Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - 2023 offseason part II

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I agree, thought that was cool info, so thought I’d share. I personally don’t mind his content, but don’t want to upset anyone here lol.

Glad to see Jesper takes his mental health seriously. That stuff’s important!


Maybe it’s more of an off-season habit for him, a reset before the season, talking about his goals, setting objectives, putting things in perspective etc. Either way, I respect it. It certainly appears like it’s working for him. I’m pretty sure many players do this, more than we think at least.

I remember it being a story during his rookie season break out.

I heard Baseball is 90% mental. I think Hockey is even higher.

Rereading everything, I think my post was a little off base. I think this guy is just more of a mental performance coach than a therapist.

I have no problem with it, but I also don’t think I’d consider it in the mental health arena any more than a guy that’s helping you improve your slapshot is improving your physical health.
 
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Rereading everything, I think my post was a little off base. I think this guy is just more of a mental performance coach than a therapist.

I have no problem with it, but I also don’t think I’d consider it in the mental health arena any more than a guy that’s helping you improve your slapshot is improving your physical health.
Semantics I think.

And definitely no problem with it. I don't think everyone needs it, but if you do, or even it's merely slightly helpful, why wouldn't you?
 
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I always like hearing when former players end up settling in NJ when all is said and done.

Sykora makes a lot of sense considering how long he played here.

The most random of all the ones I know of is Henrik Tallinder haha
Lovejoy was speaking well of NJ towards the end there, not sure if he stayed in state or not.
 
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Rereading everything, I think my post was a little off base. I think this guy is just more of a mental performance coach than a therapist.

I have no problem with it, but I also don’t think I’d consider it in the mental health arena any more than a guy that’s helping you improve your slapshot is improving your physical health.
Im pretty sure Bratt had credited the therapist/performace coach for his rise out of nowhere.

Id advocate bringing Holtz in too.
 

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Semantics I think.

And definitely no problem with it. I don't think everyone needs it, but if you do, or even it's merely slightly helpful, why wouldn't you?
I think there’s a real and important difference between seeing a therapist because of a clinical condition and seeing a mental performance coach because you think you can tack on a few more points in a season.

Im pretty sure Bratt had credited the therapist/performace coach for his rise out of nowhere.

Id advocate bringing Holtz in too.

I would put it in the same quackery bin as cupping and drinking cherry juice (or pickle brine!) and all the other things that athletes do to try to gain an edge.

It surely could have helped, even if only by placebo effect, but I doubt there’s much scientific evidence for it.

The last thing I want for Holtz is for him to start doubting his mental state.
 

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I think there’s a real and important difference between seeing a therapist because of a clinical condition and seeing a mental performance coach because you think you can tack on a few more points in a season.



I would put it in the same quackery bin as cupping and drinking cherry juice (or pickle brine!) and all the other things that athletes do to try to gain an edge.

It surely could have helped, even if only by placebo effect, but I doubt there’s much scientific evidence for it.

The last thing I want for Holtz is for him to start doubting his mental state.

you're doubting that there is evidence for hiring a sports psychologist type?

Yeah, lets just say I disagree.
 

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I think there’s a real and important difference between seeing a therapist because of a clinical condition and seeing a mental performance coach because you think you can tack on a few more points in a season.



I would put it in the same quackery bin as cupping and drinking cherry juice (or pickle brine!) and all the other things that athletes do to try to gain an edge.

It surely could have helped, even if only by placebo effect, but I doubt there’s much scientific evidence for it.

The last thing I want for Holtz is for him to start doubting his mental state.
The specialist wouldn't make Holtz "doubt his mental state"...
 

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I think there’s a real and important difference between seeing a therapist because of a clinical condition and seeing a mental performance coach because you think you can tack on a few more points in a season.



I would put it in the same quackery bin as cupping and drinking cherry juice (or pickle brine!) and all the other things that athletes do to try to gain an edge.

It surely could have helped, even if only by placebo effect, but I doubt there’s much scientific evidence for it.

The last thing I want for Holtz is for him to start doubting his mental state.
As this is a mental coach, I think this is much more akin to seeing a therapist then drinking cherry juice.
 
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as i've mentioned before on more than one occasion over the years, do not underestimate the importance of the mental part of sport. from personal experience having played left defence in soccer from the age of 5 to 40 (with many of those at a competitive level) there were times when confidence in my game could be a bit down....and it can be a tough hole to dig out of, it can compound on the psyche. second-guessing decisions on tackles, worried about 'getting burned' if timed wrong, playing too far off the man...maybe a lingering injury is in the back of the mind........it is not a fun space to be in and can drag you right the f*** down.

slumps happen but i was self aware enough during these times and worked on bringing my self into better headspace and just believing that my game was capable of being better... back to where i was at my best

..and when i came out of a funk? man, i felt and played like a destroyer. just had to believe be confident again. and then it's like breathing....you just 'play your game' without thinking.

i can imagine the mental work it takes to be a pro.

nothing wrong with a 'head coach' ....shit, even though marty and the team had a goalie coach during his time he said that the relationship was someone he could bounce thoughts back and forth with and help keep him in a good state of mind as opposed to technical side of goaltending
 
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