 remaining contract years AND the Habs retaining on two contracts already for 2023, it's just a non-starter from both sides.

This seems like it isn’t a rumor and they’re just going on the Athletic mailbag musing.

We don’t have 5.5m in cap space, or any realistic cap dumps, and the Habs aren’t retaining money on a contract that ends after 2026-27.

 

[TBF1972]

I see Montreal media is still beating a dead horse with Anderson to NJ, now even speculating Holtz could be involved.

I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if Fitz checked in, but there is no way he’s adding anything of value to take that contract on.

montreal media probably does research on hfboard for click bait material.

in my head i created a ranking of worst fan bases and to my own surprise tml fans are only ranked fourth. the multiple 1st round outs was probably a good medicine to tone them down.

the #1 spot is all time reserved for the *&?! rangers fans. some of it is the rivalary and that we hate each other. but there are really some other level stupid posters like bern, lays the crypto dude, the buchnevich troll and a few others. but there are also a few that i really like and value their opinions.

the #2 and #3 is fluctuating between montreal and vancouver depending on the latest trade proposal. vancouver has hardly any non-homer fans and the ones who probably are somewhat reasonable hide it behind sarcastic homer takes (m2beezy).

montreal fans are just impossible to deal with. as the most successful nhl franchise you would expect them to be kind of knowledgeable and they would understand that their team is bad because their players aren't very good. but any player who sees ice time on their first line is a star. every prospect would go in the first round in a redraft and has huge trade value. every veteran is worth a 1st plus in a trade. they even think their coaches and management is great. they are certain they will turn their team around in the next 2 years and be a top contender within 5 years. in 5 years they will roll their expectation to the next 5 years.

 

[TBF1972]

I wish Josh Anderson would just retire or pull a Kovalchuk and go play overseas, so I never have to hear him suggested as someone we should acquire ever again.

there was once a proposal from a montreal fan for holtz on the mainboard shortly after the draft.

armia
a d prospect (i think it was harris) and
2nd rd pick

for

holtz and
mercer

anderson seems like a generous offer in comparison


edit: i searched for the proposal and my memory is lacking

Proposal: - NJ & MTL

NJ needs to fix things quickly . Habs could offer help right now for future Habs : Chariot + Drouin + Armia + Ylonen for NJ Holtz + Mercer

forums.hfboards.com

NJ needs to fix things quickly .
Habs could offer help right now for future

Habs : Chariot + Drouin + Armia + Ylonen
for
NJ Holtz + Mercer

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

We let Miles Wood walk. If we were interested in a guy that skated fast in a straight line and scores the occasional goal, we would’ve kept him. Josh Anderson with double retention isn’t even appealing.

 

[Andre Palot]

We let Miles Wood walk. If we were interested in a guy that skated fast in a straight line and scores the occasional goal, we would’ve kept him. Josh Anderson with double retention isn’t even appealing.

Let him walk, dodged a bullet... tomato, tomatoe

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I wouldn't take Josh Anderson at 50% for free.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]